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Exascor 11-09-2012 09:44 AM

Texans Owe Their Current Success to the 2010 Season
 
2005 was a rough year to witness. The Texans had showed improvement each year until then but completely collapsed. The team was so dysfunctional & broken that it had to be blown up from the top down. Kubiak & Smith were hired and the roster needed to be purged. After only 4 years there were only 7 players left on the team that played in 2005. In 2012 there is only 1 left on the team (AJ) and only 4 others left in the entire NFL (J Babin, D Carr, J Gaffney & D Robinson). As important as the changes made in 2005 were, 2010 is the reason the Texans could be playoff contenders for the next decade.

The 2010 season was another terrible year for Texans fans to watch. 2009 was the first winning season in team history. Instead of following that with another good season, the team goes 6-10. Again, it seemed as if another team collapse was imminent.

The events/decisions made in the offseason and during the season impacted the team for the better.
-Impact players from the 2010 draft Ė K Jackson, B Tate, E Mitchell, D Sharpton & G Graham
-Impact player signings in the 2010 offseason Ė Wade Smith
-The team decides to go young with K Jackson & G Quin at cornerback (not pursuing D Robinson)
-B Tate gets injured in the preseason opening the door for A Foster
-A Foster helps the team get the P Manning monkey off their back in the first game
-A Foster leads the league in rushing forcing defenses to finally respect the rushing game
-A Foster cements his place as the Texans starting RB with 18 TDs
-The team starts the season 4-2 but the defense shows signs of being really bad
-The team loses close last minute games against the Jags, Jets, Ravens & Broncos
-The team loses 8 out of the last 10 games of the season
-The team has a historically bad defense
-The Cowboys have a bad year and W Phillips gets fired

The fact is that if the Texans had won any of those close games things change. If the Texans would have signed D Robinson the defense would have been better (even if marginally) in 2010. Even a 1 game improvement in the win column affects the draft order. No JJ Watt or B Reed. If the team wins 2-3 of those close games, thereís a good chance we still have Frank Bush as DC. Welcome back to the 7-9 to 9-7 merry go round. Itís because of the poor season that Kubiak had no choice to change his DC. Itís because of the poor season & decision to play young CBs that the team felt they needed to get J Joseph & D Manning.

Sometimes teams need a poor season to improve. P Manning & A Luck were picked after the Colts were the worst team in the NFL. E Manning went to the Giants because they went 6-10. The Steelers were 9-7, 13-3 & 10-5 before going 6-10 and drafting B Roethlisberger.

Having your team go 6-10 is not enjoyable to watch but sometimes there is a silver/gold/platinum (J Joseph/JJ Watt/W Phillips) lining that makes it a little better. When the Texans return from New Orleans in February with new hardware for their trophy case, remember that the suffering in 2010 was all worth it.

ObsiWan 11-09-2012 01:05 PM

Re: Texans Owe Their Current Success to the 2010 Season
 
So you're showing us how many eggs we had to break to come up with this yummy omelette. I follow you.

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Texans Owe Their Current Success to the 2010 Season
 
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Originally Posted by ckhouston (Post 2054459)
Texans owe their success to Wade Phillips ... period.

How dumb is this... Yes, Wade is a big part but Gary, Rick Smith and Bob deserve as much or more credit..

Lucky 11-11-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exascor (Post 2053677)
-Impact players from the 2010 draft – K Jackson, B Tate, E Mitchell, D Sharpton & G Graham
-Impact player signings in the 2010 offseason – Wade Smith

You and I have differing definitions of the term "impact player". Some of these guys are solid. Some are JAGs. None are impact players.

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2054464)
You and I have differing definitions of the term "impact player". Some of these guys are solid. Some are JAGs. None are impact players.

Agreed

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ckhouston (Post 2054466)
Hopefully you are kidding ...

Nope!:hurrah:

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ckhouston (Post 2054459)
Texans owe their success to Wade Phillips ... period.

Gary and Rick Smith took the least talented NFL roster and turned it into one of the top 3 talented rosters in the NFL...

Bob McNair hired both of them, and got Wade Phillips here.

Wade turned are defense into an Elite unit.

All are deserving of credit

Lurvinator11 11-11-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ckhouston (Post 2054470)
Sad if you really believe that. Without Wade we are still waiting to make the playoffs. Do you think Rick was responsible in signing J-Jo and Manning and drafting Watt, Reed, etc? If you do then you may want to consider following another sport.

Wade was the missing piece to our success. Yes, but before him, we may not have had the best defense, but we always turned out a great offense because of Kubiak.

The thing I like the most about Wade, other than his defense, is I think he really showed Smith a new way of evaluating players. Our last two drafts have been really great.

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ckhouston (Post 2054470)
Sad if you really believe that. Without Wade we are still waiting to make the playoffs. Do you think Rick was responsible in signing J-Jo and Manning and drafting Watt, Reed, etc? If you do then you may want to consider following another sport.

Players Gary and Rick have brought in.
1. Matt Schaub( Top 8 QB)
2. Duane Brown (Top 3 LT)
3. Chris Myers for a 6th rounder(Easily a top center)
4. Foster(Top 3 RB)
5. Owen Daniel
6. Kevin Walter for a 7th rounder
7. Ben tate(top 3 backup RB in the league.

Defense
1. Brian cushing
2. Connor Barwin
3. Glover quinn
4. Johnathan Joseph
5. Daniel Manning

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:18 PM

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No one person is responsible for for where the Texans are right now. Gary, Rick smith, Bob Mcnair and wade phillips are all responsible for where the Texans are today.

Lurvinator11 11-11-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf123 (Post 2054473)
Players Gary and Rick have brought in.
1. Matt Schaub( Top 8 QB)
2. Duane Brown (Top 3 LT)
3. Chris Myers for a 6th rounder(Easily a top center)
4. Foster(Top 3 RB)
5. Owen Daniel
6. Kevin Walter for a 7th rounder
7. Ben tate(top 3 backup RB in the league.

Defense
1. Brian cushing
2. Connor Barwin
3. Glover quinn
4. Johnathan Joseph
5. Daniel Manning


Joseph and Manning are the only two that were signed once Wade was here.

But I believe Rick had them on his wishlist from the get go.

Lurvinator11 11-11-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf123 (Post 2054474)
No one person is responsible for for where the Texans are right now. Gary, Rick smith, Bob Mcnair and wade phillips are all responsible for where the Texans are today.

Yes. They have been doing it right for the past few years now. Building through the draft, making smart signings, and of course paying the big bucks. Thanks Bob!

If you want to get real technical though, we have to owe it to Bob, without him, the Texans wouldn't even be here!

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurvinator11 (Post 2054475)
Joseph and Manning are the only two that were signed once Wade was here.

But I believe Rick had them on his wishlist from the get go.

True, I just give Rick more credit because Wade had Namdi rated as the #1 and we were in on him but he was flirting with cowboys and eagles. Rick decided that it was a better to get Joseph signed instead of waiting on Nnamdi Asomugha to pick which team he wanted to go too. The savings we got going with Joseph allowed us to get Manning.

Lurvinator11 11-11-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf123 (Post 2054477)
True, I just give Rick more credit because Wade had Namdi rated as the #1 and we were in on him but he was flirting with cowboys and eagles. Rick decided that it was a better to get Joseph signed instead of waiting on Nnamdi Asomugha to pick which team he wanted to go too. The savings we got going with Joseph allowed us to get Manning.

Those two moves were much better than getting Nnamdi.

Good move on Smith, especially not giving in to pressure from the fans.

wolf123 11-11-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurvinator11 (Post 2054478)
Those two moves were much better than getting Nnamdi.

Good move on Smith, especially not giving in to pressure from the fans.

I expect Manning to crush his former team today!!!:hurrah:

thunderkyss 11-11-2012 03:13 PM

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beerlover 11-11-2012 04:53 PM

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How about all the hardcore fans who hung in there through thick & thin :hairpull: :grouphug: :koolaid: :texan: :wesmantexanfan:

beerlover 11-21-2012 01:54 AM

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More likely this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAmnW...ure=watch-vrec


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