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gafftop 01-05-2013 09:28 AM

Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Don't know how to do poll where you can rank from first to last but would be curious where you think MS ranks is relation to the other QBs in the playoffs both AFC and NFC. Sorry if this has already been done.
Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
Luck
Flacco
Dalton
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Kaepernick
Ponder

Sorry I should start
9 or 10 presently
11 or 12 in future
Just my opinion

Dutchrudder 01-05-2013 09:44 AM

7 or 8, ahead of Kaep, Dalton, Luck, Ponder and Wilson.

76Texan 01-05-2013 10:08 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Numero Uno :kitten::spit:

Hervoyel 01-05-2013 10:24 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gafftop (Post 2096898)
Don't know how to do poll where you can rank from first to last but would be curious where you think MS ranks is relation to the other QBs in the playoffs both AFC and NFC. Sorry if this has already been done.
Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
Luck
Flacco
Dalton
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Kaepernick
Ponder

Sorry I should start
9 or 10 presently
11 or 12 in future
Just my opinion

Basically on that list the only guys I'd rather have less than Matt Schaub leading my team are Flacco and Ponder. Lot of youngsters in there but at least they have upside.

toxictrix 01-05-2013 10:37 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
For just these playoffs here is the order I would like. This is not taking into account future development or anything. Just these next few weeks. Of course most of these guys are a huge unknown in the post season so a lot of it is just guessing.

Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Flacco
Luck
Dalton
Kaep
Ponder

Maybe a bit of homerism but whatever. Did this fairly quickly without looking up stats and stuff.

dream_team 01-05-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxictrix (Post 2096934)
For just these playoffs here is the order I would like. This is not taking into account future development or anything. Just these next few weeks. Of course most of these guys are a huge unknown in the post season so a lot of it is just guessing.

Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Flacco
Luck
Dalton
Kaep
Ponder

Maybe a bit of homerism but whatever. Did this fairly quickly without looking up stats and stuff.

Good list, but I'd swap Schaub & Wilson. Wilson is too short to be effective in our offense I think.

coon 01-05-2013 10:41 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
1.Brady
2.Rodgers
3.Manning
4.Wilson
5.Ryan
6.RG3
7.Luck
8.Schaub
9.Dalton
10.Flacco
11.Kaepernick
12.Ponder
Let's hope he proves us wrong

76Texan 01-05-2013 10:46 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
If we're talking about QB that can run our system then you have to put Rodgers at the top of the list and move Manning and Brady down.

DX-TEX 01-05-2013 10:57 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2096909)
Numero Uno :kitten::spit:

Crack kills but I forgive you.

TEXANRED 01-05-2013 11:17 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
This is my list in order in terms of playoff QB's:

The Big Boys:
Brady
Manning
Rodgers

Brady 5 Superbowl's, Manning 2 Superbowl's, Rodgers 1 Superbowl.

The Vets:
Flacco
Dalton
Ryan

Flacco has at least won a playoff game and Dalton didn't get blanked unlike Ryan. Ryan is a horrible playoff QB to this point.

The Rookies:
RGIII
Wilson
Kaepernick
Luck
Ponder
Schaub

This group rounds out the rookie playoff QB. I base this list on athleticism, leadership, and good old fashioned guts and courage.

TejasTom 01-05-2013 11:19 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
I don't know how anyone can answer this before the game....

Xcellerator 01-05-2013 11:26 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
In the bottom three. Even Flacco over Schaub since he's had some playoff experience.

gafftop 01-05-2013 11:44 AM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TejasTom (Post 2096967)
I don't know how anyone can answer this before the game....

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Texans' Offense and Schaub, Poor Match
I heard on the radio MS can be successful only if all the planets align. Well the planets aren't aligned in the Texans offense. Let's look more closely. Even when 110% MS is not the most mobile QB. MS is not the most durable QB. MS not great arm stength. The Texans' line is not the most dominant line. The lack of mobility (especially last week against the Jets, ankle) of MS means that he can't buy any time and make something happen unlike some other QB's that are able to scramble and allow the receivers to create. Therefore we can't utilize AJ physical talents on a busted play. This is even made worse because MS can't affford to take a hit, unlike some QB's that can stay in the pocket until the last second and let the play develope. If we had a QB that could take a hit we would gain some time, or if we had a QB that could scramble and buy some time we could maybe make some conpletions and maybe come up with the big play. We have the receivers to do this but due to the above factors we were unable to do this last week against the Jets. That is why the offense was so pitiful. I understand the PROBLEM is our offensive line. But our offensive line may be just what is was last week for the entire season. The more i write the more depressed I become. The defense only needs to shut down AJ with double coverage and get after MS and we have last week's outcome again this week. I guess what I am getting at is if MS is not healthy and mobile and Kubiak is determined to play MS no matter what like last week, we will have a repeat of last week. I was a Kubiak fan until last week. His inability to get the team up and prepared along with the POOR judgement in playing MS really makes me wonder. I guess getting back to the title, with our Oline we would be better off with a very mobile QB or a QB that can take a hit every once in a while. We have neither in MS. Would appreciate comment that give me some hope. thanks

This Post was written in 2009

Nothing is going to change. I think Matt is about as mobile now as he was then when he was hurt and he isn't getting any younger. I still think we learn after the season that he has been hurt or at least I am hoping so because at lease we may see a better MS next year. But even then Matt is Matt.

kiwitexansfan 01-05-2013 12:21 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toxictrix (Post 2096934)
For just these playoffs here is the order I would like. This is not taking into account future development or anything. Just these next few weeks. Of course most of these guys are a huge unknown in the post season so a lot of it is just guessing.

Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Flacco
Luck
Dalton
Kaep
Ponder

Maybe a bit of homerism but whatever. Did this fairly quickly without looking up stats and stuff.

This seems about right to me, especially if you are talking for this playoffs and not as a future QB.

gafftop 01-05-2013 12:36 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan (Post 2096997)
This seems about right to me, especially if you are talking for this playoffs and not as a future QB.

Talking about
(1) Now Assume they know the system and have been the QB for us all year.
(2) Future

bckey 01-05-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gafftop (Post 2096898)
Don't know how to do poll where you can rank from first to last but would be curious where you think MS ranks is relation to the other QBs in the playoffs both AFC and NFC. Sorry if this has already been done.
Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
Luck
Flacco
Dalton
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Kaepernick
Ponder

Sorry I should start
9 or 10 presently
11 or 12 in future
Just my opinion

I would move kaep over MS and Flacco below him

SCOTTexans 01-05-2013 12:43 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
Go look at the Schaub hater thread, theres about 5 people that rate schaub bottom 3 in the league....:rake:


For this list

For Sure

1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Rodgers

Then There's

4) Ryan - His good games he looks like a legit elite QB
5) RGIII - Looks hurt still but has all the talent
6) Schaub
7) Flacco - Up this high for his deep threat ability and playoff experience
8) Wilson - look what hes doing without a Elite WR
9) Luck - Down do to his turnovers
10) Dalton - I really havent been paying any attention to him, so not sure what to expect..
11) Kaep - Rookie that is hit or miss in games
12) Ponder - Check down king from what i have seen

This is overall QB and not if we had them in our system

thunderkyss 01-05-2013 12:51 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
In my mind, there is no difference once you get to the top 5 teams. I still have the Texans as one of the top 5 teams in the league, even though they haven't played like it recently.

If the Texans can get back to the team they were at the beginning of the season (& that team had it's faults) then there isn't a QB that's better than Matt Schaub. Not Brady, not Rogers.

I know it's not fair to the Bradies & the Rogers of the league, but when we get to the play-offs, it's a team game. We saw the New York Giants run roughshod all over the Packers & Saints last year, even though we all know Eli is not half the QB Rogers or Brees is. We've seen Flacco & Sanchez roar to the AFC Championship game even though they can't hold Tom Brady, or Peyton Manning's for that matter, jock strap.

Football, especially in the NFL, is a team game. & nobody got it as good as we do.

Goodwrench3 01-05-2013 12:53 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Rodgers
4) Wilson
5) RGIII
6) Schaub
7) Ryan
8) Kaepernick
9) Luck
10) Flacco
11) Dalton
12) Ponder

Jules Winnfield 01-05-2013 01:11 PM

Re: Where does Matt rank with QBs in playoffs
 
jaws has him 9th

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/pos...inth-among-qbs


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