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Tailgate 10-09-2012 09:14 AM

Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
Demeco gone. Cushing out. Here is our new unit for the rest of 2012:

Tim Dobbins
Bradie James
Mister Alexander
Darryl Sharpton

Can this unit be enough come January? Whats the status on Sharpton? Can we expect him to make an impact post injury? Where can we find an upgrade, if possible?

MojoMan 10-09-2012 09:16 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by Tailgate (Post 2031923)
Demeco gone. Cushing out. Here is our new unit for the rest of 2012:

Tim Dobbins
Bradie James
Mister Alexander
Darryl Sharpton

Can this unit be enough come January? Whats the status on Sharpton? Can we expect him to make an impact post injury? Where can we find an upgrade, if possible?

Might make sense to add another reasonably high draft pick at ILB this year.

fiasco west 10-09-2012 09:19 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by MojoMan (Post 2031924)
Might make sense to add another reasonably high draft pick at ILB this year.

Yeah. Could be a first round pick.

Either that or RG-RT depending on how those young guys continue to look. I'd put ILB first priority though, even before the injury because James hasn't been that good IMO.

gtexan02 10-09-2012 09:19 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
Cushing is our TE and RB coverage guy as well. This is going to hurt us in the passing game a lot.

rmartin65 10-09-2012 09:22 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by MojoMan (Post 2031924)
Might make sense to add another reasonably high draft pick at ILB this year.

A lot of us wanted one this past draft.

I think ILB becomes a weakpoint in the D. I am comfortable with Dobbins, but that is it out of that group. James, maybe. But the other guys are depth guys, and if they are seeing regular playing time, we are in trouble. Sharpton is still coming off an injury, and I was never high on him to begin with. Alexander is young and has potential, but he is still far from ready.

That said, I think Wade will cook up some stuff to lessen the weakness. But in my opinion the two weakest positions on the D are ILB and NT. Right up the gut. That is a problem.

MojoMan 10-09-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fiasco west (Post 2031925)
Yeah. Could be a first round pick.

Either that or RG-RT depending on how those young guys continue to look. I'd put ILB first priority though, even before the injury because James hasn't been that good IMO.

A third or fourth rounder would probably do it. Cushing will return.

In the first I would love to see a really good nose tackle. Not that our current guys are terrible at that spot, but the Texans really have no glaring weaknesses at this point that demand a first round pick, and the NT position may well be the weakest position on the team.

Errant Hothy 10-09-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gtexan02 (Post 2031926)
Cushing is our TE and RB coverage guy as well. This is going to hurt us in the passing game a lot.

When the D is in dime, which has been a bunch this year, Glover covers the TE usually.

Rotate the three; James, Dobbins and M. Alexander; and go with 3 linemen (Watt, the DT rotation, Smith), 3 backers (Brooks, Barwin and the ILB shuffle) and 5 dbs (KJ, JJo, Quin, Manning and Nolan/Ball).

fiasco west 10-09-2012 09:32 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by MojoMan (Post 2031931)
A third or fourth rounder would probably do it. Cushing will return.

In the first I would love to see a really good nose tackle. Not that our current guys are terrible at that spot, but the Texans really have no glaring weaknesses at this point that demand a first round pick, and the NT position may well be the weakest position on the team.

He will return but with major injuries like this you always have to ask if his performance will remain the same.

Although I wouldn't argue with a NT at all.

gtexan02 10-09-2012 09:35 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by MojoMan (Post 2031931)
A third or fourth rounder would probably do it. Cushing will return.

In the first I would love to see a really good nose tackle. Not that our current guys are terrible at that spot, but the Texans really have no glaring weaknesses at this point that demand a first round pick, and the NT position may well be the weakest position on the team.

This is a good point. Additionally, we can only have one ILB on the field in our nickel and dime packages, so whoever is the #2 ILB is not an everydown player.

The only issue for me here is that ILB has consistently been one of the easiest positions to draft. Very few 1st round ILBs turn out to be busts. DTs, on the other hand, are second only to QBs in bust potential. The Texans have not been good at drafting interior lineman.

badboy 10-09-2012 09:41 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by rmartin65 (Post 2031929)
A lot of us wanted one this past draft.

I think ILB becomes a weakpoint in the D. I am comfortable with Dobbins, but that is it out of that group. James, maybe. But the other guys are depth guys, and if they are seeing regular playing time, we are in trouble. Sharpton is still coming off an injury, and I was never high on him to begin with. Alexander is young and has potential, but he is still far from ready.

That said, I think Wade will cook up some stuff to lessen the weakness. But in my opinion the two weakest positions on the D are ILB and NT. Right up the gut. That is a problem.

I am looking at Kevin Minter LSU
if there in second. Would still take Andrew Jackson in 5th. Minter had 20 tackles & two sacks in losing to Florida. He cramped and left game for 20 minutes and could have been the difference. I also think your evaluation of current linebackers is correct.

rmartin65 10-09-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2031946)
I am looking at Kevin Minter LSU
if there in second. Would still take Andrew Jackson in 5th. Minter had 20 tackles & two sacks in losing to Florida. He cramped and left game for 20 minutes and could have been the difference. I also think your evaluation of current linebackers is correct.

Minter is a beast. I hate LSU, but Minter is fun to watch. Te'o is definitely the cream of the crop, but he should be gone before the Texans pick. Minter may be as well, but there is a shot.

As for Jackson, if he is not projected to go in the top couple rounds, then he should stay in school. He is only a junior, he has no reason to go. If he does declare, I think I would take him in the 3rd. He is definitely not going to be an ILB that can cover, but down around the LOS I think he could be one of the best.

Jackie Chiles 10-09-2012 09:50 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
Once we get Demps back I wouldn't mind seeing extra safeties (and no ILBs) on the field for the dime package assuming the distance is long enough.

Other than that, Dobbins is going to make his fair share of plays and I expect to see quite a bit of blitzing from our ILBs, both against the run and pass to compensate.

awc713 10-09-2012 10:07 AM

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Why are yall worrying about the draft???

MojoMan 10-09-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by awc713 (Post 2031970)
Why are yall worrying about the draft???

Why not?

badboy 10-09-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by awc713 (Post 2031970)
Why are yall worrying about the draft???

Because some of us look beyond the very next game. It's fun and what we do.

DX-TEX 10-09-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by awc713 (Post 2031970)
Why are yall worrying about the draft???

Seasons over! 6-10!:choke:

Double Barrel 10-09-2012 10:18 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
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Originally Posted by awc713 (Post 2031970)
Why are yall worrying about the draft???

Because we are fans and that's what fans do. :texflag:

ItsMyFault 10-09-2012 10:23 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
I'll have to see it on the field. Nobody's going to replace Cushing, but I hope the defense steps up as a group to play even better than have been.

JVL713 10-09-2012 10:25 AM

Re: Our new look ILB position moving forward.
 
We drafted a LB last year. Not an ILB, granted, but if ILB does become an issue, should we try to get one of either Mercilus, Barwin, or Reed to play inside and allow the other two to play outside? None of the above are lacking in size or athletic ability.

DX-TEX 10-09-2012 10:25 AM

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Time for our OLB's to step up their game! Barwin, Reed, Mercilous....Im looking at you....


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