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srrono 12-31-2012 02:01 PM

Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Obviously HOU is not going to sign Tate to a Big contract. What is Tate's trade value? NYJ need RB help and Tate could be a ground&pound back.

Doesn't look like a strong draft for RB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...nkings/2013/RB

2013 free agent RB's
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=RB&y=2013

jaayteetx 12-31-2012 02:06 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
H E double hockey sticks no. They be lucky to get a third.

rmartin65 12-31-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
I would be very surprised. We could probably use him to trade up in the first, but I dont know if he would get us a first on his own. But getting a 2nd or two is more likely IMO.

klockWork 12-31-2012 02:39 PM

Personally I think he is worth a 1st. He's that good. I'll go as far as calling him just as good if not better than Foster. He's more explosive and can run through arm tackle better than Foster. He's also more sure footed. You don't see him slip on cuts like you see in Foster. He's also underrated in the passing game. He was on pace to a 1500+ yds season and 2nd in yds per carries while Foster was out earlier last year.

But his injuries and limited carries this season hurt his stock value severely. If we lose him and he starts full time for another team, expect Tate to have a breakout year.

Playoffs 12-31-2012 03:02 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
We'll get a 1st for Tate right after we get those 2 2nd round picks for Schaub. :D

badboy 12-31-2012 03:08 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by srrono (Post 2093848)
Obviously HOU is not going to sign Tate to a Big contract. What is Tate's trade value? NYJ need RB help and Tate could be a ground&pound back.

Doesn't look like a strong draft for RB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...nkings/2013/RB

2013 free agent RB's
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=RB&y=2013

Check out my "Trade with Miami" thread from a few days ago. My premise was based upon Tate finishing season and playoffs strong. Ain't happening. He got 2 attempts for 7 yards. Nothing to brag about.

Mr teX 12-31-2012 03:54 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Hell no...2 seasons where he wasn't even healthy.

Wolf6151 12-31-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaayteetx (Post 2093856)
h e double hockey sticks no. They be very lucky to get a third.

^^^^this^^^^

mussop 12-31-2012 05:26 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
At this point we are probably looking at a 4th round pick for Tate. Lack of production and missed games this year surely have lowered his value. It would be better to hold on to him IMO.

TimeKiller 12-31-2012 06:25 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Right now, maybe a 3rd or 4th would be a steal. His stock is lowwwww.

WolverineFan 12-31-2012 06:28 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
His talent warrants a high pick, but no team is going to trade that pick for a guy who can't stay healthy. We'll get a 3rd for him at best.

That said, we need to draft a RB this year so we can at least get something for Tate before he walks.

Texecutioner 12-31-2012 08:40 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by srrono (Post 2093848)
Obviously HOU is not going to sign Tate to a Big contract. What is Tate's trade value? NYJ need RB help and Tate could be a ground&pound back.

Doesn't look like a strong draft for RB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...nkings/2013/RB

2013 free agent RB's
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=RB&y=2013

Have you seen his numbers this season???

Why in the hell would any team give up a first round pick after the season he has had?? We'd be lucky to get a late 2nd.

Lucky 01-01-2013 02:01 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
At least this thread is good for a laugh. A 4th would be the max Tate would bring. Just keep him in as insurance. The Texans will have 11 draft picks in the April. That's plenty.

ATXtexanfan 01-01-2013 07:51 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2094368)
At least this thread is good for a laugh. A 4th would be the max Tate would bring. Just keep him in as insurance. The Texans will have 11 draft picks in the April. That's plenty.

11 picks? Really. How exciting.

Dutchrudder 01-01-2013 08:14 PM

I think he's worth a fifth.

badboy 01-01-2013 08:52 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2094519)
I think he's worth a fifth.

He is more valuable on our roster for one more year than a pick below third round imo.

powda 01-01-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Depends on the draft class and the free agent market. Supply and demand. All it takes is 1 team to love the guy...off the top of my head i'd wager a late 2nd round pick.

badboy 01-01-2013 09:25 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powda (Post 2094554)
Depends on the draft class and the free agent market. Supply and demand. All it takes is 1 team to love the guy...off the top of my head i'd wager a late 2nd round pick.

That is why I was hoping Tate would power out deep into the playoffs with great productivity ala 2011. In fact he was doing pretty well pre-hammy. 2 attempts do not look so good against Colts.

Wolf6151 01-01-2013 11:52 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powda (Post 2094554)
Depends on the draft class and the free agent market. Supply and demand. All it takes is 1 team to love the guy...off the top of my head i'd wager a late 2nd round pick.

I'd jump for joy if we got a late 2nd for Tate but it ain't happening. I think we'd be lucky to get a late 3rd right now and more likely a mid 4th.

IDEXAN 01-03-2013 01:08 PM

Re: Could HOU get a 1st for Tate?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2094635)
I'd jump for joy if we got a late 2nd for Tate but it ain't happening. I think we'd be lucky to get a late 3rd right now and more likely a mid 4th.

That's just about what I would evaluate Tate's market value at, and any thought of him being worth a first is not to be taken seriously and assigning a second-round value is semi-silly. Just remember, running backs are a dime a dozen.


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