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Lucky 11-01-2011 11:50 PM

The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Everything seems positive with the Texans, now. Well, as positive as it can with 3 of their top players out with injuries. We're talking defensive rankings, Pro Bowls, and playoff seeding. That's right. Not just playoffs. Playoff seeding.

But, it's November 1st. And what no one's talking about is what happens to the Texans in November. They lose. A lot. 14 L's over 20 games during the Kubiak era. Gary is actually 4 games over .500 in all other months combined. And while no one is saying it, everyone is aware that the Texans entered November of 2009 and 2010 with winning records. We all know what happened after that.

Does this year feel different? Yes, it does. Enter Wade Phillips. Exit Peyton Manning. And don't forget Denny's new Baconalia menu. Gary loves it.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsjustice/...10/kubiak2.jpg

But why have the Texans struggled in November's past? My feeling is that the collars on Kirby just got a little tighter during this part of the season. That can't happen this year. Home for Cleveland, on the road to Tampa and Jacksonville. Two & one won't put them in the playoffs. But at least they can enter December at 7-4 and see the playoffs from there. And that's a far better sight than this big elephant we're looking at now.

silvrhand 11-01-2011 11:59 PM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Is it me or does it feel like Gary this year has gotten rid of his scripted plays? We seem a LOT more effective on the first/second drives in the game this year.

ArlingtonTexan 11-02-2011 12:02 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Actually feels different. The defense is playing well even with injuries. they face two really young QBs, and a thrid that has been hit or miss this year. No dynamic offenses and low possibility for bad weather.

With the Foster and tate running game, as Sunday proved the Texans also don't have to play pretty in 2011. Still because this is the NFL (mostly) and the Texans, I expect them to lose one of the games, just because it (sh) happens.

Endcoachment 11-02-2011 12:18 AM

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We have the browns up next and while half of their defense is great I believe someone will haves big day. We usually get a win when one of our three has a big day, and a blowout when two of them have a good day. In my opinion Adrian goes off for 210 rushing and receiving. Matt throws for 320, and the Texans win.

Texans over browns 31-10

Tampa is no slouch but I think they aren't as good as people make them out to be. Blount is great at taking advantage of holes but our run defense has been stellar and I look for us to continue this trend. I believe the pass game might take a hit in this game but Adrian and Tate bail us out with 250 combined rushing yards.

Texans over Tampa 26-20, win by 2 field goals.

We have a bye here and with Andre needing the extra time I look for our whole team to be revitalized. The tale of the tape has been horrid losses following the some teams bye week. However with Andre coming back to the lineup Im thinking it ignites a fire under our assets. 2 weeks of great practice and almost everyone returning to form.

Jacksonville is up next again and they will be in it to win it and hopefully to crush the Texans chances of a high seed. I look for Shaub to have his best game this season throwing for over 400 yards in a close game.

28-24 Texans

silvrhand 11-02-2011 12:19 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 1818109)
Actually feels different. The defense is playing well even with injuries. they face two really young QBs, and a thrid that has been hit or miss this year. No dynamic offenses and low possibility for bad weather.

With the Foster and tate running game, as Sunday proved the Texans also don't have to play pretty in 2011. Still because this is the NFL (mostly) and the Texans, I expect them to lose one of the games, just because it (sh) happens.

What feels and shows the most to me is two things, the offense showing some life early in the game. And the defense is starting to show some swagger on the field they are starting to believe in themselves and forcing their will on the other teams. It's good to see for sure.

paycheck71 11-02-2011 12:29 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Endcoachment (Post 1818111)
In my opinion Adrian goes off for 210 rushing and receiving.

I believe the pass game might take a hit in this game but Adrian and Tate bail us out with 250 combined rushing yards.

Did we sign a new kick ass RB? Awesome!

dream_team 11-02-2011 01:36 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by silvrhand (Post 1818108)
Is it me or does it feel like Gary this year has gotten rid of his scripted plays? We seem a LOT more effective on the first/second drives in the game this year.

The scripts just have been better.

The Pencil Neck 11-02-2011 02:24 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dream_team (Post 1818119)
The scripts just have been better.

Execution has been better.

:kubepalm:

ThaShark316 11-02-2011 02:55 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Endcoachment (Post 1818111)
We have the browns up next and while half of their defense is great I believe someone will haves big day. We usually get a win when one of our three has a big day, and a blowout when two of them have a good day. In my opinion Adrian goes off for 210 rushing and receiving. Matt throws for 320, and the Texans win.

Texans over browns 31-10

Tampa is no slouch but I think they aren't as good as people make them out to be. Blount is great at taking advantage of holes but our run defense has been stellar and I look for us to continue this trend. I believe the pass game might take a hit in this game but Adrian and Tate bail us out with 250 combined rushing yards.

Texans over Tampa 26-20, win by 2 field goals.

We have a bye here and with Andre needing the extra time I look for our whole team to be revitalized. The tale of the tape has been horrid losses following the some teams bye week. However with Andre coming back to the lineup Im thinking it ignites a fire under our assets. 2 weeks of great practice and almost everyone returning to form.

Jacksonville is up next again and they will be in it to win it and hopefully to crush the Texans chances of a high seed. I look for Shaub to have his best game this season throwing for over 400 yards in a close game.

28-24 Texans

If JAX scores 24 on the D, we are in DEEP trouble.

thunderkyss 11-02-2011 03:34 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 1818103)
But why have the Texans struggled in November's past? My feeling is that the collars on Kirby just got a little tighter during this part of the season. That can't happen this year.

I think it has to do with other coaches getting recent tape on the Texans. It's easy to say, "Don't bite on the play action." Early in the season. But after you watch 8 weeks of tape, the message kind of sinks in.

robroy72 11-02-2011 06:23 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Kubes apparently has something like a 28-3 record when the texans run the ball more than 30 times in a game. Since it sounds like we won't have Andre for a while more, maybe this is the record that will take precedence!

IDEXAN 11-02-2011 07:21 AM

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Maybe relevant in the past but this year November is irrelavant as it includes the bye week and therefor only 3 games, 2 of which the Texans could very easily lose and still be in good shape. The real show-stopper for the 2011 season could be the post-November schedule when we play the last 5 game, atleast 4 of which we should win.

TimeKiller 11-02-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck (Post 1818125)
Execution has been better.

:kubepalm:

Agreed.

This is a good thread. Besides that it's about football, I made a similar post about how the Texans never beat both Titans AND Jaguars in their first games, which are always back to back. Before this year, it ALWAYS broke the Texans back, led them to a losing streak like the one described here.

Except this year, they won both games, are atop the AFC South in dominating fashion and are now on to the easiest portion of their schedule. Oh and there's a bye week and to my knowledge we haven't lost a bye week yet lol....

Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.

Runner 11-02-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robroy72 (Post 1818139)
Kubes apparently has something like a 28-3 record when the texans run the ball more than 30 times in a game. Since it sounds like we won't have Andre for a while more, maybe this is the record that will take precedence!

1) Wade as defensive coordinator
2) Talented offensive players
3) Easy remaining schedule
4) Ultra-weak division
5) Injuries defining offensive game plan

Kubiak Proof!

redwhiteANDblue 11-02-2011 08:15 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
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Originally Posted by TimeKiller (Post 1818150)
Agreed.

This is a good thread. Besides that it's about football, I made a similar post about how the Texans never beat both Titans AND Jaguars in their first games, which are always back to back. Before this year, it ALWAYS broke the Texans back, led them to a losing streak like the one described here.

Except this year, they won both games, are atop the AFC South in dominating fashion and are now on to the easiest portion of their schedule. Oh and there's a bye week and to my knowledge we haven't lost a bye week yet lol....

Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.

Haven't lost a bye week yet? How could you forget the string of heart breaking losses in 2009! We went to the colts and it came down to kris browns field goal to tie it up but he missed and we lost 17-20. Then the bye week. After the bye week we had a Monday night game against titans which we lost in the same way! It came down to a kris brown field goal to go to overtime but he missed and we lost 17-20!

thunderkyss 11-02-2011 08:15 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeKiller (Post 1818150)
Who is it, Cleveland, Tampa...a bye...and...the Bengals? Right?

That should be at least 2 wins, well, it SHOULD be 3. I'll take 7-4/8-3.

Cleveland, @Tampa, bye, @Jags.....

Vinny 11-02-2011 08:53 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
In the past the Texans looked outcoached come November. At this time of the year teams have plenty of tape to review and I think that this team doesn't have near as many coaching flaws on defense and Wade has the ability to hide weak players without taking away from the teams strengths. "Finishing" is a theme this year, but "finishing" is merely being opportunistic, aggressive and outmaneuvering the rival coach. I think Kubiak was a slave to his conventions and that hurt him. What I mean by that is that is that he would do stuff like run right into the teeth of the defense on 4th down with a less physical zone blocking unit that had defenders in every gap and pass up a chip shot FG then go on to lose by a point. At the end of the game Kubiak would just rationalize some talking point about how you have to be able to get a yard. Well, that's all great in theory but rationalizations don't get the yard or the win. I think Kubiak still doesn't make great strategic decisions, but it seems like he has learned a little with all his failures....either that or I'm just drinking a little too much of the kewl-aide.

XI CMURDER IX 11-02-2011 09:09 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
I don't know about everyone else, but the new Baconalia menu will be the difference this November.

Kthx 11-02-2011 09:14 AM

Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
 
To be fair I have a huge critic of Kubiak, I have wanted him fired for the last three years(ish) but this year his coaching has actually improved somewhat. It seems like every game we are changing up the plays we are running, we might come out one game and toss 5 deep balls to keep the other team honest or we might come out running, we might kill em with the tight ends all game. I know the play calling on downs has been sorta obvious but it seems like game to game Kubiak is really changing how our offense is ran based on the other teams weakness. I am not going to sit here and say hes the coach for the Texans future and is the best coach ever but I have to give credit when it is due here.

Oh and by this I mean I think we will be fine this November despite the past.

Thorn 11-02-2011 09:21 AM

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Re: The Elephant in the room (Kubiak's November record)
We are fixing to find out if that elephant is still there. If it is, it needs to be shot, blown up, and the carcass gotten the hell rid of.

But if that elephant has left the room, then we are drinking koolaid and eating doughnuts all the way to the playoffs.


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