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Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli

RT @BenRogers: Josh Brent mugshot. Intoxication manslaughter. pic.twitter.com/rVQ9BKco

https://twitter.com/BenRogers/status.../photo/1/large

Makes me love our choir boys all the more.

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Oh wow. This is sad. I hate to hear this.

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C'mon dude - I dislike the Cowboys as much as anyone, but this is totally classless. At least lose the smiley.

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I cant now that you quoted it.

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Follow-up is coming on Josh Brent intoxication manslaughter story: Victim was Cowboys teammate Jerry Brown.

Newy Scruggs ‏@newyscruggs

Per Irving PD report #Cowboys NT Josh Brent was drunk, speeding & flipped his car which killed passenger/teammate Jerry Brown. @BlueStarBlog

The story gets worse

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Fixed.

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So sad.

As an aside, he is being held without bail.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/08/josh-b...#ixzz2EUh2CHnX

The accident occurred at 2:30 AM, I'm sure getting drunk 36 hours before a game would have certainly boosted his game.

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Not saying he wasn't drunk but they better have gotten a blood or breath test because a field sobriety test after rolling a car and seeing your buddy dead is going to get torn apart.

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
RT @billvoth: From what looks like Jerry Brown’s Facebook page, a very sad post. He was about to be a dad. pic.twitter.com/P9wKSgZX

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Wow, so sad.

They were college teammates.

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/Cowboys-n...182675961.html

Prayers for the Brown and Cowboys family.

Don't go out drinking without a plan, man. Designated driver, call a cab, limo, something.

Two lives are lost, here, and others are irreparably harmed.

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He will get about 15 - 25 years going by what I have seen others get.

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Two more lives ruined, and families heartbroken. Tragic.

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He's going to have enough problems even if speeding is proven without intoxication. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Texas differentiates involuntary from voluntary manslaughter, which is a 2nd degree felony (what has been reported) and carries with it something like up to ~20 years?

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He was taken to the hospital to have his blood drawn.

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Where is Bob Costas when we need him, to put a little perspective on this tragedy?

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I sort of took that for granted in that there is this little Texas Act on the books that I was made aware of while taking care of a victim of this type of situation.

link

More and more states are actually changing their laws to mandatory blood testing in cases of DUI lieu of having to first request breath testing. The latter, as Cak eluded to has been too easy to "defend" with reasonable doubt, whereas 90% + convictions have been reported with positive blood testing.........juries love this confirmatory evidence.

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Texas has a single recklessness standard but in practice things are differentiated and intoxication will be key to both a conviction and sentencing.

The sentencing varies wildly from around 2-20 years.

As anyone knows who has received a speeding ticket - speeding is not ordinarily considered reckless driving for which there is a separate misdemeanor offense and by analogy recklessness for manslaughter.

If they can't prove intoxication their chances of prosecution plummet and even if successful the sentence will be much lighter. Just imagine this - 100 potential jurors, typical DFW folks, get seated as potential jurors. "How many of you have ever sped in your life?" "How many of you have ever gone 10 mph over the speed limit?" 20, whatever the prosecution is going to claim. Unless you get those with hands in the air to admit they are biased for speeders you ain't getting them off the jury for cause. So now you have a jury with people you are asking to convict themselves of recklessness to the point of being liable for manslaughter. The voir dire would be huge in the case. I'd find the 3-4 worst offenders on the panel (there are always several who will say anything to get out of jury duty) who I am sure the prosecutor is going to strike for cause and wring them about how bad they have been so all the other jurors think well of themselves and the defendant who was "only going 15 mph over the speed limit."

Has anyone seen a report of what kind of vehicle was involved?

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Thanks for the post

I'm sure it was a Yugo!:)

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I edited to add. Please see revised post.

I was curious whether it was a high or low center of gravity car. I have a fair amount of accident reconstruction background (plus spent a lot of time with "Ugly" Joe Hinton) and was curious.

As an aside - not all police are trained in accident reconstruction. Joe has trained many of those who are.

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What's it gonna take for people to understand that THEY are NOT immune to what alcohol does to the brain!! So tragic!

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2007 MB S-Class.