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Yankee_In_TX 08-17-2012 02:09 PM

Keeper Advice
 
I can keep 2, below are the ones worth considering and what I would give up for them:

2 - Julio Jones
4 - Vernon Davis
5 - Matt Forte (thinking heck no)
9 - Steve Smith
10 - Tony Gonzalez
12 - A.J. Green
15 - Andy Dalton
(last round is 15)

I have my thoughts but want to see what others thing.

Dutchrudder 08-17-2012 02:21 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Can't we just have one thread for all trade/keeper/waiver questions, and another for "rate my team"?

Anyways, AJ Green in round 12 is a steal. Definite keeper.

I would be torn between Forte and Steve Smith. Forte is going to be a 3rd round pick at the latest this year, so getting him for a 5th is a steal too. Steve Smith though, had an awesome year, but the Panthers didn't really do anything to improve their offense this year. Also, he trended downward as the season went on and defense learned how to stop Cam.

I'd go with Forte and Green, two weekly starters for sure.

Playoffs 08-17-2012 04:03 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Green and Forte.

Yankee_In_TX 08-17-2012 05:26 PM

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Hmmm, much higher props than I thought for Forte.... He screwed me last season.... Felt like he played a lot fewer than 12 games...

stingray 08-17-2012 05:53 PM

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A.J. Green and JulioJones hands down. No doubt in my mind. These two guys are the future Calvin Johnson and Andre Johnson of the NFL.

stingray 08-17-2012 05:54 PM

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Why do you have to give up a second rounder for Julio? Did you draft him in the second last year?

jaayteetx 08-17-2012 08:07 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Forte and Green.

Yankee_In_TX 08-17-2012 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stingray (Post 1996655)
Why do you have to give up a second rounder for Julio? Did you draft him in the second last year?

We do 2 rounds higher from where the player was drafted - so you can't keep the same guy year after year. For the scoring in my league, 2nd round if kind of high for a WR....

Dutchrudder 08-19-2012 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX (Post 1996700)
We do 2 rounds higher from where the player was drafted - so you can't keep the same guy year after year. For the scoring in my league, 2nd round if kind of high for a WR....

It is high, especially on a team that has a #1 WR established. Julio should have a great year, probably 1000-1200 yards and 6-9 TDs, but that can be found in rounds 3-5 also, he just happens to be hyped up this year. I always go by the rule of never draft a WR in the first two rounds. WR is always a deep position, RB and QB are not, so I focus on those in the first two. TEs are a dime a dozen as well and can be gotten in the 5-7 rounds. Green in round 12 is just awesome, easily a 1000 yard guy in a pass-first offense. Great drafting there, but I honestly don't see him being that different from Julio. With one WR and RB spot filled, you can go after other starters early and make a great team.

badboy 08-19-2012 03:31 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX (Post 1996522)
I can keep 2, below are the ones worth considering and what I would give up for them:

2 - Julio Jones
4 - Vernon Davis
5 - Matt Forte (thinking heck no)
9 - Steve Smith
10 - Tony Gonzalez
12 - A.J. Green
15 - Andy Dalton
(last round is 15)

I have my thoughts but want to see what others thing.

I have no interest in FF but Julio Jones and Andy Dalton should have excellent seasons.

Lucky 08-19-2012 07:49 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaayteetx (Post 1996695)
Forte and Green.

Ditto. That's a no brainer, really.

Say Watt 08-19-2012 09:00 PM

In our league, it looks like we aren't losing a pick for our one keeper. Instead, we get as many entries into the drawing for the #1 pick as the round number our keeper was chosen in.

So I'm trying to decide what to do. I could make Cam Newton my keeper and get like 15 entries for the #1 pick, but there is no guarantee. My other choice would be Ray Rice, but I'd only get 1 entry with him.

What say you? Should I go with Rice or Newton? Only other possible choices are MJD chosen in round 2, Jordy Nelson in round 13, or Darren McFadden chosen in round 3. Thoughts?

Yankee_In_TX 08-20-2012 11:00 AM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Forte in the 5th >>>> Dalton in the 15th?

Yankee_In_TX 08-20-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Say Watt (Post 1997896)
In our league, it looks like we aren't losing a pick for our one keeper. Instead, we get as many entries into the drawing for the #1 pick as the round number our keeper was chosen in.

So I'm trying to decide what to do. I could make Cam Newton my keeper and get like 15 entries for the #1 pick, but there is no guarantee. My other choice would be Ray Rice, but I'd only get 1 entry with him.

What say you? Should I go with Rice or Newton? Only other possible choices are MJD chosen in round 2, Jordy Nelson in round 13, or Darren McFadden chosen in round 3. Thoughts?

So the incentive is the later round your keeper the higher the chance to get the #1 pick?

Does that ONLY affect the #1 pick or the entire draft order?

Depending on how your league scores I would take Rice or MJD over a QB or WR.

Dutchrudder 08-20-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX (Post 1998171)
Forte in the 5th >>>> Dalton in the 15th?

Yes, starters always trump backups. You can get a better QB in the 4th with Peyton, Schaub or Eli.

gtexan02 08-20-2012 11:04 AM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
The nice thing about keeping Dalton in the 15th is that next year you can have him in the 13th, then the 11th, etc. You can keep him long term.
Forte in the 5th means he is a 3rd next year and then a 1st the year after. Then he cant be kept, right?

So how long term are you thinking here?

Dutchrudder 08-20-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX (Post 1998172)
So the incentive is the later round your keeper the higher the chance to get the #1 pick?

Does that ONLY affect the #1 pick of the entire draft order?

Depending on how your league scores I would take Rice or MJD over a QB or WR.

Yeah I don't understand this method of drafting at all Cody. Are you saying you can Keep Ray Rice and still get a first round pick?? If so, do that. Rice is a top 3 pick IMO and worth it regardless of what pick you get in the first.

Yankee_In_TX 08-20-2012 11:23 AM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02 (Post 1998174)
The nice thing about keeping Dalton in the 15th is that next year you can have him in the 13th, then the 11th, etc. You can keep him long term.
Forte in the 5th means he is a 3rd next year and then a 1st the year after. Then he cant be kept, right?

So how long term are you thinking here?

I don't know, I may be on notice. I think this is year 8 and my name is not on the trophy. I may fire me if this year doesn't go well. Even my wife is on the trophy.

Yankee_In_TX 08-20-2012 11:24 AM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 1998177)
Yeah I don't understand this method of drafting at all Cody. Are you saying you can Keep Ray Rice and still get a first round pick?? If so, do that. Rice is a top 3 pick IMO and worth it regardless of what pick you get in the first.

^^^^^
what he said

(though I would consider MJD depending on his contract situation at the time of your draft)

Yankee_In_TX 08-23-2012 07:45 PM

Re: Keeper Advice
 
Looking at stats, Dalton didn't do well last year and is not projected to do well this year, maybe 20-25th overall QB.

Forte is projected to be 4 or 5th overall RB.... I'm keeping Forte.


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