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AndyWin 12-31-2012 12:21 AM

Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Let's be honest, this team MAY beat the Bengals but I'd bet my life's savings they won't beat Patriots IN New England AND Broncos IN Denver.

The worst part is that Kubiak and Schaub are both so safe, it's absolutely disgusting. The ONLY way I could maybe see possible dramatic changes would be if they lay an absolute egg next week and get booed out of Reliant in a losing effort.

Think about it, we have to go through all of this again next year. Schaub and Kubiak are not going to change... we'll be the above average but not great Texans for years to come.

Sigh

Premier 12-31-2012 12:25 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
pathetic performance. the opportunity to force brady and peyton to face each other in a division round was right there.. instead they lose and let both these teams get byes..

Steal Your Face 12-31-2012 12:31 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWin (Post 2093337)
Let's be honest, this team MAY beat the Bengals but I'd bet my life's savings they won't beat Patriots IN New England AND Broncos IN Denver.

The worst part is that Kubiak and Schaub are both so safe, it's absolutely disgusting. The ONLY way I could maybe see possible dramatic changes would be if they lay an absolute egg next week and get booed out of Reliant in a losing effort.

Think about it, we have to go through all of this again next year. Schaub and Kubiak are not going to change... we'll be the above average but not great Texans for years to come.

Sigh

Andy ... no need to sigh. You don't "have" to go through all this again next year. Sell your PSL ... you can easily get your money back, and then some. Find something else rewarding to do on Sundays.

AndyWin 12-31-2012 12:35 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Yup... and Kubiak and Schaub will both be here through next season and probably the next before wildcard and out just isn't enough. And by then we'll have a star RB and star WR with a lot of miles on them.

GOD

Corrosion 12-31-2012 12:38 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
I dont know why everyone is pointing at Kubiak .... he isnt the one dropping TD's , missing blocking assignments or throwing INT's ....

The coaches job is to put the players in a situation to suceed. He did that today for the most part. The players failed to execute on those crutial plays.

AJ drops a gimmie that Schaub actually put on target.

Schaub throws an INT .... when Casey was wide open.

Schaubs other INT was underthrown ....

Schaub missed several reads , at least one that should have gone for a TD.


The OL got their asses handed to them .... By the Dolts BACKUPs on the DL.

Kubiak is just the easy target ....

Why isnt anyone complaining about Wade's D giving up big plays or #80 droping the easiest TD he's had since pop warner ball.

DX-TEX 12-31-2012 12:40 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2093348)
I dont know why everyone is pointing at Kubiak .... he isnt the one dropping TD's , missing blocking assignments or throwing INT's ....

The coaches job is to put the players in a situation to suceed. He did that today for the most part. The players failed to execute on those crutial plays.

AJ drops a gimmie that Schaub actually put on target.

Schaub throws an INT .... when Casey was wide open.

Schaubs other INT was underthrown ....

Schaub missed several reads , at least one that should have gone for a TD.


The OL got their asses handed to them .... By the Dolts BACKUPs on the DL.

Kubiak is just the easy target ....

Why isnt anyone complaining about Wade's D giving up big plays or #80 droping the easiest TD he's had since pop warner ball.

Everything you listed is what a HEAD COACH gets paid to prepare his team to do. They havent been prepared in over a month.

Here is your soap...

AndyWin 12-31-2012 12:46 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Because Wade's D and #80 have performed quite well this season and are more responsible for many more of the Wins than Kubiak and Schaub in my opinion. The defensive forced turnovers and big plays are responsible for MANY of our wins... and Andre's monster games bailing Schaub out of trouble is worth a nod as well.

Kubiak should've been gone after the 6-10 season. Without Wade's defense that was brought in, this team is still that 6-10 team... and the only reason they could maybe finish better is because Titans and Jags haven't improved whatsoever in these past 2 years or so.

Schaub has been mediocre/slightly above average since the beginning. This guy is not the guy to take a team to the promiseland. If after this season we still can't at least get TO the AFC Championship, that's SIX YEARS this guy's had a chance to lead a pretty damn good team to the promiseland.

My rant is not about ONE game. It's about the entire damn season. Hell, the past 2-3 seasons even. Schaub and Kubiak are more to blame for this team's mediocrity than anyone else... especially not #80 or Wade.

dream_team 12-31-2012 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2093348)
I dont know why everyone is pointing at Kubiak .... he isnt the one dropping TD's , missing blocking assignments or throwing INT's ....

The coaches job is to put the players in a situation to suceed. He did that today for the most part. The players failed to execute on those crutial plays.

AJ drops a gimmie that Schaub actually put on target.

Schaub throws an INT .... when Casey was wide open.

Schaubs other INT was underthrown ....

Schaub missed several reads , at least one that should have gone for a TD.


The OL got their asses handed to them .... By the Dolts BACKUPs on the DL.

Kubiak is just the easy target ....

Why isnt anyone complaining about Wade's D giving up big plays or #80 droping the easiest TD he's had since pop warner ball.

Because with a lot of people in here, Kubiak will never win. He'll never get credit for wins, he'll get all the blame for losses.

In regards to just today's game, Wade deserves as much blame as Kubiak and Schaub.

AndyWin 12-31-2012 12:58 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
In regards to the last 3+ seasons, Kubiak and Schaub have more to do with our mediocrity than anyone else. :cutthroat:

Norg 12-31-2012 01:06 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
ehh depends on how they do in the playoffs dont be so sure there safe

Kubes could easily be replaced by wade phillips and and if scahub plays bad next year we will have Yates and maybe another VEt stop gap QB waiting

midway 12-31-2012 01:14 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2093366)
ehh depends on how they do in the playoffs dont be so sure there safe

Kubes could easily be replaced by wade phillips and and if scahub plays bad next year we will have Yates and maybe another VEt stop gap QB waiting

Man, we've got Uncle Bob in charge, Kubiak and Schaub are safer than Scrooge McDuck's lucky dime.

ObsiWan 12-31-2012 01:35 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2093348)
I dont know why everyone is pointing at Kubiak .... he isnt the one dropping TD's , missing blocking assignments or throwing INT's ....

The coaches job is to put the players in a situation to suceed. He did that today for the most part. The players failed to execute on those crutial plays.

AJ drops a gimmie that Schaub actually put on target.

Schaub throws an INT .... when Casey was wide open.

Schaubs other INT was underthrown ....

Schaub missed several reads , at least one that should have gone for a TD.


The OL got their asses handed to them .... By the Dolts BACKUPs on the DL.

Kubiak is just the easy target ....

Why isnt anyone complaining about Wade's D giving up big plays or #80 droping the easiest TD he's had since pop warner ball.

Because that's what non-thinking fans do. Its the path of least-thinking resistance. It would take too much effort to actually study the game and see who missed assignments and who failed to make the plays they get PAID to make.

How is it Kubiak's fault that A.J. dropped a ball In. HIS. HANDS...??
How is it Kubiak's fault that Schaub under threw the ball to a wide open Casey who had got beyond the defense??
How is it Kubiak's - or Wade's - fault that they got beat on a 3rd & 20-something?

To do that is to let the players completely off the hook. And, to me, that's just wrong. The players didn't do their damned jobs. Plain and simple.

ObsiWan 12-31-2012 01:39 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWin (Post 2093351)
Because Wade's D and #80 have performed quite well this season and are more responsible for many more of the Wins than Kubiak and Schaub in my opinion. The defensive forced turnovers and big plays are responsible for MANY of our wins... and Andre's monster games bailing Schaub out of trouble is worth a nod as well.

Kubiak should've been gone after the 6-10 season. Without Wade's defense that was brought in, this team is still that 6-10 team... and the only reason they could maybe finish better is because Titans and Jags haven't improved whatsoever in these past 2 years or so.

Schaub has been mediocre/slightly above average since the beginning. This guy is not the guy to take a team to the promiseland. If after this season we still can't at least get TO the AFC Championship, that's SIX YEARS this guy's had a chance to lead a pretty damn good team to the promiseland.

My rant is not about ONE game. It's about the entire damn season. Hell, the past 2-3 seasons even. Schaub and Kubiak are more to blame for this team's mediocrity than anyone else... especially not #80 or Wade.

The past two seasons our record is 22-10. That's worth a rant?


...rookies...

thunderkyss 12-31-2012 01:41 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWin (Post 2093337)
Let's be honest...

The worst part is that Kubiak and Schaub are both so safe, it's absolutely disgusting.

Think about it, we have to go through all of this again next year. Schaub and Kubiak are not going to change... we'll be the above average but not great Texans for years to come.

Sigh

I'm watching the game again. I don't see the ultra conservative play calling. Sure, there was the short dump off on third & long, but I'm seeing good production out of the run game & taking shots down the field, at least 4 already, 2 of which were intercepted.

Matt looks good... healthy at least. Again, I counted at least 4 times where he extended plays with his feet. 2 off them that resulted in first downs. One was a TE screen that went for 13 yards or so & the other was a pass to KDub for a 11 yards or so.

Offensively, we didn't do enough. Only scored 16 pts. Defensively, we couldn't get off the field, especially in the 4th, when it counted most.

Corrosion 12-31-2012 02:11 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2093378)
Because that's what non-thinking fans do. Its the path of least-thinking resistance. It would take too much effort to actually study the game and see who missed assignments and who failed to make the plays they get PAID to make.

How is it Kubiak's fault that A.J. dropped a ball In. HIS. HANDS...??
How is it Kubiak's fault that Schaub under threw the ball to a wide open Casey who had got beyond the defense??
How is it Kubiak's - or Wade's - fault that they got beat on a 3rd & 20-something?

To do that is to let the players completely off the hook. And, to me, that's just wrong. The players didn't do their damned jobs. Plain and simple.

Nuttin more to be said ..... /end thread. :swatter:

thunderkyss 12-31-2012 03:23 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2093378)
Because that's what non-thinking fans do. Its the path of least-thinking resistance. It would take too much effort to actually study the game and see who missed assignments and who failed to make the plays they get PAID to make.

How is it Kubiak's fault that A.J. dropped a ball In. HIS. HANDS...??
How is it Kubiak's fault that Schaub under threw the ball to a wide open Casey who had got beyond the defense??
How is it Kubiak's - or Wade's - fault that they got beat on a 3rd & 20-something?

To do that is to let the players completely off the hook. And, to me, that's just wrong. The players didn't do their damned jobs. Plain and simple.

The biggest tell, is that their biggest gripe about the game is that the team came out flat, uninspired, or unmotivated. Those are key words. It means, "I hate the head coach."

Most of these people have already stated they would be upset with Kubiak if we get to but lose the Super Bowl. I'm going to repeat that, because I like to hear myself talk. They said, even though our QB is crap, we have no talent on the OL, our defense is fool's gold, & Arian's a wimp. If we get to the Super Bowl it will be in spite of Kubiak. If we lose, it is because of Kubiak.

Goatcheese 12-31-2012 04:03 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2093348)
I dont know why everyone is pointing at Kubiak .... he isnt the one dropping TD's , missing blocking assignments or throwing INT's ....

The coaches job is to put the players in a situation to suceed. He did that today for the most part. The players failed to execute on those crutial plays.

AJ drops a gimmie that Schaub actually put on target.

Schaub throws an INT .... when Casey was wide open.

Schaubs other INT was underthrown ....

Schaub missed several reads , at least one that should have gone for a TD.


The OL got their asses handed to them .... By the Dolts BACKUPs on the DL.

Kubiak is just the easy target ....

Why isnt anyone complaining about Wade's D giving up big plays or #80 droping the easiest TD he's had since pop warner ball.

I agree for the most part, but the second INT was thrown where it needed to be. AJ and the CB were running together, and then something happened to break AJ's stride. The CB pulled away and had time to slow down and wait for the ball.

For some fans, if a play doesn't work that must mean it was a poor play call. Some even act like Kubiak specifically picks plays that he expects to fail and has a special part of his Denny's menu filled with bad plays that he can pick from just to annoy the fans.

:thisbig:

Rey 12-31-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiddler (Post 2093412)
The biggest tell, is that their biggest gripe about the game is that the team came out flat, uninspired, or unmotivated. Those are key words. It means, "I hate the head coach."

The team comes out flat all the time. When we come out and don't have setbacks early it's a pleasant surprise. Too often this team is unprepared.

Thing is, the blame is shared. Coaching, playing, player selection...all that crap should be questioned.

EllisUnit 12-31-2012 07:58 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWin (Post 2093337)
Let's be honest, this team MAY beat the Bengals but I'd bet my life's savings they won't beat Patriots IN New England AND Broncos IN Denver.

The worst part is that Kubiak and Schaub are both so safe, it's absolutely disgusting. The ONLY way I could maybe see possible dramatic changes would be if they lay an absolute egg next week and get booed out of Reliant in a losing effort.

Think about it, we have to go through all of this again next year. Schaub and Kubiak are not going to change... we'll be the above average but not great Texans for years to come.

Sigh


That's how people lose everything and wind up ODing in some back alley wearing a wig and a skirt with the nickname hot tomale......

As far as kubiak and schaub go, yes they are to safe, they have always been this way it just wasn't as obvious when we had a less talented team. Kubiak plays not to lose instead of playing to win

Surreal McCoy 12-31-2012 08:18 AM

Re: Kubiak and Schaub couldn't be any more safer... and it's absolutely disgusting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steal Your Face (Post 2093343)
Andy ... no need to sigh. You don't "have" to go through all this again next year. Sell your PSL ... you can easily get your money back, and then some. Find something else rewarding to do on Sundays.


Excellent post and repped. This post should be a thread of its own.


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