Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com

Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   Texans Talk (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56)
-   -   So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously? (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88296)

Playoffs 12-27-2011 06:30 PM

So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Kubiak deserves a standing ovation

Jerome Solomon



Come on Houston, we’re better than that.

I have been as hard on the guy as anyone in town because he was only good and average (and sometimes below that) in his first five years as a head coach. But to overly criticize him for the work he has done this season is a bit much.

I’m not saying he deserves blind worship. No coach is above being questioned.

I don’t think Kubiak made the right move in not playing Andre Johnson against the Colts. (See Andre’s answer to my question about how rusty he was in his first game back from injury earlier this season and you know it is no small deal that he gets some run before the playoffs begin.)

I will also question him on Sunday if Jake Delhomme doesn’t get a few snaps against the Titans. (Kubiak’s answer to my question about that possibility indicated he doesn’t plan too.)

But if you don’t realize that Kubiak is coaching his you-know-what off this year, you’re not paying attention.

From Day 1, I have said that (as is the case with any competent person) Kubiak is getting better at his job daily. There was no noticeable improvement last year and I don’t think he did a great job. I would have fired him two years ago. But I am impatient like that.

See what the Green Bay Packers and New England Patriots are doing this year with horrid defenses and you get my point that the Texans’ high-powered offense last year wasn’t nearly the great offense most made it out to be. Even with a terrible defense, better coaching last year would have delivered something better than a 6-10 record.

But I don’t know if anyone – Lombardi, Landry, Walsh, you name him – could have gotten more than 10-5 out of this Texans team. Yes, the loss to Indy was beyond embarrassing, but I’m not going to lay blame solely at the head coach’s feet.

The Texans have lost two games in a row, but give ‘em a break. Kubiak has led his team to a 3-2 record without his starting quarterback and less than a half with his No. 2 QB.

That deserves praise. Period. And I’m no homer.

The hands-down coach of the year is Jim Harbaugh. I likes me some Harbaugh. I don’t know if I have ever been more impressed in an initial meeting with a coach than I was when I met and talked to him at Stanford last year.

He has done a great job with the 49ers.

But don’t let the possible unanimous vote for that award fool you. Kubiak has done a great (not good) job with the Texans this season. Possibly even a better job than Harbaugh has with the 49ers. Check that. My man Harbaugh has Alex Smith at quarterback. There is no competition.

But give Kubiak some love too.

Pro Football Weekly does an interesting team injury ranking. At No. 8, the Texans are the “highest” ranking playoff team on the injury list.

The 49ers rank 32nd on that list. That isn’t coaching. That’s just luck, which, as I have mentioned before, is a key coaching component.

You don’t think the Texans would be at least 12-3, as is San Francisco, if Matt Schaub, Mario Williams, Andre Johnson, Danieal Manning and Arian Foster had not been injured this season? Please.

Still, despite all the injuries, Kubiak has a division-winning team that is about to win its 11th game and should be favored to win a home playoff game with a fifth-round rookie quarterback running the offense.

Stand your butts up and clap, Houston.


http://blog.chron.com/jeromesolomon/...nding-ovation/

ThaShark316 12-27-2011 06:35 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Kubiak went from "he should be coach of the year" to "fire him/no wade, no glory". http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1098/snoopfacepalm.png

Texecutioner 12-27-2011 07:07 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 1865306)
Kubiak went from "he should be coach of the year" to "fire him/no wade, no glory". http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1098/snoopfacepalm.png

Can we get the trolls out of here please mods?


Until you can show some posts in the last week where anyone on this site suggested to fire Kubiak because they lost to the Colts, than STFU!!

Bring some substance into the thread or something meaningful, but for crying out loud stop trying to bring this site down by creating lies about what other posters have stated or what their arguments have been. Point it out and show all these posters that have advocated this in the last week if you're going to keep on with this chicken shit agenda of calling other people poor fans because they don't agree with your "sunshine on everything" agenda at all costs with the Texans.

ThaShark316 12-27-2011 07:12 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1865322)
Can we get the trolls out of here please mods?


Until you can show some posts in the last week where anyone on this site suggested to fire Kubiak because they lost to the Colts, than STFU!!

Bring some substance into the thread or something meaningful, but for crying out loud stop trying to bring this site down by creating lies about what other posters have stated or what their arguments have been.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary (Post 1864312)
I would not want Wade as HC but Gary should be shown the door along with Rick.

Gary (the poster) is my boy, but I know what I saw. I wasn't making anything up, nor was I trolling. Calm down, my man.

And that's just one post. I could find stuff all day. Got dammit, man. I'm not trying to troll this thread. It's not even that serious.

Texecutioner 12-27-2011 07:19 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 1865325)
Gary (the poster) is my boy, but I know what I saw. I wasn't making anything up, nor was I trolling. Calm down, my man.

And that's just one post. I could find stuff all day. Got dammit, man. I'm not trying to troll this thread. It's not even that serious.

You say this as if you've got half the board calling for the HC's head. Enough already. We get it, you love the HC and think he has done a great job. Over all for the entire season he has. Make your case based off of what's in Soloman's article if that is your position. The last thing anyone wants to read is some petty little "troll post" where someone slides in and exaggerates and down right lies about what all these folks are advocating for. No one expects Gary to be fired after this season. They may want that at season end, but they won't expect it to happen at all.

ThaShark316 12-27-2011 07:33 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1865332)
You say this as if you've got half the board calling for the HC's head. Enough already. We get it, you love the HC and think he has done a great job. Over all for the entire season he has. Make your case based off of what's in Soloman's article if that is your position. The last thing anyone wants to read is some petty little "troll post" where someone slides in and exaggerates and down right lies about what all these folks are advocating for. No one expects Gary to be fired after this season. They may want that at season end, but they won't expect it to happen at all.

I didn't say everyone did that. Hell, why did Solomon write it? To hell with the board for a sec. I'm sure he's heard that the last few days whether it's the radio, twitter, etc. I wasn't trolling at all, Tex.

BTW, who's "The Shark"?

Texan_Bill 12-27-2011 07:37 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 1865340)
I didn't say everyone did that. Hell, why did Solomon write it? To hell with the board for a sec. I'm sure he's heard that the last few days whether it's the radio, twitter, etc. I wasn't trolling at all, Tex.

BTW, who's "The Shark"?

Wasn't "the Shark" Lawrence Taylor ("its all clean that way") in "Any Given Sunday" that played for the "Miami Sharks"??? ;)

Anywho cat, I got your back... I know exactly what you're saying. I've heard and read the same BS that you have.

Playoffs 12-27-2011 08:14 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Geez.

Dude brings a Snoop facepalm and gets no cred? :spit:

Ranger Tom 12-27-2011 08:18 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asleep (Post 1865360)
Geez.

Dude brings a Snoop facepalm and gets no cred? :spit:

Don't we have too many facepalms already?

Playoffs 12-27-2011 08:28 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger Tom (Post 1865362)
Don't we have too many facepalms already?

I'm of the opinion you can't have too many facepalms. http://www.robotzindisguise.com/foru.../facepalm2.gifhttp://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...564_1953_q.jpghttp://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/7...ear_normal.jpghttp://fc07.deviantart.net/fs38/f/20...acepalmplz.pnghttp://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile..._2985156_q.jpg

Kimmy 12-27-2011 08:33 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger tom (Post 1865362)
don't we have too many facepalms already?

^^^^^^ yes!

Texan_Bill 12-27-2011 08:34 PM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Believe me when I tell YOU..... We CAN'T have enough *facepalms* given many of the new posters with their posts - let alone their new threads....


:facepalm:


FML!!

*EDIT*
I revised this post to avoid the harsh negative rep. from "Scooter". He apparently frowns upon teasing "noobs"... Sorry Scooter! :rolleyes:

Dutchrudder 12-28-2011 03:14 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
If nothing else, I think 99% of us can agree that Kubiak does not deserve an extension.

Señor Stan 12-28-2011 06:34 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 1865458)
If nothing else, I think 99% of us can agree that Kubiak does not deserve an extension.

Sooo...you're saying that McNair is a 1%er in more ways than one. OccupyKirby!

Thorn 12-28-2011 07:45 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. Football is the opposite of our court system where you are innocent until proven guilty. In football, you are crappy until proven good. Kubiak has had one good year (this one), and he wouldn't have had that without Wade Phillips. He's still a crappy head coach.

He may be less crappy than he used to be, but that doesn't mean he still isn't worthless.

IDEXAN 12-28-2011 08:44 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Let's see how Gary handles the next couple games ?

Thorn 12-28-2011 08:59 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 1865495)
Let's see how Gary handles the next couple games ?

I'm not sure I'd change my mind about Kubiak if he wins a game or two in the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, I want the man gone, but I'll be cheering like hell for him to win. Being a Texan fan rises above disliked or beloved players/coaches/GM/owner. I used to cheer for the Oilers while I hated Bud Adams. I can cheer for the Texans while wishing Kubiak gone.

thunderkyss 12-28-2011 09:22 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asleep (Post 1865304)
See what the Green Bay Packers and New England Patriots are doing this year with horrid defenses and you get my point that the Texans’ high-powered offense last year wasn’t nearly the great offense most made it out to be. Even with a terrible defense, better coaching last year would have delivered something better than a 6-10 record.

I was saying this all year last year. But "everyone" was like, "you can't expect your offense to score 30 points every game"

Why not.

Of course the answer is that we aren't & never was an elite offense. PurtEdamnGud, but not elite.

I saw an interesting statement last night when I rewatched the Panthers game. Gary Kubiak is the only coach in the last 5 years to have the Rushing, Passing, & Receiveing leaders on the same team. May not have been all on the same year, but.. if you've got a QB that can lead the league in passing, a receiver that can lead the league in receiving, and a RB who can lead the league in rushing...... why can't you score 30 at will?

Why can't you score 21 at will? If our offense could have done that, our defense could have looked a lot better.

If they could have just stayed on the field, our defense would not have been such a liability.


This year, we've got the defense to back it up & we can play a ball control offense. But last year.... last year, we needed to get on the board early & often.

thunderkyss 12-28-2011 09:27 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 1865458)
If nothing else, I think 99% of us can agree that Kubiak does not deserve an extension.

If we're in the AFC Championship game with Tj Yates..... yes. If not.. no.

Thorn 12-28-2011 09:30 AM

Re: So, we’re back to jumping on Gary Kubiak again? Seriously?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1865518)
If we're in the AFC Championship game with Tj Yates..... yes. If not.. no.

LOL TK, if the Texans win two playoff games with Yates at the helm, even I might have to change my mind.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger