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PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:00 PM

Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
Our defense has been great this year but I get the feeling wade hasn't shown all his cards. Am i the only one that feels this way?

Playoffs 10-04-2012 02:04 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
Don't think he's gone to the lucky bikini underwear, yet.

TejasTom 10-04-2012 02:06 PM

GQ was on the radio this week and said something along the lines of Wade has complex stuff in the game plan if he needs it, he just hasn't needed it.

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PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
whats that suppose to mean lol

TheIronDuke 10-04-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
I think we've held back what we can do both offensively and defensively. Waiting for the competitive stretch in the schedule to open things up more. No point in giving the real teams more film than we need to.

PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:08 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
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Originally Posted by TejasTom (Post 2027935)
GQ was on the radio this week and said something along the lines of Wade has complex stuff in the game plan if he needs it, he just hasn't needed it.

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Thats what i thought. i also thoguht wade would move jj watt to a postion that gives him more opturtinys to get at the qb.

Vinny 10-04-2012 02:09 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
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Originally Posted by PandapuffTexan (Post 2027927)
Our defense has been great this year but I get the feeling wade hasn't shown all his cards. Am i the only one that feels this way?

wouldn't it be kinda dumb to show all your cards when your avg margin of victory is around 20 points?

This is almost the perpetual motion question...it answers itself if you let it.

PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheIronDuke (Post 2027937)
I think we've held back what we can do both offensively and defensively. Waiting for the competitive stretch in the schedule to open things up more. No point in giving the real teams more film than we need to.

I hope your right Ray lewis scares me lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3j-m...eature=related

HJam72 10-04-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PandapuffTexan (Post 2027939)
Thats what i thought. i also thoguht wade would move jj watt to a postion that gives him more opturtinys to get at the qb.

JJ Watt only needs one position to get to the QB, and that is the on-the-field position.

michaelm 10-04-2012 02:12 PM

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Yes, I think the coaching staff has made a strategic decision to stay in their base packages for the most part, until a team starts to beat it.

And I believe that is true for offense, for the most part, as well as defense.

The only exception offensively was when they started the game against the jags with several screen plays in a row. I thought it worked well, but it seemed strange to me at the time.

PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:15 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
Is the coaches holding back arian foster somewhat, hes still really good but hast had the same kinda dominance he had last year. Is it due to his vegan switch or we havnt let go of the leash yet.

gary 10-04-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
Mercilus should play more.

HJam72 10-04-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PandapuffTexan (Post 2027954)
Is the coaches holding back arian foster somewhat, hes still really good but hast had the same kinda dominance he had last year. Is it due to his vegan switch or we havnt let go of the leash yet.

Nobody's telling individual players not to play well. Something isn't right with the O-Line, and it's not just the right side, either. Something is....not bad, but just not as effective as before. Wasn't there a rule change of some kind effecting the backside blocks?

Premier 10-04-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PandapuffTexan (Post 2027943)
I hope your right Ray lewis scares me lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3j-m...eature=related

i saw ogbanaya blow up ray lewis in the raven-browns game.. ray has cemented a hell of a legacy but hes not the same guy in that video laying out steve mcnair and eddie george..

you remember ogbanaya.. our 4th rb last year..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKyWaJaXlUE

chicagotexan2 10-04-2012 02:45 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
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Originally Posted by PandapuffTexan (Post 2027927)
Our defense has been great this year but I get the feeling wade hasn't shown all his cards. Am i the only one that feels this way?

Now playing... Simply Red performing off their greatest hit album 'Holding back the D'


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infantrycak 10-04-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelm (Post 2027946)
And I believe that is true for offense, for the most part, as well as defense.

The only exception offensively was when they started the game against the jags with several screen plays in a row. I thought it worked well, but it seemed strange to me at the time.

I have been impressed the O has come in with very distinct game plans. The Denver game they were slinging it. But generally I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by HJam72 (Post 2027958)
Nobody's telling individual players not to play well. Something isn't right with the O-Line, and it's not just the right side, either. Something is....not bad, but just not as effective as before. Wasn't there a rule change of some kind effecting the backside blocks?

I mentioned this last year when we had a rushing slump. We run the stretch off two different angles. The OL sometimes comes off the line at about a 45 degree angle. Other times they come off at about 75 degrees. The larger angle seems to be much more successful to me. I would love to know what the coaches see/reason in making the choice.

PandapuffTexan 10-04-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
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Originally Posted by Premier (Post 2027961)
i saw ogbanaya blow up ray lewis in the raven-browns game.. ray has cemented a hell of a legacy but hes not the same guy in that video laying out steve mcnair and eddie george..

you remember ogbanaya.. our 4th rb last year..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKyWaJaXlUE

I agree he is getting up there in age, just they have dominated us just like the colts and would like to see the texans finally beat baltimore

76Texan 10-04-2012 03:10 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
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Originally Posted by HJam72 (Post 2027958)
Nobody's telling individual players not to play well. Something isn't right with the O-Line, and it's not just the right side, either. Something is....not bad, but just not as effective as before. Wasn't there a rule change of some kind effecting the backside blocks?

Per Football Outsiders, the Texans currently ranked 4th on run to left end (this may involve the blocking of a TE, a WR, and a FB, or a pull by a lineman - could be the C, could be a G.) They ran 18% of the time this way.

They ranked 10th on run off right tackle (with the RG Guard often involved, as well the FB.) They ran 12% of the time here.

They ranked 17th up the middle, running 48% through these gaps.

They ranked 20th to right end, 12% of the time.

And finally, they ranked 29th off left tackle (with the LG often involved).
They ran here only 9% of the time for an average of 1.98 ypc.

From these numbers, we can see that so far the stretch plays work better to the left.

On the other hand, the inside zone plays are more successful to the right.

Why, I'm not totally sure.

76Texan 10-04-2012 03:21 PM

Re: Is Wade phliips holding back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelm (Post 2027946)
Yes, I think the coaching staff has made a strategic decision to stay in their base packages for the most part, until a team starts to beat it.

And I believe that is true for offense, for the most part, as well as defense.

The only exception offensively was when they started the game against the jags with several screen plays in a row. I thought it worked well, but it seemed strange to me at the time.

I don't necessarily think that Wade has been holding back.
If I remember correctly, I think we blitzed the young QBs more.
And also, when we accumulated a big lead (which happened every game so far), we scaled back.

On offense, I remember reading a piece about Kubiak scripting plays while he was with the Broncos (we're doing the same thing here - about 15 plays.)
Basically, we work on a number of plays (or rather a number of sets of play) every week; game-planning differently against different opponents.
If the script works well, we stay with it; if it doesn't, we adjust.
Kubiak also said that once in a while, he would throw the script out of the window when it seems that the defense was well prepared for it.

HJam72 10-04-2012 03:22 PM

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LG getting old? :shrug:


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