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76Texan 07-17-2011 05:31 PM

Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Previously, I had mentioned that Jackson was a victim of the two-receiver pattern quite a few times.

It involves a cover 3 scheme for the defense.
The receiver that KJ lined up on would run some sort of an inside route (whether a skinny post or a post route.)
The receiver (or TE) on the opposite side of the field (Quin covering) would run a crossing route through the middle.

The single safety in the middle can either step down on the crossing route or stay deep to help Jackson defend the inside route.
If the safety steps down too quickly, the QB would go long with nobody to man the middle.
Unless the other CB (Quin) quickly moves up top to take the place of the safety, Jackson becomes the goat.

The Texans actually did it right once, where Quin was about to collect an INT, only to have Nolan also got back and deflected the pass into the receiver's hands.

76Texan 07-17-2011 05:36 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
The Texans offense was no stranger to this pattern; they ran it successfully a few times themselves.

One example is the 53-yd defensive inteference that the Colts CB had to commit in week one to avoid a longer TD pass.

Here are some screen shots to depict the play.

The Colts originally showed cover 2.
I simply depict the LCB as Jackson and the RCB as Quin.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...1/1-Cover2.jpg

76Texan 07-17-2011 05:39 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
The Texans were in a 2-TE, single back set.
Foster would fake a run to the right;
The FS would step down to play the run.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...Scomesdown.jpg

76Texan 07-17-2011 05:44 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Walter run the skinny post;
the LCB (Jackson) would turn him in toward the middle and trailed to the outside, guarding the corner route or a come-backer.

AJ ran the crossing route.
The SS would step down to check him.
The RCB (Quin) hesiatated a bit (he needed to be sure that AJ ws not to come back to his side) before he head up top to take over the SS place in the middle.
A little hesitation was all it took.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...1SlantPost.jpg

76Texan 07-17-2011 05:49 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
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76Texan 07-17-2011 05:52 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
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76Texan 07-17-2011 05:54 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
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76Texan 07-17-2011 05:59 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Now we know that Walter doesn't have elite speed. yet he had to come to an almost-complete stop to wait for the ball.
Only then that the LCB can arrive to jump all over him for a PI to prevent the catch.
Is that CB (Hayden) a turtle?

76Texan 07-17-2011 06:02 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Here's the view from the end zone as Walter released inside.
We can see the SS came down to play the crossing route.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ontheslanr.jpg

76Texan 07-17-2011 06:05 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Here we can see the SS cutting off the crossing route;
A LB also dropped back to help underneath.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...Doubleteam.jpg


In the meantime, Walter had got great separation from the LCB while the RCB was still a long way off.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...tedropkick.jpg

76Texan 07-17-2011 06:08 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Here's the sequence of play:

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ap-2972030.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ap-2972043.jpg

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76Texan 07-17-2011 06:11 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Now Walter stemmed outide, threatening a corner route.
The LCB had no choice but to honor it.


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http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ap-2972095.jpg

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76Texan 07-17-2011 06:15 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
As Walter turned back to the inside, he naturally got separation from the LCB.
This guy simply doesn't know which way the receiver was going.
Remember that this was not man coverage (because the other CB never followed AJ on the crossing route.)


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76Texan 07-17-2011 06:18 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
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76Texan 07-17-2011 06:20 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
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76Texan 07-17-2011 06:24 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
To sum it up, if Schaub had hit Walter in stride, that would have been an easy TD and Hayden would look just like Kareem Jackson.

I'm saying that it makes absolutely no sense to let a receiver release inside without help.
There's just too much ground for a CB to cover, especially when he doesn't know whcih way the ball is going to go; only the offense knows.

I've said before that it doesn't matter if you have Namdi covering that route, he would be at a disadvantage just the same.
(Don't think so? You just wait and see!)

EllisUnit 07-17-2011 06:42 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 1725504)
To sum it up, if Schaub had hit Walter in stride, that would have been an easy TD and Hayden would look just like Kareem Jackson.

I'm saying that it makes absolutely no sense to let a receiver release inside without help.
There's just too much ground for a CB to cover, especially when he doesn't know whcih way the ball is going to go; only the offense knows.

I've said before that it doesn't matter if you have Namdi covering that route, he would be at a disadvantage just the same.
(Don't think so? You just wait and see!)

hmmmm jackson was always reading the back of the WR he was coverings jersey. I dont see how thats anyone fault but his own. Forget the safties if a CB always has to depend on a safety for help than that guy shouldnt be playing CB. One on one, we have seen many good CBs be able to cover a guy with no help over the top. Hell Aaron Gleen had Matt Stevens back there for help and he went to the pro bowl.

TimeKiller 07-17-2011 07:54 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Seriously? ANOTHER cry for attention? It's getting sad dude.

thunderkyss 07-17-2011 08:47 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 1725504)
To sum it up, if Schaub had hit Walter in stride, that would have been an easy TD and Hayden would look just like Kareem Jackson.

I'm saying that it makes absolutely no sense to let a receiver release inside without help.
There's just too much ground for a CB to cover, especially when he doesn't know whcih way the ball is going to go; only the offense knows.

I've said before that it doesn't matter if you have Namdi covering that route, he would be at a disadvantage just the same.
(Don't think so? You just wait and see!)

So, basically you're saying if Schaub could learn to hit our receivers in stride, we would have won more games & Walter would look like a legit #2 ?



:kitten:

DocBar 07-17-2011 09:43 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson's plight.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1725547)
So, basically you're saying if Schaub could learn to hit our receivers in stride, we would have won more games & Walter would look like a legit #2 ?



:kitten:

I don't think you can "learn" how to have a laser-rocket-cannon of an arm. It's like speed. Either you have it, or you don't. Schaub doesn't.
Nice thread, 76. You exposed a weakness in coverage and provided unequivocal evidence of Schaub lacking the said laser-rocket-cannon arm.


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