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Brandon420tx 03-10-2012 09:25 PM

Moving up to 18
 
If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

Dutchrudder 03-10-2012 10:36 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Definitely willing to give up a 3rd this year, or a 2nd next year to do that. But they could give up the 2nd and move up higher than 18.

Wolf6151 03-11-2012 12:57 AM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
If I'm moving up from #26 to #18 it's going to be for something that I absolutely can't get at #26 and this is a very deep draft for WR's. I like Floyd better than Blackmon, but I'd have a hard time trading up for him when I'd be happy taking Stephen Hill at #26. I don't think there's anyone in this draft that I'd trade up for other than Morris Claiborne-CB but there's no way he falls out of the top 10.

otisbean 03-11-2012 08:04 AM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon420tx (Post 1913128)
If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

Im a huge Floyd fan. This guy is a damn good FB player, if we can trade our third and grab him Im all for it.

otisbean 03-11-2012 08:05 AM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon420tx (Post 1913128)
If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

I'd be willing to part with our 1st and 3rd pick this year. I've been on record saying there are tons of players the Texans could select between rounds 2 and 3 this Draft, and would be in major favor of getting as many picks as I could in that time frame, including trading out of the first and up from the 4th, but this is the only scenario I could think of for moving up in the first. Michael Floyd would put our offense over the top ... if we bring back Myers, and either find an effective backup plan for Brisiel or bring him back.

Im a huge Floyd fan. This guy is a damn good FB player, if we can trade our third and grab him Im all for it. I think the Chargers are looking for a pass rusher so swapping with them could be possible as Perry, Branch, Mercilus ect... could very well be there at 26.

Lucky 03-11-2012 09:24 AM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon420tx (Post 1913128)
If Michael Floyd fell down to the Chargers pick (18) what would you give to move up to select him right in front of the Bears? Even less likely would be DeCastro falling to 18, but I doubt the Chargers would pass on a chance to take him if he did.

Why would the Chargers pass on Floyd? Their losing their top wideout in free agency (Vincent Jackson). They need a WR a hellava lot more than the Texans do.

Brandon420tx 03-11-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
I thought about that as well, the most obvious answer is to avoid the confusion of a Floyd and Floyd receiving backfield, .... and y'know .... extra picks. They actually need alot of help in alot of areas.

WR, OG, OT, OLB, ILB, S, and CB. They really really need an OLB more than a WR though. Their pass rush has been non existent for some time now

mussop 03-11-2012 01:35 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
I think Floyd will go top 14. I don't see us drafting a WR in the first. But to answer your question, yes I would trade up if he fell. I just think we will have to trade way up for Floyd.

mussop 03-11-2012 01:39 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 1913210)
Why would the Chargers pass on Floyd? Their losing their top wideout in free agency (Vincent Jackson). They need a WR a hellava lot more than the Texans do.

SD needs a pass rusher right now more than anything.

Brandon420tx 03-11-2012 01:48 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Anything earlier than 16 would probably cost too much.
16 Jets: Probably want more value to jump back 10 spots
17 Bengals: Already have 2 firsts, lots a needs, don't see them trading
18 Chargers: Lots of needs, can still pick up a valuable player at 26 not much of a trade back to them
19 Bears: They'd take Floyd before we could call them.

If Floyd makes it past the Cardinals and Jets I can honestly see him falling to the Bears.

badboy 03-11-2012 08:31 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
If Bears took Floyd @ 19 what teams between them & Texans would draft Wright? Could he slide to 26?

Brandon420tx 03-11-2012 08:36 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Maybe Cleveland

Dutchrudder 03-11-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon420tx (Post 1913505)
Maybe Cleveland

I don't see Cleveland taking Wright. They need a true #1 guy, not just a speedster. It would be a weird pick for that organization.

badboy 03-11-2012 09:22 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
So you see Wright maybe @#26? I'd take him over Hill.

Corrosion 03-11-2012 09:25 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1913181)
If I'm moving up from #26 to #18 it's going to be for something that I absolutely can't get at #26 and this is a very deep draft for WR's. I like Floyd better than Blackmon, but I'd have a hard time trading up for him when I'd be happy taking Stephen Hill at #26. I don't think there's anyone in this draft that I'd trade up for other than Morris Claiborne-CB but there's no way he falls out of the top 10.

I think the drop off from Blackmon & Floyd Vs the rest of the WR's is significant .... Hill , Jeffery and Randel arent in their class. You cant get that quality at #26.

Blackmon or Floyd will start from day one .... I dont believe those behind them in the pecking order will, they may be the #3 guy's on the teams they go to.

Floyd has alot of questionmarks off the field .... but on the field he's a beast. I'd probably give up a 3rd to move up ....and I'd think about a 2nd. :thinking:

Blake 03-12-2012 02:28 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Floyd has a checkered past IMO. I wouldnt trade anything for him. Hell, I'd think twice about taking him at 26.

Goldensilence 03-12-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
If all I had to do was swap a 3rd to move up for Floyd? A third for what might be the piece on this offense that takes them to elite? No Question I'd do it.

aussie_texan 03-12-2012 07:15 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
floyd is the best WR in this draft. if it weren't for his off-field issues he would be a top 7 pick. He'll end up being the best WR from this draft and a pro bowler for many years.

I would trade my 3 and 5th easily for this guy with out a blink of an eye lid

steelbtexan 03-12-2012 07:20 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
I would give up a 1st and 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr.

Reason: Floyd is a great WR and great WR's dont come cheap.

skenney_11 03-12-2012 07:23 PM

Re: Moving up to 18
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 1914292)
I would give up a 1st and 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr.

Reason: Floyd is a great WR and great WR's dont come cheap.

Amen. I think we will have to trade up to the 14th pick for floyd


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