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beerlover 01-01-2013 09:53 AM

Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 

Early draft order set. Added top 20 picks as no frills exercise just to kinda of map out who should be left?

1. Kansas City Chiefs, Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville Jaguars, Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
3. Oakland Raiders, Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
4. Philadelphia Eagles, Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
5. Detroit Lions, Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
6. Cleveland Browns, Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
7. Arizona Cardinals, Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California
8. Buffalo Bills, Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
9. New York Jets, Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
10. Tennessee Titans, Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
11. San Diego Chargers, Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
12. Miami Dolphins, Keenan Allen, WR, California
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
14. Carolina Panthers, Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
15. New Orleans Saints, Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
16. St. Louis Rams, Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
17. Pittsburgh Steelers, Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
18. Dallas Cowboys, Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
19. New York Giants, Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
20. Chicago Bears, John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
21. TBD
22. TBD
23. TBD
24. TBD
25. TBD
26. TBD
27. TBD
28. TBD
29. TBD
30. TBD
31. TBD
32. TBD

beerlover 01-01-2013 10:26 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
12 slots left one of which will be the Texans pick. Lets just look @ who will be available? will break it down by position so easier for your viewing pleasure. First 20 prospects are locks to be first round selections, regardless which team takes who & where. Let me know what you guys think? Does breaking it down this way make it easier?

21-32:

WR - Robert Woods, Terrance Williams,
OC - Barrett Jones
OG - Jonathan Cooper
DE/OLB - Ezekiel Ansah, Dion Jordan, Alex Okafor
DT - Jesse Williams,
ILB - Alec Ogletree
CB - Johnathan Banks, Xavier Rhodes
SS - Matt Elam

Borderline/Early 2nd:

QB - Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon
WR - Tavon Austin,Cordarrelle Patterson
OT - DJ Flucker
DE/OLB - Sam Montgomery, Chase Thomas, Kyle Van Noy
DT - Kawaan Short, Sharrif Floyd
CB - David Amerson,
SS - Kenny Vaccaro
FS - Eric Reed, Phillip Thomas

beerlover 01-01-2013 11:36 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Just to point out obvious, there are three groups that really stand out where Texans are projected to pick. DE/OLB with 6, WR with 5 & Saftey 4. Being so tightly bunched, free agency will have a lot to say about who they draft & could WR actually be BPA for a change?

Dutchrudder 01-02-2013 01:15 AM

Is Jadevon Clowney not entering the draft? He looks like a top 5 pick to me.

ArlingtonTexan 01-02-2013 01:18 AM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2094639)
Is Jadevon Clowney not entering the draft? He looks like a top 5 pick to me.

True sophomore...gotta wait a year for him.

Texas T 01-02-2013 12:19 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2094569)
12 slots left one of which will be the Texans pick. Lets just look @ who will be available? will break it down by position so easier for your viewing pleasure. First 20 prospects are locks to be first round selections, regardless which team takes who & where. Let me know what you guys think? Does breaking it down this way make it easier?

21-32:

WR - Robert Woods, Terrance Williams,
OC - Barrett Jones
OG - Jonathan Cooper
DE/OLB - Ezekiel Ansah, Dion Jordan, Alex Okafor
DT - Jesse Williams,
ILB - Alec Ogletree
CB - Johnathan Banks, Xavier Rhodes
SS - Matt Elam

Borderline/Early 2nd:

QB - Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon
WR - Tavon Austin,Cordarrelle Patterson
OT - DJ Flucker
DE/OLB - Sam Montgomery, Chase Thomas, Kyle Van Noy
DT - Kawaan Short, Sharrif Floyd
CB - David Amerson,
SS - Kenny Vaccaro
FS - Eric Reed, Phillip Thomas

You have Wilson going to the Jets in the first.

badboy 01-02-2013 01:15 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2094569)
12 slots left one of which will be the Texans pick. Lets just look @ who will be available? will break it down by position so easier for your viewing pleasure. First 20 prospects are locks to be first round selections, regardless which team takes who & where. Let me know what you guys think? Does breaking it down this way make it easier?

21-32:

WR - Robert Woods, Terrance Williams,
OC - Barrett Jones
OG - Jonathan Cooper
DE/OLB - Ezekiel Ansah, Dion Jordan, Alex Okafor
DT - Jesse Williams,
ILB - Alec Ogletree
CB - Johnathan Banks, Xavier Rhodes
SS - Matt Elam

Borderline/Early 2nd:

QB - Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon
WR - Tavon Austin,Cordarrelle Patterson
OT - DJ Flucker
DE/OLB - Sam Montgomery, Chase Thomas, Kyle Van Noy
DT - Kawaan Short, Sharrif Floyd
CB - David Amerson,
SS - Kenny Vaccaro
FS - Eric Reed, Phillip Thomas

FYI, Van Noy returning to school per this link:http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-return-senior


As always great work and insight. I want to review when possible more deeply.

beerlover 02-01-2013 12:28 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
1. Kansas City Chiefs, Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
2. Jacksonville Jaguars, Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
3. Oakland Raiders, Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
4. Philadelphia Eagles, Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
5. Detroit Lions, Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
6. Cleveland Browns, Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
7. Arizona Cardinals, Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California
8. Buffalo Bills, Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
9. New York Jets, Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
10. Tennessee Titans, Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
11. San Diego Chargers, Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
12. Miami Dolphins, Keenan Allen, WR, California
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
14. Carolina Panthers, Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
15. New Orleans Saints, Johnathan Banks, CB, Mississippi St.
16. St. Louis Rams, DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
17. Pittsburgh Steelers, Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
18. Dallas Cowboys, Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
19. New York Giants, Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
20. Chicago Bears, Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue
21. Cincinnati Bengals, Dion Jordan, DE/OLB Oregon
22. St. Louis (from Washington) Matt Elam, SS, Florida
23. Minnesota, Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
24. Indianapolis , Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
25. Seattle, Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
26. Green Bay, Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
27. Houston, Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
28. Denver, Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
29. New England, Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
30. Atlanta, Ezekiel Ansah, DE, Brigham Young
31. Baltimore, Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
32. San Francisco, Barrett Jones, C/G, Alabama

beerlover 02-01-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
curious what people think about this early first round projection. fairly quick attempt, combination of need & bpa. haven't really formulated a concrete list of best player available yet, that will come shortly after combine through pro days. sorry about Minter pick, that just kinda looks how it falls this point. there are also some pretty good prospects not listed who could sneak in there. overall with underclassman included this is a pretty good draft crop, a lot of teams should really help themselves :tiphat:

Dutchrudder 02-01-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
I really hope Damontre Moore doesn't go to the Lions. I want to be able to root for Aggies after they graduate, but many sites have him slotted in there at #5 overall. I really don't like the players on that team, so I could never root for him :(

As for the draft, I like a lot of the picks and the way they fall. I like Jones for the Browns, they need a lot of pass rush help and they are switching to a 3-4. I can see Jones as an OLB pass rusher, much like Von Miller.

Mingo to the Giants is sick. With Umenyiora being a free agent, he would be an awesome replacement.

Minter to the Texans seems to be the current consensus. I personally think we will go WR or O-line with our first pick. I think Kubiak is gonna make a lot of the picks this year to fix the offense.

greekdbag 02-01-2013 03:36 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2119258)
curious what people think about this early first round projection. fairly quick attempt, combination of need & bpa. haven't really formulated a concrete list of best player available yet, that will come shortly after combine through pro days. sorry about Minter pick, that just kinda looks how it falls this point. there are also some pretty good prospects not listed who could sneak in there. overall with underclassman included this is a pretty good draft crop, a lot of teams should really help themselves :tiphat:

I think Lewan decided to go back to school. Also, I think Ansah and Floyd will go higher.

steelbtexan 02-01-2013 03:54 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greekdbag (Post 2119302)
I think Lewan decided to go back to school. Also, I think Ansah and Floyd will go higher.

Yep

I think that if he's still there, (Which I've got my doubts) Fisher to the Cards at 7. I dont see Barkley going that high.

Oakland could trade back into the bottom third of the 1st rd and take Barkley though. I could see #3 Joeckel and Barkley to Oakland after a trade in the 27-32 range.

In fact if Oakland wanted to trade their 2nd and 4th rd picks to the Texans at 27, I would be on board with that.

mussop 02-01-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2119315)
Yep

I think that if he's still there, (Which I've got my doubts) Fisher to the Cards at 7. I dont see Barkley going that high.

Oakland could trade back into the bottom third of the 1st rd and take Barkley though. I could see #3 Joeckel and Barkley to Oakland after a trade in the 27-32 range.

In fact if Oakland wanted to trade their 2nd and 4th rd picks to the Texans at 27, I would be on board with that.

I think we are sitting at a good spot for teams that want to move up and grab a QB. There is only a few players that I would turn an offer like that down for.

beerlover 02-02-2013 03:00 AM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greekdbag (Post 2119302)
I think Lewan decided to go back to school. Also, I think Ansah and Floyd will go higher.

no matter I forgot to change tackles from Lewan to Fisher another franchise LT.

beerlover 02-02-2013 03:03 AM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2119315)
Yep

I think that if he's still there, (Which I've got my doubts) Fisher to the Cards at 7. I dont see Barkley going that high.

Oakland could trade back into the bottom third of the 1st rd and take Barkley though. I could see #3 Joeckel and Barkley to Oakland after a trade in the 27-32 range.

In fact if Oakland wanted to trade their 2nd and 4th rd picks to the Texans at 27, I would be on board with that.

I think Barkley will be a better pro than Sanchez, Leinart or Geno Smith. His draft stock will rise, just how much is anyone's guess?

beerlover 02-04-2013 11:06 AM

Re: Updated Post Superbowl 2013 NFL Mock
 
1. Kansas City Chiefs, Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
2. Jacksonville Jaguars, Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
3. Oakland Raiders, Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
4. Philadelphia Eagles, Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
5. Detroit Lions, Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
6. Cleveland Browns, Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
7. Arizona Cardinals, Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California
8. Buffalo Bills, Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
9. New York Jets, Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
10. Tennessee Titans, Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
11. San Diego Chargers, Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
12. Miami Dolphins, Keenan Allen, WR, California
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
14. Carolina Panthers, Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
15. New Orleans Saints, Johnathan Banks, CB, Mississippi St.
16. St. Louis Rams, DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
17. Pittsburgh Steelers, Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
18. Dallas Cowboys, Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
19. New York Giants, Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
20. Chicago Bears, Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue
21. Cincinnati Bengals, Dion Jordan, DE/OLB Oregon
22. St. Louis (from Washington) Matt Elam, SS, Florida
23. Minnesota, Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
24. Indianapolis , Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
25. Seattle, Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
26. Green Bay, Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
27. Houston, Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
28. Denver, Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
29. New England, Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
30. Atlanta, Ezekiel Ansah, DE, Brigham Young
31. San Francisco, Barrett Jones, C/G, Alabama
32. Baltimore, Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

76Texan 02-04-2013 05:42 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
Dang, BL; I like Fisher a lot... But is he that good to play for two teams each week?:barman:

Rey 02-04-2013 05:53 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
I seriously can't see Hopkins and Allen being the only two WR's drafted in the first round. If they are then my goodness, we would have a feast to fill our bellies in round 2.

76Texan 02-04-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
I've been trying, but I don't see Vaccaro in the first round; sorry guys.
But maybe I'm wrong?!?

Rey 02-04-2013 06:39 PM

Re: Too Early 2013 NFL Draft Order & Mock
 
I don't get the vaccaro hype at all. There ate lower rated safeties that look much better to me. IMO swearinger is an all around better player than vaccaro.


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