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CloakNNNdagger 01-12-2012 10:30 AM

NFL Network No Huddle says Yates Will Be Rattled
 
VIDEO

Double Barrel 01-12-2012 10:37 AM

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I saw that last night. They've got some solid points, because this is the kind of game that could overwhelm a rookie QB. Looking over center and seeing Ray Lewis, even at his advanced age, is something that could rattle just about anyone, much less a rook.

However, the great thing about this team is that TJ doesn't have to carry the load. He just needs to avoid costly mistakes and get the ball to our playmakers. With AJ, Foster, Daniels and the cast around them, they can do this, especially if our defense can stop Rice and force Flacco into making some mistakes.

They are underdogs, but the Ravens have not won the game, yet! That's why they play the game, and regardless of these 'experts', anything is possible.

cuppacoffee 01-12-2012 10:37 AM

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Maybe..maybe not.


The rook is getting some great experience and the Kubes is getting valuable insight into what we have in Yates.

Personally I think Yates is progressing pretty good from game to game.

Maybe he can give the talking heads another QB to talk about.


:coffee:

Dutchrudder 01-12-2012 10:39 AM

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Yates Will Be Rattled
Well yeah, it's an away game against one of the best defenses in the league. He had it easy playing at home last week, now we will see what he's made of. This game will likely be a defensive struggle, as both teams have offenses that have stumbled at times during the regular season.

In any case, I really don't think Flacco is much of a threat. He may wind up being the best Texans player of the game if he throws a few INTs. He's had some bad games this year against good defenses, so I'm hoping our pass rush will rattle him and force him to make mistakes.

OntRavenFan 01-12-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 1877892)
Well yeah, it's an away game against one of the best defenses in the league. He had it easy playing at home last week, now we will see what he's made of. This game will likely be a defensive struggle, as both teams have offenses that have stumbled at times during the regular season.

In any case, I really don't think Flacco is much of a threat. He may wind up being the best Texans player of the game if he throws a few INTs. He's had some bad games this year against good defenses, so I'm hoping our pass rush will rattle him and force him to make mistakes.

Well Cool Joe is no different than any other QB. You have to be able to get the pressue. With our O-line at 100% that could be easier said than done. This year Joe was sacked the least amount of times in his 4 year career which to me means our O-line is better than it ever has been.

Thorn 01-12-2012 10:48 AM

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Until we play SanFran in the Super Bowl, this is the best defense we'll see the rest of this season. Yates is proving to be a very solid backup, but he's no Schaub yet. If Schaub was still in this, I'd say we have an excellent chance of beating the Ravens. With Yates, at best all I can say is the old standby - Any Given Sunday. We can beat the Ravens with Yates, it's just it's a tougher match with Yates than with Schaub.

welsh texan 01-12-2012 10:54 AM

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Yates' poise has been his biggest strength since coming in imo. He looks the part out there and doesn't seem to get rattled. I think him getting rattled is of far less concern than his ability to step up into the pocket and find AJ deep a couple of times early on.

I forget which game it was where Schaub threw the deep bomb for AJ first play of the game (either last season or the year before) for a TD but I'd love them to wheel out a repeat again in this one.

The key, as I see it, is to force teams to respect the pass first, and that is a whole lot easier with AJ suited up. I've watched our running game stumble somewhat towards the end of the regular season, and I can't help but think thats because our Offense sans-Johnson is one dimensional, and if you put enough resources into stopping the run, you'll get there eventually.

Now that AJ is back in, Yates has that option and it will be imperative that we force the Ravens to respect that if we are to then get the running game going, and then hammer home with the play-action.

IDEXAN 01-12-2012 11:00 AM

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I wonder if the Ravens will employ heavy blitz-pressure or rely on a 4-man rush ? Of course AJs presense might be a big factor in their decision about which way to go in this strategy ?

Hardcore Texan 01-12-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OntRavenFan (Post 1877901)
Well Cool Joe is no different than any other QB. You have to be able to get the pressue. With our O-line at 100% that could be easier said than done. This year Joe was sacked the least amount of times in his 4 year career which to me means our O-line is better than it ever has been.

That's an interesting stat considering Flacco has thrown for a career low 57% completion percentage this year.

I don't think the Ravens have much of an edge in the QB department. While Baltimore could very well be my 2nd favorite team and I have much respect for them. I don't think much of Flacco.

I think this is going to be a great game, I think it will be decided by a FG and could go either way. It's a very tall order to play the Ravens on the road in the playoffs, but I think our team suprises everyone and it comes down to late in the 4th quarter.

Perki-Perk 01-12-2012 11:00 AM

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I think NFLN is rattled by the Texans success this season, they have progressively got worse at reporting on football since the Texans stormed in and said, "We will not quit, we will not back down, we will persevere, we will continue to play above the standard, NEXT MAN UP!"

Dutchrudder 01-12-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OntRavenFan (Post 1877901)
Well Cool Joe is no different than any other QB. You have to be able to get the pressue. With our O-line at 100% that could be easier said than done. This year Joe was sacked the least amount of times in his 4 year career which to me means our O-line is better than it ever has been.

Did you read that on a blog somewhere? His sack numbers going from 2008 to 2011: 32, 36, 40, 31 (33 given up on the year)

Not exactly a huge difference from other years. Flacco is the same QB he was last year, and the year before, and the year before that. Look at his numbers:

Year Comp Att % Yards Avg TD INT Fum QBR
2009 315 499 63.1 3,613 7.24 21 12 6 88.9
2010 306 489 62.6 3,622 7.41 25 10 7 93.6
2011 312 542 57.6 3,610 6.66 20 12 9 80.9


Nothing has changed, he's just as beatable this year as he was before. He hasn't gotten any better, but on the upside he hasn't gotten any worse.

Thorn 01-12-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Perki-Perk (Post 1877925)
I think NFLN is rattled by the Texans success this season, they have progressively got worse at reporting on football since the Texans stormed in and said, "We will not quit, we will not back down, we will persevere, we will continue to play above the standard, NEXT MAN UP!"

I guarantee you that if the Texans make the playoffs next year, that will change forever. Once you "become relevant", you stay that way for a long while in the media. But until you "become relevant", you're not.

TheCD 01-12-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by welsh texan (Post 1877914)
I forget which game it was where Schaub threw the deep bomb for AJ first play of the game (either last season or the year before) for a TD but I'd love them to wheel out a repeat again in this one.

Texans/Seahawks '09 (Only game I've been able to attend).

Texan_Bill 01-12-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 1877888)
I saw that last night. They've got some solid points, because this is the kind of game that could overwhelm a rookie QB. Looking over center and seeing Ray Lewis, even at his advanced age, is something that could rattle just about anyone, much less a rook.

However, the great thing about this team is that TJ doesn't have to carry the load. He just needs to avoid costly mistakes and get the ball to our playmakers. With AJ, Foster, Daniels and the cast around them, they can do this, especially if our defense can stop Rice and force Flacco into making some mistakes.

They are underdogs, but the Ravens have not won the game, yet! That's why they play the game, and regardless of these 'experts', anything is possible.

Is that how we describe ourselves now? "Advanced age"?

I like it. :handshake:

Perki-Perk 01-12-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 1877934)
I guarantee you that if the Texans make the playoffs next year, that will change forever. Once you "become relevant", you stay that way for a long while in the media. But until you "become relevant", you're not.

That's what I've been trying to explain to people who get upset that we aren't getting more coverage. Our team has to actually do something first, or be interesting.

CloakNNNdagger 01-12-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 1877926)
Did you read that on a blog somewhere? His sack numbers going from 2008 to 2011: 32, 36, 40, 31 (33 given up on the year)

Not exactly a huge difference from other years. Flacco is the same QB he was last year, and the year before, and the year before that. Look at his numbers:

Year Comp Att % Yards Avg TD INT Fum QBR
2009 315 499 63.1 3,613 7.24 21 12 6 88.9
2010 306 489 62.6 3,622 7.41 25 10 7 93.6
2011 312 542 57.6 3,610 6.66 20 12 9 80.9


Nothing has changed,
he's just as beatable this year as he was before. He hasn't gotten any better, but on the upside he hasn't gotten any worse.


I agree that he is just as beatable. But going from a pass completion rate of 63.1% in '09 to 57.6% this year is significant.

Hardcore Texan 01-12-2012 11:11 AM

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I just watched the video and I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!!

All 4 of them picked the Ravens to win, just like everyone else. The Ravens have everything to lose and no one expected the Texans to be here.

I love the underdog role, keep feeding the fire baby! This team is just as hungry as the Ravens are and I don't think the talking heads are giving that any consideration.

OntRavenFan 01-12-2012 11:12 AM

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I don't recall saying he suddenly woke up an "Elite" QB.

His numbers dipped this year. Absolutely.

By the numbers I guess that makes him more consistent than he's give credit for?

By comparison he's no worse than Brady or Brees in their first 4 years (5 years for Brees if you consider he didn't start his rookie year).

I said he had the lowest # of sacks in his 4 years. 31 is less than 32 which was his rookie year. I attibuted this to the O-Line being better, not Joe suddenly becoming the second coming of Cam Newton and rushing for 700 yards or something or Becoming Brees and throwing for 5000+ yards.

drunkcookie 01-12-2012 11:29 AM

They better have the landscapers/field repair guys on site in Baltimore Sunday, because Flacco's facemask will have chewed up half the field before the 4th quarter... Wait...it's field turf...

Screw you Baltimore, you ruin my jokes... But must say, the Cracker Barrel between there and Wilmington was the best I've ever eaten... Literally, i ate the whole place... I love you, Baltimore!

Dread-Head 01-12-2012 11:49 AM

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If I'm Kubiak I'm going in there using a Sun Tzu tactic. Sun Tzu went faced an army five times larger than the one he had. He convinced his men they were going to die anyway and to take as many of the enemy with him as they could. I'd say something like:

"The Ravens think they've won this already, their FANS think they've won this already. The MEDIA is already trying to decide if THEY are going to play New England or Teblow next week. Since the media says we done for...F#*K it. Let's go down swiging. Corners...bump the ISHT out of those receivers. Get between them and that football when it's in the air and if you can't OBLITERATE the SOBS if they DO catch it. If one of your boys has a runner wrapped up but you don't hear a wistle pretend he's a steak and you're a starving dog and make a bee-line for him...and try to knock the ball out.

Offense take the underneath stuff. Chip away at them and take the clock down. Play like this will be the last game of your career. If this IS how you're going out how do you want to remembered?

IF they win...IF they get the W that everyone has given them already let them look at you through at least one black eye as they're shaking your hand and let them limp into next week's game against either Brady or Teblow. IF they take a W today, go on to win the Superbowl and eventually make it to the hall of fame, let them remember that to get there they took an asswhipping from the Houston Texans in the hardest fought game of their entire careers. Gentlemen...let's play some damn football."


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