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Playoffs 11-29-2011 11:16 AM

Lions' Suh suspended two games for Thanksgiving stomp
 
DETROIT (AP) -- Ndamukong Suh's stomp will cost him two games.
The NFL suspended Detroit's All-Pro defensive tackle on Tuesday for roughing up a Green Bay Packers player in front of a national television audience during a loss on Thanksgiving Day. Suh will miss Sunday night's game at New Orleans and a Dec. 11 home game against Minnesota and he won't be paid until he is reinstated Dec. 12...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

Vinny 11-29-2011 11:31 AM

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I wonder if Subway will keep running his commercials?

HOU-TEX 11-29-2011 11:45 AM

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I really like Suh as a player, but what he did was just pathetic. Great DT, but obviously still has a lot to learn.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 1838983)
I wonder if Subway will keep running his commercials?

I'd flip it if I were Subway.


How hilarious would it be if Subway had him in a new commercial where he was stomping their competitor's sandwich's?? I'd laugh my ass off.

Goatcheese 11-29-2011 12:24 PM

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This thing has been overblown. The O-Line man took him down after the play was over and Suh lost his cool. He should have been ejected, fined for fighting and then everyone could go on with their lives. It isn't like he ripped the guy's helmet off and stomped on his face. He punked a little ***** who shoved him down after the play and then went a little overboard by kicking the prick when he got up.

He's not dirty, just immature.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839057)
He's not dirty, just immature.

Yeah, he's not dirty. He just makes highlight reels every single week for doing something that's considered dirty by the masses. He's not a little boy to where he can be called immature. He's a grown man that chooses to play more dirty than we've seen anyone play in years.

Goatcheese 11-29-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1839066)
Yeah, he's not dirty. He just makes highlight reels every single week for doing something that's considered dirty by the masses. He's not a little boy to where he can be called immature. He's a grown man that chooses to play more dirty than we've seen anyone play in years.

There's no argument that Suh is a vicious football player. The guy plays mean and the modern pussified fan can't tell the difference between mean and dirty. It doesn't hurt that the average fan is borderline retarded either.

Suh's problem is that he loses control of his temper(immature) not that he goes out and decides to hurt people(dirty). Stomping on a guy after a fight is a sign that he lost his temper. He didn't go out there looking for a chance to hurt someone.

Guys like Romo who would break people's fingers in the pile to try to rip the ball away were dirty. Fat Assbert, who coldly stood over a player and stomped on his face, is dirty.

Being violent is not dirty. It's football. Most of the things people are whining about were not even penalties a decade ago. You would have had people laughing in your face if you called Suh dirty in the 90's.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839126)
It doesn't hurt that the average fan is borderline retarded either.

The only fan that would get described that way is the guy that is trying to make a case that Suh isn't a dirty player after so many multiple occurences in only his 2nd season.

I like Suh a lot and he is very exciting to watch, but saying that he isn't dirty is like saying that Andre Johnson isn't big or physical. It's ridiculous argument to make at this point.

Vinny 11-29-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1839026)
I'd flip it if I were Subway.


How hilarious would it be if Subway had him in a new commercial where he was stomping their competitor's sandwich's?? I'd laugh my ass off.

that's a pretty darn good idea. You are the guy running Cain's campaign aren't you?

infantrycak 11-29-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839126)
Most of the things people are whining about were not even penalties a decade ago. You would have had people laughing in your face if you called Suh dirty in the 90's.

Knowingly violating the rules of whatever time period is the definition of dirty. He is intentionally (and specifically said on a couple occasions) refusing to alter his play to comply with the current rules. That's dirty. The players around him have an expectation of compliance with the rules. The guys opposite him would be playing differently if they were using 1990 rules as well. Unless you want to defend him as such a moron that he can't comprehend the rules (plead the moron defense) then the dude has played dirty so far.

Double Barrel 11-29-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839057)
This thing has been overblown. The O-Line man took him down after the play was over and Suh lost his cool. He should have been ejected, fined for fighting and then everyone could go on with their lives. It isn't like he ripped the guy's helmet off and stomped on his face. He punked a little ***** who shoved him down after the play and then went a little overboard by kicking the prick when he got up.

He's not dirty, just immature.

NFL players completely disagree with you.


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Midseason player poll: Ndamukong Suh voted dirtiest by landslide

With half the season finished, Sporting News’ network of NFL correspondents asked 111 players from 31 teams everything you want to know about what has happened—and will happen—in 2011.

As always in our midseason poll, players were not allowed to name their team, teammates or head coach for any of their answers.

Who is the dirtiest player in the league?

Detroit Lions DT Ndamukong Suh—36

gwallaia 11-29-2011 02:21 PM

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Courtland Innegan is going to have to step up his game to regain the top spot.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 1839136)
that's a pretty darn good idea. You are the guy running Cain's campaign aren't you?

I'm not sure what the hell to think about that one Vinny? :thinking:

Goatcheese 11-29-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 1839164)
NFL players completely disagree with you.

NFL players mostly go home and get their news from watching talking heads on ESPN/NFLN like everyone else. 36 players out of nearly 1,700 in the league is meaningless anyway.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839170)
NFL players mostly go home and get their news from watching talking heads on ESPN/NFLN like everyone else. 36 players out of nearly 1,700 in the league is meaningless anyway.

What part of the action of trying to stomp on someone while they're defenseless on the ground are you missing on the way of being able to interpret that as a dirty act on a football field? You completely contradict yourself when you call Fat Albert all these names and call him this dirty ass player, but then defend a guy like Suh who has just in two years waaaaayyy surpassed Albert Haynesworth as far as having questionable and dirty plays on the field in just two seasons alone.

And as far as ESPN and their analysts, they've actually given him the benefit of the doubt on several plays and have stuck up for him a lot more than they should have in the past and that was because he was exciting and fun to watch. If anything, they've been generous and not criticized him enough at this point since he certainly hasn't seemed to get it.

Playoffs 11-29-2011 02:28 PM

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Report: Lions' Ndamukong Suh plans to appeal 2-game suspension

Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh plans to appeal his two-game suspension for stomping on a Green Bay Packers offensive lineman, according to a report on ESPN.
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According to the ESPN report, Suh was encouraged to appeal his suspension by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- the man who handed down the punishment.
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The suspension is without pay, so Suh will forfeit $165,647 -- two-seventeenths of his $1.405-million base salary.
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The Lions also are in line to be fined $50,000 for exceeding $100,000 in fines as a team (with a maximum of $50,000 per incident). Team fines are handed out after the season, after all appeals are exhausted.

Goatcheese 11-29-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1839178)
What part of the action of trying to stomp on someone while they're defenseless on the ground are you missing on the way of being able to interpret that as a dirty act on a football field? You completely contradict yourself when you call Fat Albert all these names and call him this dirty ass player, but then defend a guy like Suh who has just in two years waaaaayyy surpassed Albert Haynesworth as far as having questionable and dirty plays on the field in just two seasons alone.

And as far as ESPN and their analysts, they've actually given him the benefit of the doubt on several plays and have stuck up for him a lot more than they should have in the past and that was because he was exciting and fun to watch. If anything, they've been generous and not criticized him enough at this point since he certainly hasn't seemed to get it.

I've already clearly laid out why I view them differently. Work on your reading comprehension.

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839184)
I've already clearly laid out why I view them differently. Work on your reading comprehension.

The ole reading comprehension card being played now?? Lol!


Sorry, but you aren't even recognizing the fact that you called one guy a bunch of names and called him dirty for the same act that SUh pulled and all you did was try and twist as if it wasn't the same, but that killed your entire stance from the jump. You've been shown a survey by NFL players who compete against this guy, and you even brush that off as if they don't know shit either when they're the ones lining up against this guy.


Sorry, but this is laughable dude.

Goatcheese 11-29-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1839195)
The ole reading comprehension card being played now?? Lol!


Sorry, but you aren't even recognizing the fact that you called one guy a bunch of names and called him dirty for the same act that SUh pulled and all you did was try and twist as if it wasn't the same, but that killed your entire stance from the jump. You've been shown a survey by NFL players who compete against this guy, and you even brush that off as if they don't know shit either when they're the ones lining up against this guy.


Sorry, but this is laughable dude.

Yes, the old reading comprehension card. Go back and actually read what I wrote. I'm not going to spell it out for you over and over. Either you have the IQ to understand it or you don't.

Oh, what the hell. I'll treat you like the four year old you insist on being.

One player got into a scuffle/fight after that player drove him to the ground after a play, and as a non-stop continuation of said conflict kick/stomped on the arm of the player he was fighting with as he got up and was disentangling himself from said player.

With me so far? Do I need to use smaller words?

Another player calmly stood over an opponent, looked down at him and made the decision to stomp on his exposed head.

One was anger and immaturity and the other was just flat out dirty.

Was it dirty when Andre Johnson ripped the helmet off of a certain tinbred and beat the F out of him, or was it a loss of emotional control?

Texecutioner 11-29-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839204)
Yes, the old reading comprehension card. Go back and actually read what I wrote. I'm not going to spell it out for you over and over. Either you have the IQ to understand it or you don't.

Oh, what the hell. I'll treat you like the four year old you insist on being.

I've understood your premise this entire time. You are the one that is failing to realize that it's a joke as far as how you've been trying to rationalize Suh's actions.

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 1839204)
One player got into a scuffle/fight after that player drove him to the ground after a play, and as a non-stop continuation of said conflict kick/stomped on the arm of the player he was fighting with as he got up and was disentangling himself from said player.

And right above here is your mistake once again at thinking that you can somehow explain and rationalize this as anything but dirty especially when this involves someone who makes the news almost every week for either questionable actions on the field or downright dirty actions where people everywhere are criticizing him.

You're being understood with your attempt to spin this and act like it's different, but you're failing to understand that your attempt isn't even close to being swallowed as valid. Now you can keep making insults and acting like no one is understanding you to skirt the issue, but it's a swing and miss every time when you're trying to argue that Suh isn't a dirty player and this is coming from a guy who loves to watch him play.


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