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Blake 12-29-2008 09:25 AM

Super Mario's December Texans Mock
 
No trades, just straight picks at the 15th spot in each round. I am assuming we sign Nnamdi Asomugha and am using the GBND top 100 to cherry pick the top 3 rounds. After that I just pick whomever.

Round1: Taylor Mays, FS, USC. With freakish size and speed he is a prime candidate to get our secondary up to par.

Round2: Everette Bown, DE, Florida State. I know, I know, you think he will be gone first round. But at this point GBND thinks he is a 2nd rounder. But what a steal if he fell here.

Round3: Max Unger, OC, Oregon. At 6'5" and 300 LBS he has the size to hold up the point of attack, and is not so heavy that he cannot get to the 2nd level.

Round4: Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty. The Giants took a chance on Brandon Jacobs and it worked out pretty well.

Round5: Roy Miller, DT, Texas. Solid player who dominated the LOS this year. A big reason that Texas' D was still great when Orakpo went out. Should eventually be a 3 round pick.

Round6: Cedrick Dockery, OG, Texas. Derrick is a monster and his brother is pretty good too.

Round7: John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama. Shorter than you would like, but a 3 year starter in the SEC. Just a backup for life, but thats normally what you get in round 5-7, unless you strike gold.

Yes, I am a longhorn fan, and feel more comfortable picking a couple players I know about. Let me know what you think.

Also, yes, players will rise and fall in the draft, but right now this is where I see them.

Ole Miss Texan 12-29-2008 09:30 AM

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I'd be thrilled with an offseason like that. BUT... highly doubtful we get Asomugha, Mays is still a possibility in the 1st but New Orleans and Denver pick in front of us, I highly doubt Brown is at our spot in the 2nd round (don't care what GBN says) plus he's more of a 3-4 OLB. Rest of the draft with Jennings, Unger, etc. I would be pleased with.

Plus if you go by exactly where GBN has their players ranked (not projected), you have to account for the juniors that won't declare (like Tebow?) so Brown wouldn't be available on that basis. :)

nunusguy 12-29-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan (Post 1086688)
I highly doubt Brown is at our spot in the 2nd round (don't care what GBN says) plus he's more of a 3-4 OLB.

I dunno, but Mathis @ Indy plays in the 4-3 and he's < 250 & Freeney isn't that much bigger.
We all know that because of Marios size he's really a strong-side guy which should give us the flexibility (and the luxury) to use a smaller guy in the 250-260 range at weakside DE ?

Ole Miss Texan 12-29-2008 09:59 AM

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I'd be hesitant taking a failry one-deminsional guy early in the draft... the one big exception is Pass Rusher and that's what this guy is. He's not that stout against the run and I think we'd see MJD/Taylor, CJ/White and Addai running all over us to that side. With all that said, he might be the best pass rusher in the draft and that's something we could really really use. :)

TimeKiller 12-29-2008 11:32 AM

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That's a cool draft but I think you have to get an outside linebacker at some point.

Blake 12-29-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeKiller (Post 1086831)
That's a cool draft but I think you have to get an outside linebacker at some point.

Good point. Are you wanting to replace a starter, or just for depth?

Ole Miss Texan 12-29-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1086832)
Good point. Are you wanting to replace a starter, or just for depth?

Man, I really wish we could get a NT like Raji AND a pass rusher like Brown. (shoot and a S like Mays... LOL).

I'm worried about Diles injury. I love Adibi and Demeco together but I don't know how Diles is going to come back to full strength so soon. I like having Bentley and Diles as backups that could both come in at MLB or SLB in a pinch. I'd like to see a starting LB over Diles even though he's played well this year.

It's hard to peg what would be the wisest move for us to make: NT/DE/OLB/S etc. I think we'll have some options at #15 if we stay there. Probably take the highest rated player we have of these unless a superstar falls to us.

One thing about picking up a LB too early though, is on passing downs he may leave the field so an extra safety or corner could come in. That would mean either Adibi or the new LB wouldn't be out there (whichever is worse in pass coverage). Maybe an OLB like Curry would force Adibi out in this situation.

nunusguy 12-29-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan (Post 1086852)
Man, I really wish we could get a NT like Raji AND a pass rusher like Brown. (shoot and a S like Mays... LOL).

I dunno but I thought you were "Ole Miss", like in Miss U ? If so why didn't you plug Peria Jerry who's the best looking DT I've seen this year ? Or is it that he's too much of a one-gapper and not a NT-type ?

Goldensilence 12-29-2008 12:23 PM

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I don't see us picking up Mays unless a new DC comes in. I like Brown but not sure he'll be there in the second...would be awesome though. I do like Unger and it would be a great upgrade for the interior of the OL. Rest of the draft looks good. John Parker Wilson might well be a Kubiak kind of player at QB. Not spectacular but good leadership skills and tested in the SEC.

Blake 12-29-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldensilence (Post 1086888)
I don't see us picking up Mays unless a new DC comes in.

Well lets hope both come true!

Nawzer 12-29-2008 02:05 PM

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I'm predicting a trade down and getting more picks.

Honoring Earl 34 12-29-2008 02:18 PM

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It's a pretty optimistic draft which means being critical is like complaining that the Victoria's Secrets models can't cook .

Kaiser Toro 12-29-2008 02:31 PM

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I like Miller as a late pick and would not mind late round flyers on Melton or Cosby, as well from UT. Cosby will make a terrific pro WR for about 8-10 years, much like Derrick Mason in my opinion.

Ole Miss Texan 12-29-2008 02:44 PM

Re: Super Mario's December Texans Mock
 
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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 1086877)
I dunno but I thought you were "Ole Miss", like in Miss U ? If so why didn't you plug Peria Jerry who's the best looking DT I've seen this year ? Or is it that he's too much of a one-gapper and not a NT-type ?

Same here, he looks outstanding. At this point in time he's already better than TJ and Amobi but Amobi has more upside, i think. My thoughts are that we need a big NT to start next to Amobi and have TJ, while he's still here, as the back up. Jerry is too similar to Amobi's style of play.

painekiller 12-29-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan (Post 1087122)
Same here, he looks outstanding. At this point in time he's already better than TJ and Amobi but Amobi has more upside, i think. My thoughts are that we need a big NT to start next to Amobi and have TJ, while he's still here, as the back up. Jerry is too similar to Amobi's style of play.

I agree with you on this. Why is so hard for people to get that the DTs are no longer equal, one is called the NT and one is called the Under Tackle or DT. They play different techniques and call for different skills.

LonerATO 12-29-2008 05:11 PM

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If the Texans are looking to draft a QB then I would hope we get Rhett Bomar

Goatcheese 12-29-2008 07:40 PM

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Your first 3 picks are all possible first rounders.

I wouldn't mind Mays in the first. Some people knock him for lack of production, but last time I checked Asomugha isn't tops in the league in INTs.

The1ApplePie 12-29-2008 10:01 PM

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As an offensive guy I don't know if I could pass up having Jeremy Macllin next to AJ for years to come.

Hopefully Andre Smith will slide down after his suspension and cause so good guys to fall with him

YoungTexanFan 12-29-2008 10:28 PM

Re: Super Mario's December Texans Mock
 
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Originally Posted by Super Mario (Post 1086682)

Round1: Taylor Mays, FS, USC.

Round2: Everette Bown, DE, Florida State.

Round3: Max Unger, OC, Oregon.

Round4: Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty.

Round5: Roy Miller, DT, Texas.

Round6: Cedrick Dockery, OG, Texas.

Round7: John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama.

I don't think this is a possible draft, and here is why with a few quick notes. First, you don't get to cherry pick. That is done the day after. Teams can't cherry pick. Mays would be a good pick. Brown would be a good pick at that range, though he will be a 3-4 OLB. Brown is, by all indications, going to go higher than that. Pretty much everyone else you have listed will go a round or so earlier than you have down. Also, Wilson will go higher than Round 7. He's a proven SEC QB from a successful program with a great coach.

I guess it just irks me that you call this a Texans mock. Call it a wish list, or a dream draft, or a cherry pickers fantasy. It kind of demeans what some of us actually try to do every year. It demeans what I hope to do for a living.

YoungTexanFan 12-29-2008 10:32 PM

Re: Super Mario's December Texans Mock
 
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Originally Posted by The1ApplePie (Post 1087545)
As an offensive guy I don't know if I could pass up having Jeremy Macllin next to AJ for years to come.

Hopefully Andre Smith will slide down after his suspension and cause so good guys to fall with him

Frail. Injured. Poor routes. Average hands. Mizzou education (big knock in my books). Short. At best he's Devin Hester as a WR, and I mean that he will take 4 years or so to develop as a #2 WR. Until then, you have a first round return man. Think of it like Reggie Bush, just not anywhere near as good of a WR. It's funny, Maclin might be a better RB and Bush is a better WR. Why would you spend a first round pick on a slightly more talented/developed Jacoby Jones. Why would you spend first round money on another WR. That type of money means he has to see the field.


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