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HouSportsWriter 02-19-2009 07:40 AM

nfl mock draft 1.0 off nfl.com
 
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=...s&confirm=true



texans pick....is,,,, Aaron Maybin
DE/LB, Penn State



woot!


tell me what do you think of him good? bad? or.... not worth it ?

i hope hes good =p if we get him

El Tejano 02-19-2009 07:56 AM

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I say good. Not necessarily the name I want but is a good player at a position of need for us.

HouSportsWriter 02-19-2009 08:02 AM

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kk thanks for the post =]:kingkong::splits:

BigBull17 02-19-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by El Tejano (Post 1121640)
I say good. Not necessarily the name I want but is a good player at a position of need for us.

I also saw some of his hi lights of his last night, and he is VERY quick off the ball. Thats what we need. He isnt to great against the run, so bigger DE may be needed on 1st and 2nd down, but thats not the end of the world. Maybe once Maybin gets adjusted to the pros, he could be a 2 down line backer and a 3rd down DE. Could work.

nero THE zero 02-19-2009 09:35 AM

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Meh.

Lots of guys I'd rather have; Moreno, Laurinaitis, Jerry, Oher, Maclin, Johnson.

I'd hate to spend our first rounder on a situational player. I think I'd rather trade back even if I didn't get full value for the trade. This first round is looking very bland.

Errant Hothy 02-19-2009 09:38 AM

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My biggest concern with Maybin is that he is light. Don't be surprised if he weights in aroung 240 at the Combine.

If he runs well, agilioty more then 40 time, he could make a really interesting WLB prospect...maybe.

He also reminds me of Manny Lawson, the diffrence is that Lawson's stats were inflated due to playing next to Mario.

I'm not convinced I want him on my team, as somebody said somewhere else "He looks like a skiner Vernon Gholston". That's not a compliment.

recent photo:
http://www.allfootball247.com/wp-con...ron-maybin.jpg

BigBull17 02-19-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 1121708)
Meh.

Lots of guys I'd rather have; Moreno, Laurinaitis, Jerry, Oher, Maclin, Johnson.

I'd hate to spend our first rounder on a situational player. I think I'd rather trade back even if I didn't get full value for the trade. This first round is looking very bland.

Cause Moreno would'nt be situational? Or Maclin? Oher reshuffles our whole oline. Johnson is a 2nd round prospect, thats almost just like Maybin, but lazy. I in no way want Jerry, since I've seen alot of sccouting sites compare him to Travis Johnson. No.

nero THE zero 02-19-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBull17 (Post 1121716)
Cause Moreno would'nt be situational? Or Maclin? Oher reshuffles our whole oline. Johnson is a 2nd round prospect, thats almost just like Maybin, but lazy. I in no way want Jerry, since I've seen alot of sccouting sites compare him to Travis Johnson. No.

Moreno is capable of playing all 3 downs. So is Maclin. So is Oher.

Johnson's a "second round prospect" in February. He's also 25lbs heavier than Maybin and much more capable against the run. There's a good chance he is a mid-late first rounder come April.

My worry is that Maybin is too light to play the run.

It would be ideal to trade back in the first. Like I said, I'd even take lesser value to do it. But, I just can't see how it is justifiable to take a "specialist" at 15.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba....html#comments
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I'm finally starting to hear a buzz about some of the higher rated DEs in this year's draft and the buzz has been mixed at best.

Penn State DE Aaron Maybin is the one player who draws the most mixed reviews. One evaluator said that after grading Maybin on tape, it would be impossible to give him a draft grade any higher than the fourth round if you base it purely on the film. Then again, there is another team praying that Maybin gets to them in the first round. I guess they are depending more on how he projects than his 2008 body of work.

beerlover 02-19-2009 11:16 AM

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great potential in a 3-4 @ OLB. I'd like a more proven player or at least one who fits our system better. :cool:

BigBull17 02-19-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 1121735)
Moreno is capable of playing all 3 downs. So is Maclin. So is Oher.

Johnson's a "second round prospect" in February. He's also 25lbs heavier than Maybin and much more capable against the run. There's a good chance he is a mid-late first rounder come April.

My worry is that Maybin is too light to play the run.

It would be ideal to trade back in the first. Like I said, I'd even take lesser value to do it. But, I just can't see how it is justifiable to take a "specialist" at 15.
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba....html#comments

I also want a trade down, but you have to have a partner. Moreno isnt a 3 down running back for us because we have a damn near Pro Bowl running back. He would be a 1st round pick who would run the ball 6 times a game. Thats more of a specialist than Maybin. Johnson has 25 lbs, true, but he is taller. Alot taller. He has a lean frame.

Ole Miss Texan 02-19-2009 11:44 AM

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That is not fair one bit that the Lions get Matthew Stafford AND Michael Oher AND have the 33rd pick!

The closer we get to the draft, the more and more in favor I am of trading down. It seems that for our Needs, the best place to be is in the 20's/bottom of the 1st or top of the 2nd round. You name the position: DE, LB, CB, S, etc.

Back to the pick at 15 though. I like Maybin although I don't know much about him. I pray that any guy we take at this spot would be able to play 4-3 DE. It's just pretty risky pickin'

I'd love to pick up Michael Oher even if it's plugging him in at guard. The guy is just so versatile and has so much upside, it's incredible. If Brown or Winston get injured, he could move over to either LT or RT in a pinch... in a heartbeat. Pitts has been a lifelong Texan and hopefully stays healthy. Oher could man the RG position from day 1 and we'd have a very capable backup (Brisiel). Oher would be my pick if he's available. We'd get a quality starter on the OL with huge upside, it would help in the redzone/goal line, and if Brown, Pitts, Brisiel or Winston... if just one of them goes down for any length of time right now we're screwed. Oher would be a huge insurance policy and at #15, it's not too early to pick a Guard.

TimeKiller 02-19-2009 12:16 PM

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The only way I'm okay with drafting Maybin @15 or anywhere is because Kubiak/Bush thinks he is an OLB first, pass rusher 2nd.

Oher would be a better pick in this draft.

mussop 02-20-2009 09:00 AM

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I would hope we went Oher in that situation.

nunusguy 02-20-2009 09:35 AM

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If you caught 1560s "Draft-Show" yesterday with LZ & John Harris you heard their guest, "NFL Draft Scouts" Rob Rang, call Maybin a "tight-skinned" player which seemed to imply the Penn State DE would have more difficuty adding lbs than other players. But I dunno, what exactly does "tight skinned" mean in this context ?

bah007 02-20-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 1122706)
If you caught 1560s "Draft-Show" yesterday with LZ & John Harris you heard their guest, "NFL Draft Scouts" Rob Rang, call Maybin a "tight-skinned" player which seemed to imply the Penn State DE would have more difficuty adding lbs than other players. But I dunno, what exactly does "tight skinned" mean in this context ?

If you have seen a picture of Maybin then you know what he is talking about.

To me, it looks like Maybin is pretty maxed out.

Ole Miss Texan 02-20-2009 12:05 PM

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His upperbody looks fine. What I think he needs to do is add more "weight" in his lower body. Work on his lower body strength and power. He'll HAVE to do that if he's to be used as a 4-3 end.

The Pencil Neck 02-20-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 1122706)
If you caught 1560s "Draft-Show" yesterday with LZ & John Harris you heard their guest, "NFL Draft Scouts" Rob Rang, call Maybin a "tight-skinned" player which seemed to imply the Penn State DE would have more difficuty adding lbs than other players. But I dunno, what exactly does "tight skinned" mean in this context ?

I'd imagine they just mean he's ripped, a very low bodyfat %.

If you're ripped, you can gain weight. :)

TheRealJoker 02-20-2009 03:31 PM

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Coach Kollar specializes in sub 250 DEs with high motors. He should have no problem coaching up Maybin to be an Aaron Schobel clone.

Myself, i'm hoping Kruger falls to our pick in the 2nd and we use the 1st on a different position but I wouldn't mind Maybin one bit. He'd give our DL an elite first step which would be very nice to see against Peyton Manning 2x a year.

threetoedpete 02-21-2009 11:46 AM

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That's what I'm thinking also Joker. My biggest Question about the guy is can he move to the will...eventually. You have to cover in the forty three. If he can't flip his hips turn and run then it is a very risky pick. If he can it's just a tempest in a tea pot. We'll find out when he works out. I agree it's doubtful his body will carry any more weight. McClain is pretty certain we will not take the guy. That's what he's posting in his chats any way. I find it curious that Freeny has been Kicking our butts for several seasons and we cut trails with a Freeny clone in terms of his feet and running the arc...and he's not good enough for the Texan's. Go figure?

mussop 02-21-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by threetoedpete (Post 1123612)
That's what I'm thinking also Joker. My biggest Question about the guy is can he move to the will...eventually. You have to cover in the forty three. If he can't flip his hips turn and run then it is a very risky pick. If he can it's just a tempest in a tea pot. We'll find out when he works out. I agree it's doubtful his body will carry any more weight. McClain is pretty certain we will not take the guy. That's what he's posting in his chats any way. I find it curious that Freeny has been Kicking our butts for several seasons and we cut trails with a Freeny clone in terms of his feet and running the arc...and he's not good enough for the Texan's. Go figure?


What makes any of you think Kubiack is okay with a small DE opposite Mario? Look at our current roster, all the DE's are in the Weaver mold. I think it is just a fan fantasy for us to have a Freeney type player on our team because of what he has done to us in the past. I just dont see us going with a smaller DE who isnt really good in run support early in the draft. I think some of you guys are forgetting how bad we are at stopping the run.


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