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silvrhand 01-03-2012 09:31 PM

Demps - wow what a bad game
 
Just finished rewatching the game, man Demps got rocked all game long..

jtexas 01-03-2012 10:08 PM

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Demps, Jackson, and surprisingly Cushing were bad in coverage. Cush was beat on two 20 yard passes. Jackson gave up 3 for 65 yards. Lets see who shows up when it really matters.

silvrhand 01-03-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jtexas (Post 1869989)
Demps, Jackson, and surprisingly Cushing were bad in coverage. Cush was beat on two 20 yard passes. Jackson gave up 3 for 65 yards. Lets see who shows up when it really matters.

The only big play was the 55 yard perfect bomb, could have done better looking back, but he was right there, the throw was pretty much perfect.

TimeKiller 01-04-2012 08:20 AM

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I just hope they learn that Chris Johnson demands a CB in coverage. Not a safety. Not a LBer. When he splits out, cover him like he's a really, really fast WR instead of a really, really fast RB.

silvrhand 01-04-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeKiller (Post 1870091)
I just hope they learn that Chris Johnson demands a CB in coverage. Not a safety. Not a LBer. When he splits out, cover him like he's a really, really fast WR instead of a really, really fast RB.

Their TE was beating us up badly too.. which is not good if we end up facing the Patriots..

BigBull17 01-04-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by silvrhand (Post 1870107)
Their TE was beating us up badly too.. which is not good if we end up facing the Patriots..

Good thing the next offense the Patriots stop will be the first.

amazing80 01-04-2012 02:18 PM

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I am not sure why Demps is even playing TBH, the guy is terrible in coverage and has been the whole time

machineo 01-04-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by silvrhand (Post 1870107)
Their TE was beating us up badly too.. which is not good if we end up facing the Patriots..

Cook is 6'5" and runs a 4.5 and his college coach compared him to Calvin Johnson. Those TEs beat up everyone badly and the league will be seeing more of this mold of TE until a genius DC can figure out how to stop them with players who are either a lot slower or a lot smaller.

I don't see Demps as anything but a warm body taking a spot until they find someone with more promise. He's not a returner and over the last few weeks has forgotten how tackle and how to keep his footing .

76Texan 01-04-2012 03:47 PM

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There's a reason why Demps is a back-up.

He's better than Barber and Bushing without the upside of Nolan.

His play has been decent (could even be said as pretty good) until the last few games.

thunderkyss 01-04-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jtexas (Post 1869989)
Demps, Jackson, and surprisingly Cushing were bad in coverage. Cush was beat on two 20 yard passes. Jackson gave up 3 for 65 yards. Lets see who shows up when it really matters.

Do we expect to not give up any passing yards? 2 for 20? 3 for 65?

I watched the other games Sunday, the Cowboys would have loved it if there worse corner gave up 3 for 65 & so would many other teams.

Grass is green, water is wet, WRs catch balls.

76Texan 01-05-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1870793)
Do we expect to not give up any passing yards? 2 for 20? 3 for 65?

I watched the other games Sunday, the Cowboys would have loved it if there worse corner gave up 3 for 65 & so would many other teams.

Grass is green, water is wet, WRs catch balls.

It was a good pass and a good catch on that long bomb.
It was decent coverage, but I do think that KJ needs to do better on that play.
He was in phase, I'd have liked to see him running the receiver's route.
All in the learning curve, but yeah, I do think it would have been better if he can be more pro-active on certain situation, like this one.
The game is played in inches and fractions of a second.
You want to make it count. Beat your opponent to the punch, as Madden loves to say.

(Note that KJ did put a hurt on the receiver, letting him know that yeah you got me, but I'm still here. You're going to earn it.)

Surely and certainly, Jackson still needs to improve.
But before some of you guys start piling on him again, I need to let you know - in case you haven't read LZ's blog recently - that his view regarding Allen/Jackson has taken a turn.


...Jason Allen makes mistakes and he also makes plays. He can drive you crazy on one play and then turn the offense over on the next. Hes not consistent enough to be a starter on a good playoff team, but he is quality depth for the Texans....


Duh, that was the whole point, and I give LanceZ kudo for being a good sport in realizing that his prognosis was off. (In case you don't know, Lance put the case for Allen to be the starter during the off-season.)

Now, you can read into the part where he talks about KJ however you like;
I will refrain from commenting.

(I've always said that Lance has good football knowledge, but I do disagree with him on certain takes from time to time.)

To the poster who said he would take LanceZ's words above my thousands of screenshots, hey, perhaps you want to reconsider it now!?!

PHAROAH 01-05-2012 09:56 AM

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The safety position is a serious need in the upcoming draft and Demps will be a casualty of the play that has been displayed through out the season.


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