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Maddict5 02-08-2012 05:11 AM

Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
We all love him and for a while there it seemed like he was destined for canton but when you see guys like carter and reed cant make it, does aj have a realistic shot at getting in esp with the way the league is getting pass happy and more wrs are putting up prolific numbers

carter: 1101 rec, 13,899 yds, 130 tds
aj: 706 rec, 9656 yds, 52 tds

tbh eventhough he should have a few good seasons left, i cant see him making it (as much as I want him to). imo his lack of tds will hurt him when its all time to make his case.....

Thorn 02-08-2012 07:31 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
From what he's done so far? No.

But he has the talent if he can keep it going without more injuries and the Texans win some playoff games WITH his help.

El Tejano 02-08-2012 07:33 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by Maddict5 (Post 1896653)
We all love him and for a while there it seemed like he was destined for canton but when you see guys like carter and reed cant make it, does aj have a realistic shot at getting in esp with the way the league is getting pass happy and more wrs are putting up prolific numbers

carter: 1101 rec, 13,899 yds, 130 tds
aj: 706 rec, 9656 yds, 52 tds

tbh eventhough he should have a few good seasons left, i cant see him making it (as much as I want him to). imo his lack of tds will hurt him when its all time to make his case.....

The argument can be made that he did most of that while spending 4 years with David Carr at QB.

I think Carter doesn't make it because of his past. Which sux because there are some punks in that HOF but because they played in New York etc....they get in.

IMO Andre is alot like Earl Campbell, he doesn't have quite the playoff success but he's got the stats that do not lie and great things happened for Earl because Earl did great things for others.

Texanmike02 02-08-2012 07:38 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
He wasn't just a game chagner, he was a gname changer. Yes he gets in. Ask Innegan.

Mike

El Tejano 02-08-2012 07:55 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
We could also argue that AJ was on a team that had one of the worse offensive lines in history (QB is guilty for that too).

IDEXAN 02-08-2012 08:13 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Bet the bank on it !
AJ right now in his career is a marginal selection for the NFL HOF, but there's this little thing called politics, which is always with us. The thing is the Texans have now been in existance for 10 years and owner Bob McNair will put pressure on the league to admit the first member to the Hall from his franchise. And nobody else, present or past Texan player, is nearly as qualified as AJ.
I'm thinking that it's a 5 year waiting period after a player finishes his career before he's eligible for election to the HOF, so it will be 15 years + before the Texans have their first HOFamer. You can count on it, AJ goes in as soon as he's eligible.

TheIronDuke 02-08-2012 08:15 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Maybe if he could actually put a couple of injury-free seasons together but I highly doubt that'll happen.

Texan_Bill 02-08-2012 09:08 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
You mean like 5 of his 9 seasons that he played all 16 games and in two of the 4 years that he didn't, he played in 13. He's only had two seasons that he missed major time. This past season and in 2007 missing 9 and 7 games respectively.

Thats not that bad for someone who plays as physically as AJ does. Ask that linebacker from Arizona and Innegan.

HOU-TEX 02-08-2012 09:20 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Love me some AJ, but no, he's not a HOFer at this point. If Chris Carter and Tim Brown can't make it in, how will AJ?

They both have over 100 TDs. AJ barely has over 50. His reception and yardage number should be on par after a few more seasons. But his TD numbers will never catch up to HOF type numbers. He'll have to kick ass in the yardage department in order to make it in, imo.

I'm in no way blaming AJ for the lack of TD production. We all know what he's had to deal with in his career

Texan_Bill 02-08-2012 09:23 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1896716)
Love me some AJ, but no, he's not a HOFer at this point. If Chris Carter and Tim Brown can't make it in, how will AJ?

They both have over 100 TDs. AJ barely has over 50. His reception and yardage number should be on par after a few more seasons. But his TD numbers will never catch up to HOF type numbers. He'll have to kick ass in the yardage department in order to make it in, imo.

I'm in no way blaming AJ for the lack of TD production. We all know what he's had to deal with in his career

Don't..... Don't..... Don't say it! :headhurts:

HOU-TEX 02-08-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill (Post 1896717)
Don't..... Don't..... Don't say it! :headhurts:

Oooh trust me, I'm not. I get the rumbling feeling of a regurgitation when I think of those wasted years.

TEXANRED 02-08-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
No. AJ is not in the top 25 in receptions. Also if Tim Brown (14th) and Cris Carter (3rd) are not in the hall of fame then you have to figure you are going to have to be better than those guys to make it in or have some rings like Michael Irving.

TheCD 02-08-2012 09:40 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by TEXANRED (Post 1896720)
No. AJ is not in the top 25 in receptions. Also if Tim Brown (14th) and Cris Carter (3rd) are not in the hall of fame then you have to figure you are going to have to be better than those guys to make it in or have some rings like Michael Irving.

I think his case is marginal as of right now, as well. But let's not forget that he is currently the all-time leader in YPG. In my opion, that speaks volumes over his lack of TDs considering the offenses he has worked with in the past.

The downside I can see right now is that he didn't take over in the playoffs like Fitzgerald did. Voters are finniky and won't care who the QB was. These guys want "I am playing like they need to invent an even more competitive league" performances. That, and they're just stupid sometimes with their reasoning of why certain guys shouldn't get in.

Texan_Bill 02-08-2012 09:44 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1896719)
Oooh trust me, I'm not. I get the rumbling feeling of a regurgitation when I think of those wasted years.

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Vinny 02-08-2012 09:50 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
not if he keeps missing games. He's a shewbiedo in otherwise.

gary 02-08-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Fitzgerald had Warner and AJ had Yates.

Double Barrel 02-08-2012 11:12 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1896716)
Love me some AJ, but no, he's not a HOFer at this point. If Chris Carter and Tim Brown can't make it in, how will AJ?

They both have over 100 TDs. AJ barely has over 50. His reception and yardage number should be on par after a few more seasons. But his TD numbers will never catch up to HOF type numbers. He'll have to kick ass in the yardage department in order to make it in, imo.

I'm in no way blaming AJ for the lack of TD production. We all know what he's had to deal with in his career

My thoughts, as well.

My heart says yes, but my mind says no. The HoF voters are clearly biased against WRs right now, and that trend will only continue as the NFL has changed rules to become a pass happy league. And if Chris Carter / Tim Brown are not in with their careers achieved before these pass-friendly revisions, I just don't see the voters giving AJ a pass.

And by the time AJ retires and waits his 5 years, there will most likely be a bottle-neck of WRs waiting to get in.

I hate to say it, but unless the HoF voters feel sorry for H-town (which is doubtful), I think AJ will have to wait a very long time to be inducted.

IlliniJen 02-08-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
Not one year with double digit TDs...compared to the WRs of this era, he's not producing the numbers. WE know he's great, but he's been hamstrung by ****ty QBs, conservative offensive playcalling in the red zone and injuries. He'll need a few transcendent years of being the best WR in the league in order to get in, unfortunately.

False Start 02-08-2012 11:32 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
I really want to say yes, but I think it will take awhile. He will get the Chris Carter treatment.

HOU-TEX 02-08-2012 11:47 AM

Re: Realistically, is AJ going to the hall of fame??
 
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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill (Post 1896731)

:spit: Yeah, a lot of that too!


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