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stingray 04-19-2010 09:11 AM

Pat Kirwan's final mock (three rounds)
 
I like the first two not so much the third....

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20. Houston Texans
Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
Wilson is a very confident guy who claims he's the best corner in the draft. Wilson is not afraid to come up and make a tackle, and is also a fine return man. His week at the Senior Bowl helped his draft status immensely.

51. Houston Texans
Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
The Texans skipped over a running back in the first round and now grab a guy who averaged 6.2 yards per carry and scored 35 times in his college career. He has Jonathan Stewart skills.

81. Houston Texans
Al Woods, DT, LSU
At 6-foot-4 and 309 pounds, Woods is a decent "one-technique" tackle to play in a rotation, especially on run downs.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...s&confirm=true

Blake 04-19-2010 10:22 AM

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Sign me up. Although I would rather take a safety in round 3.

thunderkyss 04-19-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1409711)
Sign me up. Although I would rather take a safety in round 3.

I'm good with this mock, I don't understand the safety thing...

In years past, I could understand the debate. But Eugene Wilson & Bernard Pollard ought to give us at least another year or two to get a Safety.

I don't recall ever seeing a "Where does Eugene Wilson stand right now?" thread.

Blake 04-19-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1409804)
I'm good with this mock, I don't understand the safety thing...

In years past, I could understand the debate. But Eugene Wilson & Bernard Pollard ought to give us at least another year or two to get a Safety.

I don't recall ever seeing a "Where does Eugene Wilson stand right now?" thread.

Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.

TexCanada 04-19-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1409807)
Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.

Exactly. As it stands right now, one injury to a player in our secondary could very well mean the end of our season. Its just that thin back there.

Wolf6151 04-19-2010 12:15 PM

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I'm ok with the first 2 picks but Al Woods in the 3rd sucks, IMO he's a 4th or 5th rounder for depth and rotation only. I'd also rather see a FS or OG/C in the 3rd.

JB 04-19-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 1409815)
I'm ok with the first 2 picks but Al Woods in the 3rd sucks, IMO he's a 4th or 5th rounder for depth and rotation only. I'd also rather see a FS or OG/C in the 3rd.

I think Woods is probably a 3rd rounder

Much rather have Houston or Troup

painekiller 04-19-2010 08:26 PM

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If you really want to fix the running game you go
1 Mike Iupati, G, Idaho or Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
2 John Jerry, G/OT, Mississippi
3 Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee

Now this ignores the defense backs that are there... but your running game would improve.

thunderkyss 04-19-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1409807)
Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.

Who do we have in front of Amobi & Cody?

It would be nice to have one starter in front of them.

Just one...

thunderkyss 04-19-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 1410193)
If you really want to fix the running game you go
1 Mike Iupati, G, Idaho or Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
2 John Jerry, G/OT, Mississippi
3 Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee

Now this ignores the defense backs that are there... but your running game would improve.

Are we expecting Hardesty to be the guy, or the 3rd down guy?

painekiller 04-20-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1410276)
Are we expecting Hardesty to be the guy, or the 3rd down guy?

This looks like a solid RB for the NFL.

Goldensilence 04-20-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 1409804)
I'm good with this mock, I don't understand the safety thing...

In years past, I could understand the debate. But Eugene Wilson & Bernard Pollard ought to give us at least another year or two to get a Safety.

I don't recall ever seeing a "Where does Eugene Wilson stand right now?" thread.

Don't get why people on the board seem high on Wilson. He's not terrible ,but it's not like he has the position sewed up.

http://www.nfl.com/players/eugenewil...e?id=WIL686587

Looking at the past two seasons he hasn't even finished or started one healthy. In the mean time we've been stuck hoping guys like Busing, Barber and Nick Ferguson could hold the spot down.

No qualms about Pollard. The cat brings it.

dalemurphy 04-20-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 1410391)

He has a lot of nice runs but I don't think he's an NFL player. I think his balance is inconsistent. Also, if you watch how many times he lands very hard and awkwardly on the turf, without being hit hard, you get a sense of why he has injury problems. I think balance at RB is key. When a back has good balance, then a CB hitting his shin at 8 yards won't send him flopping to the turf. Or, when he busts through the line, he won't basically trip forward and tackle himself for an 8 yard gain if his balance is right.

Not only would I draft guys like Tate and Dwyer before Hardesty, but I'd draft Alex Henderson from Northern Arizona well before I'd consider Hardesty.

steelbtexan 04-20-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 1410391)

PK: After watching 8 yrs of bad footbaall I wish the Texans had one side of the football they could hang their hat on.

You're mock would give them that.

You could draft another RB late.

IDEXAN 04-20-2010 07:14 AM

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I would take Tate, Gerhardt, or Hardesty before Dwyer who's got good size but dosen't run as if he did.

kiwitexansfan 04-20-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JB (Post 1409821)
I think Woods is probably a 3rd rounder

Much rather have Houston or Troup

Both second rounders I expect.

kastofsna 04-20-2010 10:07 AM

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Miami going defense with their two picks, sounds good to me

dalemurphy 04-20-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 1410457)
I would take Tate, Gerhardt, or Hardesty before Dwyer who's got good size but dosen't run as if he did.

I can understand why some people would be concerned about Dwyer. But, certainly, it isn't a lack of physicality.

nero THE zero 04-20-2010 12:44 PM

Re: Pat Kirwan's final mock (three rounds)
 
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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1409807)
Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.

Dom Barber?

I'm not saying we don't need a safety, but it's not the end of the world if we don't pick a safety in the first three rounds. Especially if we draft a CB in the first, like this mock says.

Afterall, that leaves us with Wilson, Quin, Reeves, McCain, Bennett, Molden, and other possible picks/FA at CB. That opens up the possibility of trying either Molden or Quin at FS. It also doesn't preclude us from drafting a FS in the 4th.

There are plenty of viable options at S behind Wilson if we don't draft a S in the first 3 rounds.

nero THE zero 04-20-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 1410457)
I would take Tate, Gerhardt, or Hardesty before Dwyer who's got good size but dosen't run as if he did.

Have you ever watched a GT game?

(That's rhetorical, obviously you haven't.)


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