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Wolf6151 12-16-2011 01:31 AM

2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Walterfootballs mock draft was posted and followed last year and I thought it might be interesting to do so again this year. Walterfootball's mocks and prospect evaluations are usually some of the best ones to follow. Here are the latest picks for the Texans that was updated on 12-15-11.

24. Peter Konz-C
56. Josh Chapman-NT
87. Robert Lester-S

IMO it's obvious that Walter hasn't kept up with Texans needs lately since I think it's clear to almost everyone that WR will be our 1st pick. I actually like the first 2 picks and wouldn't argue with them at all, but Lester in the 3rd seems a waste since Quin and Manning are playing so well together. I noted that Walter has Audie Cole-ILB going one pick later in the 3rd round at #88, I'd rather have Cole for depth at ILB than Lester for depth at FS. Opinions?

beerlover 12-16-2011 02:02 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1856802)
Walterfootballs mock draft was posted and followed last year and I thought it might be interesting to do so again this year. Walterfootball's mocks and prospect evaluations are usually some of the best ones to follow. Here are the latest picks for the Texans that was updated on 12-15-11.

24. Peter Konz-C
56. Josh Chapman-NT
87. Robert Lester-S

IMO it's obvious that Walter hasn't kept up with Texans needs lately since I think it's clear to almost everyone that WR will be our 1st pick. I actually like the first 2 picks and wouldn't argue with them at all, but Lester in the 3rd seems a waste since Quin and Manning are playing so well together. I noted that Walter has Audie Cole-ILB going one pick later in the 3rd round at #88, I'd rather have Cole for depth at ILB than Lester for depth at FS. Opinions?

Chapman could very well be our first come April (my personal favorite @ the moment) Konz has not declared intentions (most Wisconsin OL stay in school). Audie is late 2nd early 3rd while Lester is a solid 3rd. If I could have all three of them right now I would take it, but that's awfully wishful thinking :pop:

TimeKiller 12-16-2011 07:16 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Yeah, I've read that one. He says the Glover Quin expirement hasn't worked out....lol.....really?!?! Come on dude. I mean it's one thing if you speak generally because you don't want to look foolish by picking someone out. It's another to pick out a guy who is having a helluva season and say he's playing like crap.

I'd much rather have Cole than this guy Lester.

aussie_texan 12-16-2011 07:29 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
i have been keeping an eye on walter a lot and check his mocks each week.

i think for the last 4 if not 5 weeks his had the same three players which is really annoying especially since his reasoning for the lester pick is because "the quinn experiment isn't working" which i think couldn't be more wrong

badboy 12-16-2011 10:29 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
He adjusts his first round only & that is occasionally. I think he has stretched himself pretty thin with the magnitude of his web site. I don't use his info as much as before.
I think Konz will be gone before our pick. If he were to come out the following season & we have the draft this time I think we will have, I would trade up in first to get Konz.

I cannot get into Chapman. WHen I watch he disappoints me.

Really like Lester and had him mocked very early as first round but our safety issue has been resolved for most part and I'd draft a later ound to support that area.

Brandon420tx 12-17-2011 06:19 AM

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If we get a really late 1st round pick, I'm hoping for Dwight Jones (give T.J. Yates a buddy) or Kendall Wright baby woooo!!

I've been wanting Dwight Jones since watching TJ Yates' highlight reels last year, mostly because I got the impression Jones was building up Yates to look better than he was and it caught my interest. I was happy with what I saw in Yates and thought he'd be a great #2 in about 2 years, so you can't believe how thrilled I've been with his play so far, but I was always thinking, it'd be nice to get Dwight Jones here as well. He kinda reminds me of a second tier AJ tbh, with potential in the right system to become elite. *DingDingDingbringhimhere!*

Alot of places are calling him a *breakout* player this year, but I felt he was a standout performer last year too. So that's another plus

nero THE zero 12-18-2011 07:55 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1856802)
Walterfootballs mock draft was posted and followed last year and I thought it might be interesting to do so again this year. Walterfootball's mocks and prospect evaluations are usually some of the best ones to follow. Here are the latest picks for the Texans that was updated on 12-15-11.

24. Peter Konz-C
56. Josh Chapman-NT
87. Robert Lester-S

IMO it's obvious that Walter hasn't kept up with Texans needs lately since I think it's clear to almost everyone that WR will be our 1st pick. I actually like the first 2 picks and wouldn't argue with them at all, but Lester in the 3rd seems a waste since Quin and Manning are playing so well together. I noted that Walter has Audie Cole-ILB going one pick later in the 3rd round at #88, I'd rather have Cole for depth at ILB than Lester for depth at FS. Opinions?

I see some of the same stuff from the guys who post in this forum. It's a matter of opinion, but I can't fathom how our first pick is not a WR or CB.

digitalswim 12-18-2011 08:06 PM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Yeah I am hoping there is decent WR value on the board when we pick. Kubiak has done a decent job of disguising our weakness in that dept. with heavy TE usage but we have absolutely nothing behind AJ. I don't care what the David Anderson and Jacoby Jones apologists have to say on the matter either. The only props I have for them concerns their down field blocking which is usually pretty solid.

Wolf6151 12-22-2011 02:27 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Walter updated his mock today, 12-22-11, and made one change to the Texans picks.

1. Peter Konz-C
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR

Streeter is a Junior WR from Miami who's tall with good speed, tons of athletic talent and potential but only 1 yr. of actual playing time. If he had stayed in school he'd most likely be a 1st round pick in the 2013 draft but he's coming out early. After the Combine I think Streeter goes in the 2nd round. If our draft went like this I'd be happy.

beerlover 12-22-2011 02:45 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1861260)
Walter updated his mock today, 12-22-11, and made one change to the Texans picks.

1. Peter Konz-C
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Tommy Streeter-WR

Streeter is a Junior WR from Miami who's tall with good speed, tons of athletic talent and potential but only 1 yr. of actual playing time. If he had stayed in school he'd most likely be a 1st round pick in the 2013 draft but he's coming out early. After the Combine I think Streeter goes in the 2nd round. If our draft went like this I'd be happy.

Konz has a serious dislocated left ankle that may keep him out of the Rose Bowl against Oregon. He is a Junior and as of yet - heard nothing about him turning pro, so until he does I believe he will return to school. Maybe the Texans will look at him next year?

I just can't see how Chapman could slip to end of the 2nd rd. that would be a huge steal & type of run plugger Texans need to tie up multiple linemen.

I'll have to pass on Streeter with his limited playing experience. I would like someone more polished & ready to start.

mussop 12-25-2011 04:59 PM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 1857966)
I see some of the same stuff from the guys who post in this forum. It's a matter of opinion, but I can't fathom how our first pick is not a WR or CB.

Why? You can't approach the draft wight the thinking that you are just going to fill holes. Especially when your first pick is a late one. Who do you see available late in the first round at WR or CB that would come in and replace Jackson or Walter? Draft the best player available and then use FA to sign guys to reasonable contracts where needed. Detouring from this philosophy will only hurt us down the road.

Insideop 12-26-2011 12:59 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Walterfootball updated his mock again 12-26-11.

1 Peter Konz-C
2 Josh Chapman-NT
3 Marvin McNutt-WR

McNutt is the only change (was Streeter) but I don't think McNutt will be there late in the 3rd. Walterfootball themselves has him going in the 2nd, so I don't see how they have him going to us late in the 3rd. From what I've read/heard about McNutt he could be a very good pick up. If the draft turned out this way I'd be happy. Just don't think it will. The Combine/Pro-days will tell us a lot about these players, especially the WR's, and some of their draft positions could change dramatically come draft day.

Wolf6151 12-26-2011 01:24 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 1864498)
Walterfootball updated his mock again 12-26-11.

1 Peter Konz-C
2 Josh Chapman-NT
3 Marvin McNutt-WR

McNutt is the only change (was Streeter) but I don't think McNutt will be there late in the 3rd. Walterfootball themselves has him going in the 2nd, so I don't see how they have him going to us late in the 3rd. From what I've read/heard about McNutt he could be a very good pick up. If the draft turned out this way I'd be happy. Just don't think it will. The Combine/Pro-days will tell us a lot about these players, especially the WR's, and some of their draft positions could change dramatically come draft day.

Thanks for the update. I'd be thrilled if our draft went like this but like you I think it's highly doubtful that McNutt falls to the 3rd round. That's some pretty good talent right there, Walter seems to be a Texans fan.

Insideop 12-28-2011 09:29 PM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Walterfootball updated mock 12/29/11.

1. Kendall Wright, WR/KR, Baylor
2. Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
3. Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State

Big changes from last week with the Texans now taking a WR in the 1st. I wonder if Kubes would pick a WR the size of Wright in the 1st? We do need a KR too so that would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

badboy 12-29-2011 06:30 PM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
He also has Brandon Washington (my guy) drafted before Kevin Zeitler. I don't think so Lucy.

Wolf6151 12-30-2011 12:26 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy (Post 1866233)
He also has Brandon Washington (my guy) drafted before Kevin Zeitler. I don't think so Lucy.

I'm not saying it will happen but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Washington is a stud/beast at OG, very capable RT, and can play LT as well but not what you want at LT. He's very versatile and that versatility will be attractive to NFL teams. It would not surprise me if he went in the early/mid 2nd round.

badboy 12-30-2011 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1866357)
I'm not saying it will happen but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Washington is a stud/beast at OG, very capable RT, and can play LT as well but not what you want at LT. He's very versatile and that versatility will be attractive to NFL teams. It would not surprise me if he went in the early/mid 2nd round.

As Washington was moved to LT this season, I was not able to compare him to Zeitler who is a hoss. You are correct as I too see him moving up, drat. I'll have to take him off my mock.

ObsiWan 01-03-2012 02:45 PM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon420tx (Post 1857506)
If we get a really late 1st round pick, I'm hoping for Dwight Jones (give T.J. Yates a buddy) or Kendall Wright baby woooo!!

I've been wanting Dwight Jones since watching TJ Yates' highlight reels last year, mostly because I got the impression Jones was building up Yates to look better than he was and it caught my interest. I was happy with what I saw in Yates and thought he'd be a great #2 in about 2 years, so you can't believe how thrilled I've been with his play so far, but I was always thinking, it'd be nice to get Dwight Jones here as well. He kinda reminds me of a second tier AJ tbh, with potential in the right system to become elite. *DingDingDingbringhimhere!*

Alot of places are calling him a *breakout* player this year, but I felt he was a standout performer last year too. So that's another plus

I'm with you here. Dwight Jones has hands, size, runs good routes, not elite speed but fast enough. I think he'd be an upgrade over our current Jones. Who knows, he may be available in round 2.

I know this, we can't keep drafting WRs late in the draft or hoping walk-ons will pan out.

Wolf6151 01-05-2012 04:19 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Walter updated his mock on 01-05-12 and added a 4th round.

1. Mohamed Sanu-WR, apparently the reports of him staying in school were wrong.
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Michael Brewster-C
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

Corrosion 01-05-2012 08:52 AM

Re: 2012 Walterfootball Mock Draft.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1870897)
Walter updated his mock on 01-05-12 and added a 4th round.

1. Mohamed Sanu-WR, apparently the reports of him staying in school were wrong.
2. Josh Chapman-NT
3. Michael Brewster-C
4. Trevor Guyton-DE/DT

For a team that was fantastic defensively all year - #2 overall , #3 against the pass and #4 against the run sure seems a lot of these mock guy's want to upgrade the DT spot ..... I think S.Cody had a great year , his second consecutive.


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