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Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 02:05 PM

Kaiser Toro's 1st Mock
 
Just to get my work in progress, mock draft up.

1st Brian Orakpo DE - also on my radar here are Mays S and Maualuga LB

2nd Clay Matthews LB - maybe a reach here, but I want another gamer on the defensive side of the ball - also on my radar are Chase Coffman TE and Patrick Chung S.

3rd - Myron Rolle SS - I am interested to see where he goes, based on how he orchestrates his Rhodes Scholar and pending declaration for the draft. We would have to wait for his services, but it would be worth it. Also on my radar are Charles Scott RB and Domonique Johnson CB

4th - Alex Boone OL - Big, not bad feet, potential swing tackle. Also on my radar are on Ron Brace DT and AQ Shipley C.

5th - Rashad Jennings RB - I have a feeling he performs very well in the Senior Bowl/Combine and moves up considerably. Also considering Henry Melton DE and Ramses Barden WR

6th - Henry Melton DE - I have a feeling that he will be a terrific pass rushing specialist with the right Dline coach.

7th - Sammie Lee Hill DT - Space eating project from small school. Quan Cosby will be on my radar here as well.

The1ApplePie 01-04-2009 02:17 PM

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I would love Orakpo but I doubt he will be there at 15. He is going to put up monster combine numbers.

Glad someone else is high on Clay Mathews

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The1ApplePie (Post 1091029)
I would love Orakpo but I doubt he will be there at 15. He is going to put up monster combine numbers.

Glad someone else is high on Clay Mathews

I doubt it as well, but fingers crossed.

nunusguy 01-04-2009 02:28 PM

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So it's not a mock draft but a wish list ?

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 1091041)
So it's not a mock draft but a wish list ?

At this point everything is a mock/wish list given that the season is not over, declarations have not been made and staffs on the pro side have not been finalized. Until then, this is, as stated, a work in progress.

thunderkyss 01-04-2009 02:32 PM

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He never said anything about taking him at 15th. for all we know, we traded Sage, Moats, and Myers to move up to 4

Silver Oak 01-04-2009 02:43 PM

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2-3 of your 7 are from UT. Kinda leaning heavily on what you saw this season aren't you?

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Oak (Post 1091050)
2-3 of your 7 are from UT. Kinda leaning heavily on what you saw this season aren't you?

Hardly, who does not have Orakpo as one of the top lineman? Melton is a project that converted from RB to DE, not a heavy investment in the 6th round. Cosby, I believe will be a terrific pro regardless where he goes. For us, he could take over duties for Jacoby Jones on PR and potentially KR for Davis. Cosby catches everything and knows the life of a professional. Most likely an undrafted FA, but I would spend a 7 on him.

Moreover, 3 of my top 4 are from USC. I got small school players in there, 2 ACC players, Big Ten players. Holy mother of God you are right, I am leaning heavily on what I saw this season.

nunusguy 01-04-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 1091046)
At this point everything is a mock/wish list given that the season is not over, declarations have not been made and staffs on the pro side have not been finalized. Until then, this is, as stated, a work in progress.

Orakpo is a senior so he doesn't have to declare for anything since his college eligibility is exausted and he'll be in the NFL in 2009. In other words he's fair game.
I would also wish to have him on our team, but unless we trade up it ain't gonna happen.

TexansSeminole 01-04-2009 03:01 PM

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I really don't think Myron Rolle will ever play in the NFL.

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 1091063)
Orakpo is a senior so he doesn't have to declare for anything since his college eligibility is exausted and he'll be in the NFL in 2009. In other words he's fair game.
I would also wish to have him on our team, but unless we trade up it ain't gonna happen.

Orakpo is a senior? Appreciate the heads up.

Not sure if you read in a left to right direction or if you are stuck on Orakpo and wishing wells, but there were two other players mentioned as being on the radar should we not trade up for Orakpo, something happens to him before draft day or anyting else that could happen.

beerlover 01-04-2009 03:07 PM

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4) Kaiser Toro selects - Charles Scott, LSU 5-11 232 3rd. rd.

then in your 1st Mock take
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5th - Rashad Jennings RB - I have a feeling he performs very well in the Senior Bowl/Combine and moves up considerably.
which is it? by the way

8) Mari-OWNED! selects - Rashad Jennings, Liberty 6-1 232 4th. rd..

& others feel he might not even last til the 4th?

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TexansSeminole (Post 1091065)
I really don't think Myron Rolle will ever play in the NFL.

He has pretty much stated he wanted to in the interviews I have seen on TV and in print. Moreover, there is precedent in Rhodes Scholars playing professional sports.

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 1091070)
4) Kaiser Toro selects - Charles Scott, LSU 5-11 232 3rd. rd.

then in your 1st Mock take

which is it?

by the way 8) Mari-OWNED! selects - Rashad Jennings, Liberty 6-1 232 4th. rd..

& others feel he might not even last til the 4th?

Two different threads. Please let me call your attention to the following:

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3rd - Myron Rolle SS - I am interested to see where he goes, based on how he orchestrates his Rhodes Scholar and pending declaration for the draft. We would have to wait for his services, but it would be worth it. Also on my radar are Charles Scott RB and Domonique Johnson CB

beerlover 01-04-2009 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 1091073)
Two different threads. Please let me call your attention to the following:

I can easily change your pick in the other thread if that is really what you want? just trying to get some clarification :)

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 1091081)
I can easily change your pick in the other thread if that is really what you want? just trying to get some clarification :)

Scott and other underclassmen still need to declare, which would have an effect on RB's such as Jennings (not to mention how he performs in the off season). Rolle is a wild card, and may be gone. I am staying pat where I am at this moment.

Silver Oak 01-04-2009 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 1091056)
Hardly, who does not have Orakpo as one of the top lineman? Melton is a project that converted from RB to DE, not a heavy investment in the 6th round. Cosby, I believe will be a terrific pro regardless where he goes. For us, he could take over duties for Jacoby Jones on PR and potentially KR for Davis. Cosby catches everything and knows the life of a professional. Most likely an undrafted FA, but I would spend a 7 on him.

Moreover, 3 of my top 4 are from USC. I got small school players in there, 2 ACC players, Big Ten players. Holy mother of God you are right, I am leaning heavily on what I saw this season.


pardon me. didn't mean to rub you the wrong way with my pointing out your touting of players from a school you are a fan of. please...carry on with your fine mock sir.

Kaiser Toro 01-04-2009 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Oak (Post 1091124)
pardon me. didn't mean to rub you the wrong way with my pointing out your touting of players from a school you are a fan of. please...carry on with your fine mock sir.

I am a fan of UT, but I would find it hard to say I pimp UT players in person or on this board in the past or present. Please feel free to show me otherwise.

Honoring Earl 34 01-04-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Kaiser Toro's 1st Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 1091017)
Just to get my work in progress, mock draft up.

1st Brian Orakpo DE - also on my radar here are Mays S and Maualuga LB

2nd Clay Matthews LB - maybe a reach here, but I want another gamer on the defensive side of the ball - also on my radar are Chase Coffman TE and Patrick Chung S.

3rd - Myron Rolle SS - I am interested to see where he goes, based on how he orchestrates his Rhodes Scholar and pending declaration for the draft. We would have to wait for his services, but it would be worth it. Also on my radar are Charles Scott RB and Domonique Johnson CB

4th - Alex Boone OL - Big, not bad feet, potential swing tackle. Also on my radar are on Ron Brace DT and AQ Shipley C.

5th - Rashad Jennings RB - I have a feeling he performs very well in the Senior Bowl/Combine and moves up considerably. Also considering Henry Melton DE and Ramses Barden WR

6th - Henry Melton DE - I have a feeling that he will be a terrific pass rushing specialist with the right Dline coach.

7th - Sammie Lee Hill DT - Space eating project from small school. Quan Cosby will be on my radar here as well.

I don't like it because Clay Matthews has long hair .... JK . It would get Bruce rooting for the Texans .

Blake 01-04-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Kaiser Toro's 1st Mock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 1091017)
Just to get my work in progress, mock draft up.

1st Brian Orakpo DE - also on my radar here are Mays S and Maualuga LB

2nd Clay Matthews LB - maybe a reach here, but I want another gamer on the defensive side of the ball - also on my radar are Chase Coffman TE and Patrick Chung S.

3rd - Myron Rolle SS - I am interested to see where he goes, based on how he orchestrates his Rhodes Scholar and pending declaration for the draft. We would have to wait for his services, but it would be worth it. Also on my radar are Charles Scott RB and Domonique Johnson CB

4th - Alex Boone OL - Big, not bad feet, potential swing tackle. Also on my radar are on Ron Brace DT and AQ Shipley C.

5th - Rashad Jennings RB - I have a feeling he performs very well in the Senior Bowl/Combine and moves up considerably. Also considering Henry Melton DE and Ramses Barden WR

6th - Henry Melton DE - I have a feeling that he will be a terrific pass rushing specialist with the right Dline coach.

7th - Sammie Lee Hill DT - Space eating project from small school. Quan Cosby will be on my radar here as well.

I wouldnt care about 2-7 if we got Orakpo in the first.

Rolle would be a great pick but we will have to see if he even wants to play football.

Rashad Jennings would be a great start to our own version of earth wind and fire but you might have to take him with your 3rd round pick like you are thinking might happen.

Melton would be fun to see as a Texan. We could also throw him in as a power FullBack/pass catcher on the goal line. :)

Good Stuff.


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