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HOU-TEX 11-14-2012 02:36 PM

Dobbins Fined 30K
 
Good grief!

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Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter

NFL fined Texans LB Tim Dobbins $30,000 for hitting Jay Cutler - even though Dobbins claimed Cutler ran into him.

Thorn 11-14-2012 02:38 PM

Re: Dobbins Fined 30K
 
Whether you like it or not, you had to know this was coming.

HOU-TEX 11-14-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2057696)
Whether you like it or not, you had to know this was coming.

Yeah, which is why I never really had much to say about it. I, honestly, wasn't sure if it was legal or not. I kinda figured he'd be fined either way.

30K's probably a good chunk of cabbage for him.

Titans Sux 72 11-14-2012 02:41 PM

For a guy like Dobbins that's a lota cheddar yo.

Dutchrudder 11-14-2012 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter

NFL fined Texans LB Tim Dobbins $30,000 for hitting Jay Cutler - even though Dobbins claimed Cutler ran into him.
Had to go watch it again, I don't see it at all: http://youtu.be/bVv6VYKRIUQ?t=1h2m58s

No suspension though, so it's all good. Teach him a lesson about going high on a QB.

Say Watt 11-14-2012 02:44 PM

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This is getting out of control.

Did anyone ever determine what the rule is for a QB once he is past the LOS? I thought if he was past the LOS and was not sliding that he could be treated like any other player.

It is almost to the point that the QB just needs to run the ball every damn time because if he gets hit, it will be a flag on the defense. Just put flags on the weenies already.

The Pencil Neck 11-14-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Say Watt (Post 2057704)
This is getting out of control.

Did anyone ever determine what the rule is for a QB once he is past the LOS? I thought if he was past the LOS and was not sliding that he could be treated like any other player.

It is almost to the point that the QB just needs to run the ball every damn time because if he gets hit, it will be a flag on the defense. Just put flags on the weenies already.

The rule states that a QB is a QB if he's throwing a pass (even an illegal pass) and you can't hit him high. By rule, Dobbins committed a foul.

76Texan 11-14-2012 02:51 PM

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Dang, that's a little stiff for him, I think.

On the bright side, he doesn't get suspended.

BIG TORO 11-14-2012 02:52 PM

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That's about double what I was thinking!

gwallaia 11-14-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Dobbins Fined 30K
 
When a player is fined, where does the money go?

ChampionTexan 11-14-2012 02:53 PM

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Well, since I wouldn't have been shocked to see him suspended for a game (ala Joe Mays), I'm happy for the Texans sake - and the sake of the fans - that it's only a fine.

I know it's more significant for a guy like Dobbins than some players, and that's too bad, but at least he's not losing a game check on top of the fine.

Exascor 11-14-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2057712)
When a player is fined, where does the money go?

Pretty sure it's an NFL charity.

ChampionTexan 11-14-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2057712)
When a player is fined, where does the money go?

A charity designated by the NFL.

gwallaia 11-14-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampionTexan (Post 2057715)
A charity designated by the NFL.

See, that could be dangerous. Players think, "Hell, might as well whack this QB and help out a charity."

HOU-TEX 11-14-2012 02:58 PM

Re: Dobbins Fined 30K
 
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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2057717)
See, that could be dangerous. Players think, "Hell, might as well whack this QB and help out a charity."

I wonder if they can write it off as well?

Say Watt 11-14-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Dobbins Fined 30K
 
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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck (Post 2057706)
The rule states that a QB is a QB if he's throwing a pass (even an illegal pass) and you can't hit him high. By rule, Dobbins committed a foul.

That is an absolutely ludicrous rule then. Rep to you though for clarifying.

A QB could then just start running, get past the LOS, still act like he is going to pass, and suddenly the defense can't tackle him like they would anyone else. This could be a huge advantage, if they were to ever utilize it, for guys like Vick, Newton, and others that can start running, freeze a defense with a fake pass forcing the defender to go low, and then juke out of the way and off he goes. This is all part of the game when the QB is behind the LOS, but it is asinine to allow it past the LOS.

ChampionTexan 11-14-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2057717)
See, that could be dangerous. Players think, "Hell, might as well whack this QB and help out a charity."

So your saying if the NFL (meaning the Owners) were to be the party to financially benefit from the fine that it would improve things?

Dutchrudder 11-14-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2057717)
See, that could be dangerous. Players think, "Hell, might as well whack this QB and help out a charity."

I hope this image comes to mind if they are thinking that before laying out a QB:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y97dr_ileq...e-children.jpg

gtexan02 11-14-2012 03:01 PM

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He went high at Cutler on purpose. Maybe that played into the fine.

Heres what he said:

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“I felt like [the hit] was on time,” said Dobbins.

He wasn’t sure if it was his blow or one delivered by Jackson at the end of a Cutler scramble on the very next play that ultimately meant Jason Campbell would play the second half.

“I have no idea, I have no clue,” he said, before touching on the increasingly taboo topic of knocking a player from the game. “But it was good that he was out, though. I mean you always want to take the quarterback out of the game. I hit him in his chest. I did not hit him in his head. Nowhere near it. I did not touch his helmet.”

Typically Dobbins said he would look to hit a quarterback hip-high, but as Cutler was still trying to make a play, he felt going higher gave him more of a chance to “mess up the throw as well.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...s-chicago-that

The Pencil Neck 11-14-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Say Watt (Post 2057719)
That is an absolutely ludicrous rule then. Rep to you though for clarifying.

A QB could then just start running, get past the LOS, still act like he is going to pass, and suddenly the defense can't tackle him like they would anyone else. This could be a huge advantage, if they were to ever utilize it, for guys like Vick, Newton, and others that can start running, freeze a defense with a fake pass forcing the defender to go low, and then juke out of the way and off he goes. This is all part of the game when the QB is behind the LOS, but it is asinine to allow it past the LOS.

Just don't tackle him high or low.

And don't rep me, rep Champion Texan. He's the one who did the research and posted the actual text from the rulebook.


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