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The1ApplePie 12-22-2011 06:54 PM

Barkley Staying at USC
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...012-nfl-draft/

Going for the Heisman and a Bowl Game

Makes a USC fan happy but I am sure their are some very upset Dolphins and Browns fans right now:ant:

edo783 12-22-2011 10:26 PM

Re: Barkley Staying at USC
 
NOT a particularly good decision IMO, but to each their own.

LonerATO 12-22-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by edo783 (Post 1862294)
NOT a particularly good decision IMO, but to each their own.

I think he will still be a top 5 pick.

SeminoleTexan 12-23-2011 12:02 AM

Re: Barkley Staying at USC
 
This solidifies USC as a pre-season Top 5 team. They will definitely be a force next year and make a run at the National Title. With RG3, Andrew Luck, and possibly Landry Jones going to the draft this year, I don't think this decision to stay is that bad of an idea. He could easily be the first QB taken next year barring any major injuries.

LonerATO 12-23-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SeminoleTexan (Post 1862873)
This solidifies USC as a pre-season Top 5 team. They will definitely be a force next year and make a run at the National Title. With RG3, Andrew Luck, and possibly Landry Jones going to the draft this year, I don't think this decision to stay is that bad of an idea. He could easily be the first QB taken next year barring any major injuries.

I thought USC was still in a bowl ban or did it end this year?

steelbtexan 12-23-2011 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by edo783 (Post 1862294)
NOT a particularly good decision IMO, but to each their own.

This

But I respect his decision

$$$$, isn't everything and Barkley is an example of what's right in kids today.

Wolf6151 12-23-2011 12:44 AM

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This is a mistake IMO since he's a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft. It's a huge risk just trying to be the #1 overall pick in 2013. Barkley should remember that the All-American LT, Matt Kalil, protecting his blind side is going to the NFL and they'll be starting a new guy next year. He's risking his future in the hands of a new unproven LT and it only takes one blow to the knee to make him a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.

beerlover 12-23-2011 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1863022)
This is a mistake IMO since he's a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft. It's a huge risk just trying to be the #1 overall pick in 2013. Barkley should remember that the All-American LT, Matt Kalil, protecting his blind side is going to the NFL and they'll be starting a new guy next year. He's risking his future in the hands of a new unproven LT and it only takes one blow to the knee to make him a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.

Barkley is a different cat. I think he's going to be a good one, a real good one its a just a dream of his & he wants to finish on top instead of suspension filled with dissapointment. Hard to place a value on that.

Dutchrudder 12-23-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LonerATO (Post 1862901)
I thought USC was still in a bowl ban or did it end this year?

I think they will be off probation after this year. They should be bowl eligible next year.

Texan4Ever 12-25-2011 01:45 PM

Re: Barkley Staying at USC
 
I wonder what the percentage is on athletes who say they're coming back but then change their mind as soon as the eligibility date grows closer and closer?

badboy 12-25-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1863022)
This is a mistake IMO since he's a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft. It's a huge risk just trying to be the #1 overall pick in 2013. Barkley should remember that the All-American LT, Matt Kalil, protecting his blind side is going to the NFL and they'll be starting a new guy next year. He's risking his future in the hands of a new unproven LT and it only takes one blow to the knee to make him a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.

Beat me to it 6151, good post. IMO in most scenarios a top 10 player should always come out and get into NFL coaching asap. There are some exceptions but Barkley should have come out.

edo783 12-25-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LonerATO (Post 1862734)
I think he will still be a top 5 pick.

Never meant he wouldn't be. IMO, the risk of injury in his last year knocking him into perhaps the second round or maybe even out of football is the real risk. The iron is hot and it is risky NOT to strike it. However, if he plays even better this next season he may wind up the number one pick. It is a dice roll, but it seems to have a bunch more downside than upside.

Wolf6151 12-25-2011 10:48 PM

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Remember Matt Leinart played this game a few years ago and it backfired on him. He would have been a top 10 pick after his junior year but decided to stay so that he could party with co-eds in hot tubs, not that it's a bad thing I would if I could, but it cost him draft position the next year. This is a dangerous game to play and it almost never works out for the better.

beerlover 12-26-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1864438)
Remember Matt Leinart played this game a few years ago and it backfired on him. He would have been a top 10 pick after his junior year but decided to stay so that he could party with co-eds in hot tubs, not that it's a bad thing I would if I could, but it cost him draft position the next year. This is a dangerous game to play and it almost never works out for the better.

Leinart is nowhere close to Barkley in terms of talent. Lacks arm strength, accuracy, mobility & least I remind you durability. The only thing in common is their College & position played. Barkley is a true #1 next level mark these words.

Wolf6151 12-26-2011 02:29 AM

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I didn't say Barkley and Leinart were similar in terms of talent. I said that Leinart also played the same game of staying in school to long instead of striking while the iron was hot and it cost him.

bah007 12-26-2011 01:00 PM

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Barkley's parents are already wealthy. He doesn't need the money.

I love his decision. And I think it's hilarious when a kid gets knocked for going back to school.

gary 12-26-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 1864601)
Barkley's parents are already wealthy. He doesn't need the money.

I love his decision. And I think it's hilarious when a kid gets knocked for going back to school.

What do his parents do?

thunderkyss 12-27-2011 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 1864601)
Barkley's parents are already wealthy. He doesn't need the money.

I love his decision. And I think it's hilarious when a kid gets knocked for going back to school.

If he's going back to finish his degree that's one thing, but to go back for hopes of a bowl game & Heisman, I couldn't think of any more wrong reasons.

If I'm expected to be one of the first three to go at my position, I'm looking at possible landing spots. Miami would be enticing, so would Washington. Id be upset if I have to go to Jacksonville or Clevland though.

kastofsna 12-29-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1864915)
If he's going back to finish his degree that's one thing, but to go back for hopes of a bowl game & Heisman, I couldn't think of any more wrong reasons.

why? you can finish a degree at any time. there's only one more chance in his life to win a bowl game or a Heisman.

he has money, it isn't an issue to him. btw, the decision to stay hasn't really hurt Andrew Luck any. he'll still be the #1 pick this year. also, that's assuming HE is coming out...

but this does suck for me as a Dolphins fan. maybe we wouldn't have gotten Barkley, but with him out of the draft it just takes away one big prospect that could fall down to us. guess i'll just hope for RG3 now.

thunderkyss 12-29-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kastofsna (Post 1865961)
why? you can finish a degree at any time. there's only one more chance in his life to win a bowl game or a Heisman.

I was talking about the decision. bah007 said he "loved the decision"

I'd like the decision if he was doing it because he felt his education was important to him. If he wants to stay to win the Heisman, or win a Bowl game, that's no different than wanting to be a 1st round pick, or to "live his dream" of being in the NFL.

I've got more respect for the decision guys like Shaq & KG made to go to the pros but still finish their education even though they were loaded.


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