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ThaShark316 12-07-2010 11:41 AM

Kareem Jackson
 
How's he been the last few weeks?

I haven't really heard his name much, if at all, the last couple games.

m5kwatts 12-07-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
He's been our best defensive back for the most of the season IMO. He's been more than solid lately. He's not been a part of the secondary problems lately.

HOU-TEX 12-07-2010 11:53 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by m5kwatts (Post 1602198)
He's been our best defensive back for the most of the season IMO. He's been more than solid lately. He's not been a part of the secondary problems lately.

It might have something to do with him not being on the field as much, no? Allen has taken a lot of his playing time recently. Best defensive back? Ha, nope, less reps gives him less of a chance to fall down or get torched by double moves

76Texan 12-07-2010 12:24 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by m5kwatts (Post 1602198)
He's been our best defensive back for the most of the season IMO. He's been more than solid lately. He's not been a part of the secondary problems lately.

I agree!
I believe KJ has been our best CB from day one.
Hou-Tex just wants a pinata he can beat on from time to time! :ant:

When I have time (probably after the season), I will come back and put together all my notes for all to see, I promise (I hope I have the time).

ThaShark316 12-07-2010 12:28 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1602208)
It might have something to do with him not being on the field as much, no? Allen has taken a lot of his playing time recently. Best defensive back? Ha, nope, less reps gives him less of a chance to fall down or get torched by double moves

McCain falls more than Jackson. Just saying.

HOU-TEX 12-07-2010 12:31 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 1602242)
I agree!
I believe KJ has been our best CB from day one.
Hou-Tex just wants a pinata he can beat on from time to time! :ant:

When I have time (probably after the season), I will come back and put together all my notes for all to see, I promise (I hope I have the time).

Our safety's are actually worse, but both Quin and Allen have outplayed KJ. Which is why Allen has taken playing time away from KJ, no? I mean, I know our defensive coaching sucks, but would any coach take playing time away from their "best CB"?

76Texan 12-07-2010 12:35 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1602252)
Our safety's are actually worse, but both Quin and Allen have outplayed KJ. Which is why Allen has taken playing time away from KJ, no? I mean, I know our defensive coaching sucks, but would any coach take playing time away from their "best CB"?

No, they are rotating them.
Remember Allen was a higher draft pick than KJ.

Quin, with his recent good plays, earns playing time (I'm sure Kubiak is from that school of thought.)

Once again, I believe that you need to watch all the details to see that KJ is a very solid player (more so than both Quin and Allen).

It was funny when I read that some posters thought the Texans roll coverage over to help him out while I saw that (on the play where Pollard almost intercept the ball in the end zone), KJ was left to defend two receivers, LOL!

HOU-TEX 12-07-2010 12:49 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 1602260)
No, they are rotating them.
Remember Allen was a higher draft pick than KJ.

Quin, with his recent good plays, earns playing time (I'm sure Kubiak is from that school of thought.)

Once again, I believe that you need to watch all the details to see that KJ is a very solid player (more so than both Quin and Allen).

It was funny when I read that some posters thought the Texans roll coverage over to help him out while I saw that (on the play where Pollard almost intercept the ball in the end zone), KJ was left to defend two receivers, LOL!

I know they're rotating them. Which is why I said he was losing playing time to Allen. If you truly beleive they're playing Allen more due to draft status, I've got a bridge to sell ya. :worldpeace:

76Texan 12-07-2010 01:04 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 1602274)
I know they're rotating them. Which is why I said he was losing playing time to Allen. If you truly beleive they're playing Allen more due to draft status, I've got a bridge to sell ya. :worldpeace:

Teams have got to be in their nickel a lot in the NFL.
Quin has experience in the slot.
Allen is a decent CB that went through a few coaching changes in Miami.
He doesn't have the hips to turn (therefore the shuffle or the bail technique).
Week 12 (plus the PS) is already longer than a college season.
I don't see any big deal with rotating them.

Same thing as with Duane Brown, I didn't think he should start and play all game at the beginning. But they let him, and guess what, they ended up having whatshisname spell Brown on every third series later in the season that year.

Some guy can be a freak like Cushing and can play a lot.
Hey but who knows what's the real reason there! :thinking:

(However I bet that when you rewind the tapes, you will find Cushing with hands on his hips in certain games.)

SheTexan 12-08-2010 08:00 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m5kwatts (Post 1602198)
He's been our best defensive back for the most of the season IMO. He's been more than solid lately. He's not been a part of the secondary problems lately.

Laughable!! If he's the "best" we can do we might as well forfeit the rest of the season, esp since he sure did a good job of screwing up the first 13 games!! COMPLETE waste of a first round pick!! JMO!! He is absolutely the WORST CB this team has ever had!!

ThaShark316 12-08-2010 08:09 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by SheTexan (Post 1603529)
Laughable!! If he's the "best" we can do we might as well forfeit the rest of the season, esp since he sure did a good job of screwing up the first 13 games!! COMPLETE waste of a first round pick!! JMO!! He is absolutely the WORST CB this team has ever had!!

Damn I love my sig...

Andre_Johnson 12-08-2010 11:56 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 1602304)
Same thing as with Duane Brown, I didn't think he should start and play all game at the beginning. But they let him, and guess what, they ended up having whatshisname spell Brown on every third series later in the season that year.

Rashad Butler, he did more than "spell" Brown, he started in those 4 games while Brown was suspended.

Allstar 12-09-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Andre_Johnson (Post 1603686)
Rashad Butler, he did more than "spell" Brown, he started in those 4 games while Brown was suspended.

No, he's referring to Ephram Salaam during Brown's rookie season.

imatexan 12-09-2010 03:01 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 1603539)
Damn I love my sig...

Shetexan is not that far off, KJ has still has had a terrible season. Just because he has been "better" these last few games still does not amount to being close to a good NFL Cornerback.

TexCanada 12-09-2010 03:10 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by imatexan (Post 1603727)
Shetexan is not that far off, KJ has still has had a terrible season. Just because he has been "better" these last few games still does not amount to being close to a good NFL Corner back.

Why would we possibly expect him top be a "good NFL cornerback"? You do realize he is a rookie with a terrible coaching staff right? Sure, he has made some mistakes, but what exactly were your expectations for him?

SheTexan 12-09-2010 07:15 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 1603539)
Damn I love my sig...

Yep, you sure can, and you seem to be the #1 fan!! Now, I don't like insulting posters, and look at this board as a means of expressing an opinion, and sometimes a way of venting a lot of frustration, which we all seem to have right now. NO where in my post did I say there was not hope for KJ! I'm a firm supporter of ALL Texan players, whether I like them or not. As long as they wear a Texan jersey they are one of my "boys!" But, that does not make them all good players! KJs failure to succeed this year is a reflection on Bush/Kubiak, IMHO, and the abuse they put him through just might be the thing that will kill his career. Who knows, but, THIS YEAR, he truly sucked!!

BTW: What bowl is UT playing in this year??? Hummmm, I'm so "stup*d" I can't seem to find one listed!:um:;)

HuttoKarl 12-09-2010 09:39 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by TexCanada (Post 1603728)
Why would we possibly expect him top be a "good NFL cornerback"? You do realize he is a rookie with a terrible coaching staff right? Sure, he has made some mistakes, but what exactly were your expectations for him?

I expected an interception every time he's been thrown at and a tackle on every other play. Is that so difficult?

HOU-TEX 12-09-2010 10:10 AM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
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Originally Posted by SheTexan (Post 1603738)
Yep, you sure can, and you seem to be the #1 fan!! Now, I don't like insulting posters, and look at this board as a means of expressing an opinion, and sometimes a way of venting a lot of frustration, which we all seem to have right now. NO where in my post did I say there was not hope for KJ! I'm a firm supporter of ALL Texan players, whether I like them or not. As long as they wear a Texan jersey they are one of my "boys!" But, that does not make them all good players! KJs failure to succeed this year is a reflection on Bush/Kubiak, IMHO, and the abuse they put him through just might be the thing that will kill his career. Who knows, but, THIS YEAR, he truly sucked!!

BTW: What bowl is UT playing in this year??? Hummmm, I'm so "stup*d" I can't seem to find one listed!:um:;)

+ Rep from Mr. HOU-TEX

Esoom 12-09-2010 04:29 PM

Re: Kareem Jackson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheTexan (Post 1603738)
Yep, you sure can, and you seem to be the #1 fan!! Now, I don't like insulting posters, and look at this board as a means of expressing an opinion, and sometimes a way of venting a lot of frustration, which we all seem to have right now. NO where in my post did I say there was not hope for KJ! I'm a firm supporter of ALL Texan players, whether I like them or not. As long as they wear a Texan jersey they are one of my "boys!" But, that does not make them all good players! KJs failure to succeed this year is a reflection on Bush/Kubiak, IMHO, and the abuse they put him through just might be the thing that will kill his career. Who knows, but, THIS YEAR, he truly sucked!!

BTW: What bowl is UT playing in this year??? Hummmm, I'm so "stup*d" I can't seem to find one listed!:um:;)

Saying that Kareem Jackson was a waste of a pick without even letting him finish his first NFL season kind of implies that you believe there is no hope for him. And to call him the worst cornerback that the Texans have ever had when he's only played 13 professional games is laughable. He has shown improvement throughout the season, and still has a good chance of developing into a good, or at least adequate, NFL cornerback.

ChrisG 12-09-2010 04:32 PM

I have been hard on kareem jackson this year. But hopefully he will learn and develop into a good corner. If he had sum decent help over the top I think he would b a lot better


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