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Playoffs 10-25-2012 12:19 PM

Tebow voted Most Overrated Player by peers
 
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Based on 180 NFL players who responded.

hobie 10-25-2012 12:28 PM

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Most overhyped yes... overrated, no..

How can you be overrated when you do not play.. He isn't paid insane dollars and not living up to the salary, that is overrated.... It's the same people polled that also ranked him in the top 100... this ranking thing is overrated !!

houstonspartan 10-25-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hobie (Post 2044906)
Most overhyped yes... overrated, no..

How can you be overrated when you do not play.. He isn't paid insane dollars and not living up to the salary, that is overrated.... It's the same people polled that also ranked him in the top 100... this ranking thing is overrated !!

TOTALLY agree. Was just about to write the same thing. Tebow gets too much media attention. But, one has to play before they're considered overrated, IMO.

LondonTex 10-25-2012 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hobie (Post 2044906)
Most overhyped yes... overrated, no..

How can you be overrated when you do not play.. He isn't paid insane dollars and not living up to the salary, that is overrated.... It's the same people polled that also ranked him in the top 100... this ranking thing is overrated !!

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Originally Posted by houstonspartan (Post 2044941)
TOTALLY agree. Was just about to write the same thing. Tebow gets too much media attention. But, one has to play before they're considered overrated, IMO.

Agree with both of you on this. He's not exactly been inundated with snaps to make a fair judgement. - I still think he made a mistake going to the Jets in the first place. He's being called overrated when he's spending all of his time playing second fiddle to a player of whom, I'm certain, is overrated IMO. Not for a second saying Tim should be QB1 @ the Jets - to be honest I wouldn't know what his best position would be as I haven't seen enough of him. I just think he made a bad move choosing them in the first place if he wants what's best for his career.

Goldensilence 10-25-2012 01:58 PM

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Well, maybe not THIS year but last year he was getting plenty of snaps. I think that is more on the minds of players then what has transpired this yer.

Is his lack of snaps an indictment of his ability to get hold of an offense or a team that made the splashy trade to get him and don't use him "properly"?

I guess when I hear "overrated" I think how much a player gets credit for (or hyped) vs his real impact over time.

Last year.. I would say he was.

This year ironically say Sanchez has taken the mantle considering his team just sunk quite a bit into his extension and he's struggling still even after the supposed simplifying of the offense by Haley.

Double Barrel 10-25-2012 03:18 PM

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I'm kinda' surprised that Mario is not on the list. No disrespect intended, but c'mon, $100 million for that guy? Dude is worth a fraction of the amount. Laughable that Bills fans / media were hyping him as the second coming of Bruce Smith.

TheIronDuke 10-25-2012 03:30 PM

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Wasn't he on the top-50 players list as voted by his peers just last season?

Vinny 10-25-2012 03:38 PM

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I vote Mario Williams, Tim Tebow...and the Lions defensive line.

HJam72 10-25-2012 03:39 PM

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I kind of see Tebow as like VY when people first started to realize that he is just not good (even though it's for very different reasons). Haven't watched him much at all though.

Dutchrudder 10-25-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LondonTex (Post 2044972)
Agree with both of you on this. He's not exactly been inundated with snaps to make a fair judgement. - I still think he made a mistake going to the Jets in the first place. He's being called overrated when he's spending all of his time playing second fiddle to a player of whom, I'm certain, is overrated IMO. Not for a second saying Tim should be QB1 @ the Jets - to be honest I wouldn't know what his best position would be as I haven't seen enough of him. I just think he made a bad move choosing them in the first place if he wants what's best for his career.

Two things:

1. Tebow was traded to the Jets, I don't think he had much say in where he went. The Broncos wanted to get the most out of him and offload his contract to make way for Peyton. They accomplished that.

2. If Tebow did have a say in it, where do you think he has the most to gain, Jax or NYC? NYC builds his brand immensely, and given that his playing career could be over in a couple years, why not make the most of this time and be king of the Big Apple for a few years? I think he made the right choice, he will be an icon for years to come by going to NYC over anywhere else.

He's definitely overrated, but I don't think he cares one bit. He will continue to do his thing as well as he can, but he's making millions more outside of the NFL because he's in NYC.

Dread-Head 10-25-2012 04:12 PM

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Gonna have to agree, that and I'm pissed at this a-hole because he's now trying to get a patent on dropping to one knee to pray. He is hardly the inventor of it and needs a beat down if he's trying to collect a royalty each time someone drops to one knee to praise their God.

I DO however take issue with the Ray Lewis thing. Anyone who thinks that Ray Lewis is over rated needs to run directly at him with a football a few times.

LondonTex 10-25-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2045055)
Two things:

1. Tebow was traded to the Jets, I don't think he had much say in where he went. The Broncos wanted to get the most out of him and offload his contract to make way for Peyton. They accomplished that.

2. If Tebow did have a say in it, where do you think he has the most to gain, Jax or NYC? NYC builds his brand immensely, and given that his playing career could be over in a couple years, why not make the most of this time and be king of the Big Apple for a few years? I think he made the right choice, he will be an icon for years to come by going to NYC over anywhere else.

He's definitely overrated, but I don't think he cares one bit. He will continue to do his thing as well as he can, but he's making millions more outside of the NFL because he's in NYC.

You could well be right but I believe he passed on Jax which might have been a mistake - not saying it would definetley have worked out but the potential was there for it to have been a good move for both the Jags (who havent exactly had much to be excited about) and Tebow. Being a local boy would have probably meant an increase in fans (imagine he was the major draw for 8 sold out home games)... I would guess he would draw a lot more fans to Everbank than usual. I read somewhere that the extra revenue he would bring in to the Jags in tickets sales and huge amounts of merch sales would put him in a good bargaining position to triple his salary from the $1.9 he gets at the Jets. Also the Jags would more then likley play to his strengths (whatever they are) which would = a happy Tebow.....The Jags fans would more than likley adore him to cult status proportions.

Of course, all this is all 'what if'. I'm still learning about the ins and outs of NFL contracts and the intrcicies of how NFL franchises do business so I could be way off base here.

Double Barrel 10-26-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2045068)
Gonna have to agree, that and I'm pissed at this a-hole because he's now trying to get a patent on dropping to one knee to pray. He is hardly the inventor of it and needs a beat down if he's trying to collect a royalty each time someone drops to one knee to praise their God.

Wow. I have not heard that he's trying patent it. That's just sad.

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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2045068)
I DO however take issue with the Ray Lewis thing. Anyone who thinks that Ray Lewis is over rated needs to run directly at him with a football a few times.

I agree.

Side story: I met Antowain Smith recently. He's a salesman in my industry (very cool to hold one of his Patriots Super Bowl rings!).

Anyway, I asked him about Ray Lewis. He said dude is even more intense than what we see on tv. He said the scary thing is knowing that you are about to be handed the rock on a running play, and Ray is calling out the play before the hike and filling the gap that you are supposed to run through. He just prayed that the QB would audible in those situations, because he knew that he wasn't getting by Ray Lewis.

He said Ray is a hard hitter, but the hardest he's ever been hit was during his rookie season. Steve Atwater knocked the sense out of him and he's pretty sure that he suffered a concussion before even hitting the ground. He actually cringed telling me that story.

LondonTex 10-26-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2045068)
I DO however take issue with the Ray Lewis thing. Anyone who thinks that Ray Lewis is over rated needs to run directly at him with a football a few times.

Agree with this also. (Not that I've ever had the pleasure of running at him - I place a certain degree of value on my life lol)

JCTexan 10-26-2012 01:32 PM

Re: Tebow voted Most Overrated Player by peers
 
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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2045068)
Gonna have to agree, that and I'm pissed at this a-hole because he's now trying to get a patent on dropping to one knee to pray. He is hardly the inventor of it and needs a beat down if he's trying to collect a royalty each time someone drops to one knee to praise their God.

I DO however take issue with the Ray Lewis thing. Anyone who thinks that Ray Lewis is over rated needs to run directly at him with a football a few times.

Did you happen to read the whole article? Tim Tebow doesn't want anyone profiting off 'tebowing', which some people have tried to do.

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Last December, the owners of both Tebowing.com and TebowingGear.com both filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Within weeks, Tebow’s legal reps sent letters of protest, and both their applications have since been declared dead. Now his own has finally gone through; and while it won’t keep people from Tebowing, it will keep anybody else from profiting from it.

Link

infantrycak 10-26-2012 09:44 PM

Re: Tebow voted Most Overrated Player by peers
 
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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2045626)
Side story: I met Antowain Smith recently. He's a salesman in my industry (very cool to hold one of his Patriots Super Bowl rings!)...

Cool DB. I met him on a spring afternoon after he had gotten his ring and he sat down and hung out with us for a while at Sam's Boat. He left his entourage to hang with us. Real nice guy.


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