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Honoring Earl 34 12-07-2009 08:29 PM

A Mock Mock Here
 
I'm going to a 3-4 and need a NG .

1. Mount Cody other possibility CB Haden from Florida if we totally stink it up .

2. Brandon Ghee other choice will be Dan Williams if we draft Haden .

3. Toby Gerhart other Anthony Dixon or Charles Scott .

Or one of these .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1OaSHUX9s

The Cush 12-07-2009 11:55 PM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

Honoring Earl 34 12-08-2009 07:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cush (Post 1319393)
Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

In my 3-4 , you need a NG .

Honoring Earl 34 12-08-2009 08:09 PM

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Hold the presses , found new prospects .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYiV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hBA...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znzzO...eature=related

On a serious note .

Quote:

“I’m pretty ticked off about the whole thing. The offensive line is costing this whole team right now, so we got to stop. (Ryan) Mallett’s back there, standing there, getting hit every play and that’s on us. It’s not one player; it’s a reflection of all of us. That’s gotta change. That’s unacceptable. This crap happened last year. It’s gotta stop. You got to make up your mind what you’re going to put into it. Our guys are going to get it right. We got some young guys in there playing. We got (Anthony) Oden in there playing right now, but he’s playing hard. We got to eliminate the mental mistakes.”
http://hogblog.nwaonline.net/2009/09...us-uncensored/

BigBull17 12-09-2009 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cush (Post 1319393)
Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

If he makes an impact and makes top 10 vs the run, Ill take it.

badboy 12-10-2009 11:22 AM

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You better hope your linebackers can impact the QB because Cody will never touch him. Dan Williams on the other hand is 6'2" 327, often takes on two blockers and actually gets into the QB's personal space occasionally. Hope your guy does not explode into a marshmallow. How do you project your defensive line and backers in your 3-4?

TheRealJoker 12-17-2009 08:15 PM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
I highly doubt that Gerhart falls out of the first round. Drafnicks' thoughts on him remind me of when Larry Johnson came out. Johnson was a highly productive back in college (2,000 yards in a season) but was thought to be "too slow" to be a franchise back. This caused him to drop out of the top 10 but he got picked up in the late first round.

I think Gerhart will also be picked in the late 1st round, and I hope its the Texans who end up getting him!!!

badboy 12-18-2009 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealJoker (Post 1327057)
I highly doubt that Gerhart falls out of the first round. Drafnicks' thoughts on him remind me of when Larry Johnson came out. Johnson was a highly productive back in college (2,000 yards in a season) but was thought to be "too slow" to be a franchise back. This caused him to drop out of the top 10 but he got picked up in the late first round.

I think Gerhart will also be picked in the late 1st round, and I hope its the Texans who end up getting him!!!

I'm hoping Toby does ok at combine then quickly fades from memory of 31 other teams. I think Spiller and Jonathan Dwyer may go ahead of him. I hope so if we draft later. It is still early, but I have him projected to us in 3rd. Hard runners with stats sometimes fall. He has moved up to 3rd on NFLdraftscout.com behind Spiller and Anthony Dixon. This list does not include juniors.

Honoring Earl 34 12-18-2009 09:24 AM

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I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

rmartin65 12-18-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 1327214)
I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

I really dislike when people pull out lists like this. There are dozens of busts from these rounds too. Fact is, good players from all positions get drafted in all rounds. Yes you can find quality RB's in the middle of the draft, but you can find quality players at other positions as well. It all depends on who you think fills a need best.

rmartin65 12-18-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 1327186)
I'm hoping Toby does ok at combine then quickly fades from memory of 31 other teams. I think Spiller and Jonathan Dwyer may go ahead of him. I hope so if we draft later. It is still early, but I have him projected to us in 3rd. Hard runners with stats sometimes fall. He has moved up to 3rd on NFLdraftscout.com behind Spiller and Anthony Dixon. This list does not include juniors.

If Toby runs in the mid 4.5's, I think he will last to the second round. Times between 4.55 and 4.57 get him in the second. If he miraculously runs in the 4.4s, he is a first rounder.

People just see his size and assume he is a straight line back. He has very good agility, he is going to impress at the combine and pro day.

Honoring Earl 34 12-18-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rmartin65 (Post 1327346)
I really dislike when people pull out lists like this. There are dozens of busts from these rounds too. Fact is, good players from all positions get drafted in all rounds. Yes you can find quality RB's in the middle of the draft, but you can find quality players at other positions as well. It all depends on who you think fills a need best.

That's true but a RBs value is based so much on his 40 time . He could be really good in college but run a 4.65 and he drops . The thing you can't account for is vision and toughness .

badboy 12-18-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rmartin65 (Post 1327351)
If Toby runs in the mid 4.5's, I think he will last to the second round. Times between 4.55 and 4.57 get him in the second. If he miraculously runs in the 4.4s, he is a first rounder.

People just see his size and assume he is a straight line back. He has very good agility, he is going to impress at the combine and pro day.

I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

Honoring Earl 34 12-18-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 1327393)
I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/814...FD13ED7B73D4BC

badboy 12-18-2009 11:49 AM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 1327214)
I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

Why did Smith not draft a running back in 4th or 5th? He had stated that RB was a priority need.

rmartin65 12-18-2009 12:01 PM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 1327393)
I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

Haha, let me know if the guy needs any more funds. I would be willing to cough up some money to get Toby on the team.

I see what you are saying, but I still think speed is a deciding factor. For some teams more than others. That said, I think Gerhart is a first round talent. A team is going to get a huge boost next year, I hope it is the Texans.

beerlover 12-18-2009 12:04 PM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 1327404)
Why did Smith not draft a running back in 4th or 5th? He had stated that RB was a priority need.

he knew that injurys would devastate much vaunted depth @ TE so he needed to double up :)

badboy 12-18-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 1327399)

Now thats funny right there.:lol:

badboy 12-18-2009 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 1327428)
he knew that injurys would devastate much vaunted depth @ TE so he needed to double up :)

So that is where my crystal ball went.

Goldensilence 12-18-2009 02:20 PM

Re: A Mock Mock Here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 1327214)
I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

Problem is only one of them has turned into a franchise caliber type back and that's Turner.


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