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brakos82 05-25-2009 08:34 PM

Sausage King "Making it Rain"
 
Vince Young, Makin’ It Rain
Posted by Mike Florio on May 25, 2009, 12:39 p.m. EDT
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/25/...-makin-it-rain/

Of all the players who have worn a Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Tennessee Titans helmet over the last 50 years, the last one that current backup quarterback and 2006 top-three draft pick Vince Young should be emulating is Pacman Jones.

But Young recently paid homage to Pacman recently, “making it rain” over the crowd (actually, it was more like a light sprinkle) at a Nelly concert, according to TMZ.com.

It really wasn’t all that troubling of a display, but in light of the all-male-shirtless-tequila-party-fueled perception that Young hasn’t taken his NFL career sufficiently seriously, he needs to avoid any situations that could create the impression that the guy hasn’t changed.
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CloakNNNdagger 05-26-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by brakos82 (Post 1187700)
Vince Young, Makin’ It Rain
Posted by Mike Florio on May 25, 2009, 12:39 p.m. EDT
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/25/...-makin-it-rain/

Of all the players who have worn a Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Tennessee Titans helmet over the last 50 years, the last one that current backup quarterback and 2006 top-three draft pick Vince Young should be emulating is Pacman Jones.

But Young recently paid homage to Pacman recently, “making it rain” over the crowd (actually, it was more like a light sprinkle) at a Nelly concert, according to TMZ.com.

It really wasn’t all that troubling of a display, but in light of the all-male-shirtless-tequila-party-fueled perception that Young hasn’t taken his NFL career sufficiently seriously, he needs to avoid any situations that could create the impression that the guy hasn’t changed.
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Just practice for the big time.........La Bare.:cool:

Texecutioner 05-26-2009 09:19 AM

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So VY was having a good time throwing money around at a concert like a gazillion other over paid athletes do in clubs and concerts all of the time? This is a non story.

drewmar74 05-26-2009 11:53 AM

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Last time I made it rain we had to take one of my friends to the hospital with an eye injury.

Turns out that throwing nickels and pennies up into the air can be dangerous.....

Polo 05-26-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by drewmar74 (Post 1187857)
Last time I made it rain we had to take one of my friends to the hospital with an eye injury.

Turns out that throwing nickels and pennies up into the air can be dangerous.....

That's called making it hail...

brakos82 05-26-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drewmar74 (Post 1187857)
Last time I made it rain we had to take one of my friends to the hospital with an eye injury.

Turns out that throwing nickels and pennies up into the air can be dangerous.....

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Originally Posted by Polo (Post 1187858)
That's called making it hail...

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Texans_Chick 05-29-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1187784)
So VY was having a good time throwing money around at a concert like a gazillion other over paid athletes do in clubs and concerts all of the time? This is a non story.

It's a story when a player is a NFL quarterback who is getting paid zillions to sit on the bench and says he has his priorities straight. The rules are different for quarterbacks. It's a story when "Making it rain" is profanity to the Titans organization and its fans.

My take: Vince Young Making It Rain

In part:

Quote:

"Young made it really clear last year that the attention given to a NFL quarterback isn't going to stop him from going out and having fun. Which, I guess is part of the reason why Kerry Collins is the starting quarterback of the Tennessee Titans despite only having 2,676 passing yards (167.2 yards per game average), and a 58.3 completion percentage last year."
Zing.

Honoring Earl 34 05-29-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick (Post 1189388)
It's a story when a player is a NFL quarterback who is getting paid zillions to sit on the bench and says he has his priorities straight. The rules are different for quarterbacks. It's a story when "Making it rain" is profanity to the Titans organization and its fans.

My take: Vince Young Making It Rain

In part:



Zing.

He's guaranteed a boatload of money but I think he gets cut next year .

Texecutioner 05-29-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick (Post 1189388)
It's a story when a player is a NFL quarterback who is getting paid zillions to sit on the bench and says he has his priorities straight. The rules are different for quarterbacks. It's a story when "Making it rain" is profanity to the Titans organization and its fans.

My take: Vince Young Making It Rain

In part:



Zing.

It's not a story. He's a grown man. Who cares if he's a QB. So because he's a QB, he can't go to the club, have a few drinks, and throw some money around? It's not some "uncommon thing" for peopel to do that in night clubs. I've seen people do that plenty of times. A few buddies and I did it in Vegas a few years back at the Moon hotel at the Palms because we were having fun and cutting loose. We weren't hurting anyone. If VY or any other athlete wants to give some money away and have fun while doing it, it shouldn't be a problem. This has nothing to do with his play on the field or his reputation, except for people that are looking for something to criticize him for.

Texan JBZ 05-29-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189499)
It's not a story. He's a grown man. Who cares if he's a QB. So because he's a QB, he can't go to the club, have a few drinks, and throw some money around? It's not some "uncommon thing" for peopel to do that in night clubs. I've seen people do that plenty of times. A few buddies and I did it in Vegas a few years back at the Moon hotel at the Palms because we were having fun and cutting loose. We weren't hurting anyone. If VY or any other athlete wants to give some money away and have fun while doing it, it shouldn't be a problem. This has nothing to do with his play on the field or his reputation, except for people that are looking for something to criticize him for.

Well, yes and no. Sure he can do these things if he wants to, but he shouldn't. Steph is right, being a NFL QB is a totally different beast. You simply can't do some of the things that other athletes do. Look at Romo and his trip to Cabo before the playoff game. If that were any other player at any other position, it wouldn't have been news. Like it or not, NFL QBs are held to a different standard. Vince has yet to figure that out, which is probably why his career is at a crossroads right now.

HOU-TEX 05-29-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 1189473)
He's guaranteed a boatload of money but I think he gets cut next year .

Or restructure his contract, which I'd expect to happen before they cut him.

Texan_Bill 05-29-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189499)
It's not a story. He's a grown man. Who cares if he's a QB. So because he's a QB, he can't go to the club, have a few drinks, and throw some money around? It's not some "uncommon thing" for peopel to do that in night clubs. I've seen people do that plenty of times. A few buddies and I did it in Vegas a few years back at the Moon hotel at the Palms because we were having fun and cutting loose. We weren't hurting anyone. If VY or any other athlete wants to give some money away and have fun while doing it, it shouldn't be a problem. This has nothing to do with his play on the field or his reputation, except for people that are looking for something to criticize him for.

:hmmm: So if I'm a team mate and I see my quarterback and implied team leader (because it comes with that position), going to sausage parties, hanging out in clubs and making it rain, I would be anxious to play for the guy? I think not.

Remember Willie "Steamin'" Beaman after acting a fool?

Cap Rooney: "They won't play for him Tony"

Texecutioner 05-29-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Texan JBZ (Post 1189506)
Well, yes and no. Sure he can do these things if he wants to, but he shouldn't. Steph is right, being a NFL QB is a totally different beast. You simply can't do some of the things that other athletes do. Look at Romo and his trip to Cabo before the playoff game. If that were any other player at any other position, it wouldn't have been news. Like it or not, NFL QBs are held to a different standard. Vince has yet to figure that out, which is probably why his career is at a crossroads right now.

See now you're buying into the media and the stuff they tout out there. There was nothing wrong with Romo going to Cabo either. Romo went out of town to relax for a few days when he had a full week off. Players do that all of the time, and the only reason why that got out is because he was with Jessica SImpson, and the media never reported how Witten was there the entire time as well. Just because the media creates this garbage that this guy can't do that and that guy can't do that just because he's a QB, but the WR's of the NFL are allowed to be these divas who are known for all sorts of other wild ventures is okay? That is silly.

I don't hold these QB's to any higher standards just because "the media" tries to get everyone else to. If they can do activities outside of football and still come to work and do what they're supposed to do, then I could care less what they're doing with their time as long as they're not breaking the law and doing things that will put them in jail.

Criticizing a guy for haing a few drinks and making it rain for a few seconds in the club sounds pretty Skip Balylessish to me. I guess next we'll be saying that QB's shouldn't be able to go to night clubs because they're held to a higher standard or maybe we should give them all curfews from now on.

Texecutioner 05-29-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill (Post 1189512)
:hmmm: So if I'm a team mate and I see my quarterback and implied team leader (because it comes with that position), going to sausage parties, hanging out in clubs and making it rain, I would be anxious to play for the guy? I think not.

Remember Willie "Steamin'" Beaman after acting a fool?

Cap Rooney: "They won't play for him Tony"

TB, are you honestly using a fictional character to make a point here? Lol!

VY is not the leader of their team. He's their back up QB, and if it were you, you'd probably be right there with him partying as well. :toast2:

A guy going to a club and having a few drinks doesn't determine whether or not if he is capable of leading a football team. And hell this is the off season for god sakes, it's not like this is the night before a game.

bigbrewster2000 05-29-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189514)
See now you're buying into the media and the stuff they tout out there. There was nothing wrong with Romo going to Cabo either. Romo went out of town to relax for a few days when he had a full week off. Players do that all of the time, and the only reason why that got out is because he was with Jessica SImpson, and the media never reported how Witten was there the entire time as well. Just because the media creates this garbage that this guy can't do that and that guy can't do that just because he's a QB, but the WR's of the NFL are allowed to be these divas who are known for all sorts of other wild ventures is okay? That is silly.

I don't hold these QB's to any higher standards just because "the media" tries to get everyone else to. If they can do activities outside of football and still come to work and do what they're supposed to do, then I could care less what they're doing with their time as long as they're not breaking the law and doing things that will put them in jail.

Criticizing a guy for haing a few drinks and making it rain for a few seconds in the club sounds pretty Skip Balylessish to me. I guess next we'll be saying that QB's shouldn't be able to go to night clubs because they're held to a higher standard or maybe we should give them all curfews from now on.

There is the rub. He isnt doing what he is supposed to do. He isnt mentally prepared. He isnt spending the extra time on the practice field or in the film room trying to get better. And if he cant do those things(and he isnt) then he deserves the criticism. I dont understand why you are attempting to defend the guy. It's his turn to put up or shut up.

Texan JBZ 05-29-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189514)
See now you're buying into the media and the stuff they tout out there. There was nothing wrong with Romo going to Cabo either. Romo went out of town to relax for a few days when he had a full week off. Players do that all of the time, and the only reason why that got out is because he was with Jessica SImpson, and the media never reported how Witten was there the entire time as well. Just because the media creates this garbage that this guy can't do that and that guy can't do that just because he's a QB, but the WR's of the NFL are allowed to be these divas who are known for all sorts of other wild ventures is okay? That is silly.

I don't hold these QB's to any higher standards just because "the media" tries to get everyone else to. If they can do activities outside of football and still come to work and do what they're supposed to do, then I could care less what they're doing with their time as long as they're not breaking the law and doing things that will put them in jail.

Criticizing a guy for haing a few drinks and making it rain for a few seconds in the club sounds pretty Skip Balylessish to me. I guess next we'll be saying that QB's shouldn't be able to go to night clubs because they're held to a higher standard or maybe we should give them all curfews from now on.

No, I'm not buying into any media hype. NFL QB is by far the most difficult position in professional sports, and not just because of what happens on the field. Everybody-from coaches, to teammates, to fans, to media-holds QBs to a totally different standard. QBs can't be "one of the guys" all the time like say a DT can be. It takes wayyyy to much dedication to be a good one too. I can just about promise you this. While VY is in the club making it rain, Peyton is already studying game film of the Jaguars, Dolphins, and Cardinals. While VY is thinking about which party to go to, Brady is thinking about getting his timing back down with Moss and Welker.

And there absolutely was something wrong with Romo going to Cabo before a playoff game. That wasn't the time for him to relax! He has the "offseason" to relax. He has to understand the position he's in. You're QB of the Dallas Cowboys (as much as I hate them). The team hasn't won a playoff game in over a decade. You're supposed to be the new wonderkid, and the week before you're off relaxing in Cabo when you should be breaking down game film?!? And then to top it off, you come back and lose! You can't do that as a NFL QB. It's different Tex, trust me. Whether you want to hold them to a higher standard or not, it's there-always has been and always will be.

Texecutioner 05-29-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbrewster2000 (Post 1189522)
There is the rub. He isnt doing what he is supposed to do. He isnt mentally prepared. He isnt spending the extra time on the practice field or in the film room trying to get better. And if he cant do those things(and he isnt) then he deserves the criticism. I dont understand why you are attempting to defend the guy. It's his turn to put up or shut up.

How do you know all of this? Did you sit there with Fisher yesterday and have a one on one with him where he told you that VY wasn't doing any of this? I highly doubt that you did. You're basically just making things up here.

Show me an article within the last week that says VY isn't doing anything he's been asked to do by his coaches, and then I'll give you some credibility towards these claims, but from what I can tell you're simply trying to create a lot of smoke with some wet matches.

I'm defending the guy, because this is a non story and there is nothing currently out there suggesting that VY isn't doing what he's been asked to do by his coaches. From the last few articles I read, he was doing everything that was he was asked to do.

Texan JBZ 05-29-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189527)
How do you know all of this? Did you sit there with Fisher yesterday and have a one on one with him where he told you that VY wasn't doing any of this? I highly doubt that you did. You're basically just making things up here.

Show me an article within the last week that says VY isn't doing anything he's been asked to do by his coaches, and then I'll give you some credibility towards these claims, but from what I can tell you're simply trying to create a lot of smoke with some wet matches.

I'm defending the guy, because this is a non story and there is nothing currently out there suggesting that VY isn't doing what he's been asked to do by his coaches. From the last few articles I read, he was doing everything that was he was asked to do.

I think you're missing the overriding point of all this. VY can go out and do whatever he wants to do. He has the money and the time, so it's his God-given right to use both how he sees fit. But should he do knowing the current position he is in with the organization and fans of the Titans? The answer to that is no.

The problem is that this is another story that shows that the guy is not maturing. Why bring more negative attention to yourself if you're VY? That's why I believe that Fisher has lost all confidence in Vince. A quality coach like Fisher who's been around the game a long time knows when certain guys just don't get it.

Texan_Bill 05-29-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189520)
TB, are you honestly using a fictional character to make a point here? Lol!

VY is not the leader of their team. He's their back up QB, and if it were you, you'd probably be right there with him partying as well. :toast2:

A guy going to a club and having a few drinks doesn't determine whether or not if he is capable of leading a football team. And hell this is the off season for god sakes, it's not like this is the night before a game.

I should have went this route:
Julius [to Bertier]: "Attitude reflects leadership, captain."

Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with having a few drinks, otherwise I would never be right.

Problem with Young is that he's had a few bouts with immaturity. "Making it rain" feeds directly into the perception of Vincent's immaturity. Whether we want to admit it or not, perception is reality. Thus the stint on the bench.

Immature people do not lead football teams.

HOU-TEX 05-29-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 1189527)
How do you know all of this? Did you sit there with Fisher yesterday and have a one on one with him where he told you that VY wasn't doing any of this? I highly doubt that you did. You're basically just making things up here.

Show me an article within the last week that says VY isn't doing anything he's been asked to do by his coaches, and then I'll give you some credibility towards these claims, but from what I can tell you're simply trying to create a lot of smoke with some wet matches.

I'm defending the guy, because this is a non story and there is nothing currently out there suggesting that VY isn't doing what he's been asked to do by his coaches. From the last few articles I read, he was doing everything that was he was asked to do.

Everything you've said to defend him will never excuse the fact that he's a dumbass.

Just sayin :cool:


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