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76Texan 11-23-2012 11:41 PM

JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
From AdvancedNFLStats.com, I compare some of Watt's stats agains other DEs (including 4-3 DE) and many of his numbers are simply ridiculous.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=DE

All-Pro, and Defensive MVP in the making.

Tackles: 44
The next guy is C Campbell (AZ) with 30

Sacks: 17 (they count 1/2 sack as full)
The next guy is Cameron Wake (Dolphins) with 10

Pass Batted Down: 13
That's equal to the next two guys COMBINED.

QB Hits: 30
The next guy is Wake again, with 21.
The third guy had 15

TFL: 24
Three guys tied for 2nd with 11 each

SIMPLY RIDIKULOUS!


I wonder if we can find the stats for QB Pressure somewhere.
I bet it will be crazy just the same.

Corrosion 11-23-2012 11:42 PM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2065055)
From AdvancedNFLStats.com, I compare some of Watt's stats agains other DEs (including 4-3 DE) and many of his numbers are simply ridiculous.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=DE

All-Pro, and Defensive MVP in the making.

Tackles: 44
The next guy is C Campbell (AZ) with 30

Sacks: 17 (they count 1/2 sack as full)
The next guy is Cameron Wake (Dolphins) with 10

Pass Batted Down: 13
That's equal to the next two guys COMBINED.

QB Hits: 30
The next guy is Wake again, with 21.
The third guy had 15

TFL: 24
Three guys tied for 2nd with 11 each

SIMPLY RIDIKULOUS!


I wonder if we can find the stats for QB Pressure somewhere.
I bet it will be crazy just the same.

I said it in another thread ....

JJ Watt for MVP

MEGA SWATT 11-23-2012 11:44 PM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Flat out sick #s. SICK.:cool:

76Texan 11-23-2012 11:46 PM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Also, they had a stat called EPA (Expected Points Added).
Basically it measures the overall efficiency.

Again, his numbers are bigger than the next two guys combined.

Basically, you need two DEs in the league to be able to replace him.
(The next two best, to be more specific.)

That's just CRAZY!

infantrycak 11-24-2012 12:02 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
For some Texans historical perspective. Our 3-4 DE who made the pro bowl:

Gary Walker 2002: 52 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 3 passes defensed, 1 forced fumble, 1 safety.

Watt is 6th in the NFL for passes defensed, 1 away from a tie for 3rd with the 5 guys above him all CB's.

What Watt is doing is epic.

ObsiWan 11-24-2012 12:16 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Watt is the reincarnation of Bob Lilly.

it's that simple.

SAMURAITEXAN 11-24-2012 12:33 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
This is what you get from gifted specimen with good character and hard work.
Just wow!!!

Go JJ Watt!!!
Go Texans!!!

NitroGSXR 11-24-2012 12:36 AM

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Dutch... we need a gif of Watt being penalized like crazy and his only response was a finger wag.

Complete class and awesomeness.

klockWork 11-24-2012 12:50 AM

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I have all 11 Texans game archive in my PC and watch each game again. Focusing at Watt performances, I noticed their were many times where during his pass rush moves, he would let up and stop short on his way to the QB to make an attempt to knock down passes. Many of those were pump fakes and if Watt hadn't let up he would have been in a collision course to sack the QB.

If he wasn't so hell bent in knocking down passes, Strahan sack record would have been broken already. Like the Metallica's song, this guy is "Some Kind Of Monster"

infantrycak 11-24-2012 01:05 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Yeah because QB's frequently spend the time to pump fake when they feel an imminent sack.

I'll trust Watt's judgment on whether he could get to the QB in time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2065076)
Watt is the reincarnation of Bob Lily.

it's that simple.

Spot on other than Bob isn't dead.

TexansFanatic 11-24-2012 01:24 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
If he isn't defensive MVP it will be a total injustice.

The dude is posting epic stats from a position not usually conducive to posting epic stats.

His passes defensed numbers are virtually aberrant numbers.

He is an outlier, but not because of some fluke. He is consistently, game in and game out, producing aberrant numbers for a player at his position.

This needs to be appreciated. Case closed.

ajohnson80 11-24-2012 01:33 AM

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This guy has won us at least 3 games by my count this year, and he was a difference maker in our only playoff win. I hope he stays here for his whole career so I can watch him reach Olajuwon's legendary h-town status. :fans:

He and AJ seem to be our reliable clutch guys in close games, and I couldn't be more proud watching these guys fight for every w.

ObsiWan 11-24-2012 02:44 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2065093)
Yeah because QB's frequently spend the time to pump fake when they feel an imminent sack.

I'll trust Watt's judgment on whether he could get to the QB in time.



Spot on other than Bob isn't dead.

Well... we do know that cloning is scientifically possible...
:D

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...cWWJbf4Fty3Xx_ https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...FeMTcr0SE9EXYv

I mean who knows what CloakNNNDagger does when he's not on here...

Just sayin'.....
:D

infantrycak 11-24-2012 02:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2065113)
Well... we do know that cloning is scientifically possible...
:D

Funny how times change. Lily was 6'5" but 260 lbs.

Can you imagine two Bob Lilys as OLB in Wade's scheme with JJ and Antonio as DE's?

beerlover 11-24-2012 02:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2065114)
Funny how times change. Lily was 6'5" but 260 lbs.

Can you imagine two Bob Lilys as OLB in Wade's scheme with JJ and Antonio as DE's?

how many beers/shots have you had :vinny:

infantrycak 11-24-2012 03:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2065116)
how many beers/shots have you had :vinny:

None of either. I have had a couple martinis. By all means please explain how QB's would not be quivering?

beerlover 11-24-2012 03:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2065118)
None of either. I have had a couple martinis. By all means please explain how QB's would not be quivering?

simply stated it does show both age & proclivity for them old Cowboys during the man's reign & you know I'm talking about Tom Landry one of if not the, greatest coach of all time in the NFL. Lily was a mini Watt so to speak but why not compare Tom to Gary while your at it? As always your insight & reflection are priceless, thanks for indulging:wesmantexanfan:

infantrycak 11-24-2012 03:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2065119)
simply stated it does show both age & proclivity for them old Cowboys during the man's reign & you know I'm talking about

Guilty as charged. As I have said I grew up during the halcyon days in Dallas. I thought about saying Lilly on one side and Randy White on the other.

Quote:

Tom Landry one of if not the, greatest coach of all time in the NFL. Lily was a mini Watt so to speak but why not compare Tom to Gary while your at it?
Landry is my favorite coach. I like Kubiak but he can't pee in Landry's fedora at this point.

Corrosion 11-24-2012 05:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2065121)



Landry is my favorite coach. I like Kubiak but he can't pee in Landry's fedora at this point.

I dont think there has been a more innovative coach since Landry .... he did afterall invent the 43 defense which is todays most popular defense in the NFL and college.


Gary's offense isnt really innovative as much as it is about fundamentals.

Lucky 11-24-2012 08:22 AM

Re: JJ Watt absurd numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2065076)
Watt is the reincarnation of Bob Lilly.

it's that simple.

Bob Lilly was a great player. But he never had a season like Watt is having. The only guy you could compare Watts season to is Reggie White. Who was also coached by Wade.


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