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Human Highlight Reel 12-31-2004 05:05 PM

You Have Full Control Over The Texan's Offseason.... What Do You Do???
First order of business is that I talk Palmer into a little bit more of a aggressive scheme instead of 70% Run and 30% Pass, maybe 60% run and 40% pass. And take a couple more shots down field.

Secondly I'd talk to David Carr about his #1 target Andre Johnson. Johnson has awesome speed, great size, good jumping ability and good hands.. if you ever feel like you are stuck and there is nothing is to do and you can't run just throw it up there for Johnson to get it. With Johnson's first trip to the pro bowl under his belt he is now going to be stepping up his game for the next year.

Next I would trade Joppru and Wells and the extra 3rd round pick for a high second or low first. Cause we can use a 5th round pick for a HB that does what Wells does. (Give Davis a rest)

I would not sign Seth Payne back, as much as I hate to say it because I like Payne as a person and he has been great for us, but that's money we could be using on upgrading our O or D line.

After that, it's a lot of Lineman becoming free agents this off season upgrade the line in free agency with proven line, preferable lineman that have been in a run heavy or zone blocking scheme (i.e Steelers, Broncos). Here I would rather sign a free agent lineman because of experience and intelligence.

Then with the 1st round pick, get themselves a ball hawk at Safety, (you see what Sean Taylor and Ed Reed have done for their teams in terms of game breakers) So with a pick somewhere in the middle of the round, Thomas Davis or Shazzar of Michigan should be there if not I like that guy from USC Darnell Bing.

Next with a high second round pick, I'd be looking for a Big Strong DT here there aren't that many so hopefully either Wright or Hawthrone are left in the early second. I would have jumped for a Good ILB to groom next to Sharper and give him and Foreman (who is not 100%) a little time to rest up on the sidleine.

With another second round pick in our back pocket we should be looking at a ILB, there a number of good linebackers in this draft, Johnson and Brooks no doubt will be gone, Maybe Kevin Burnett or Lance Mitchell. For the sake of this thread I'll just say Kevin Burnett. With Wong, Burnett, Sharper and Babin we could be looking at something special there. and we can't forget about Atwann Peek he's always a wildcard when he's in there.

third round I'd take a look at a CB, now all of the TOP of the line Cornerbacks will probably be gone but we need to start looking at people to replace Glenn cause he's not getting any younger. Why a Third Rounder well you don't wanna spend a high pick and have him sitting behind Robinson, Glenn and Faggins. But with this third round pick, maybe him and Faggins could be battling it out for that number 2 spot when Glenn retires.

fourth round I'm taking a O-Lineman, why so late in the draft, well considering the fact I already upgraded from Free Agency I wouldn't need to spend a high pick here. Just getting lineman to add more depth, to by now, a deep part of the offense.

Fifth Round I take a Pass Recieving TE, someone that can find those open spots in the zone, I"m waiting till the fifth round because Bruener is still the number 1 right now so there is no rush there at that position. But what if we could run a TE like a Alge Crumpler or Antonio Gates, well with a 5th pick it would hurt to try to snag someone that could help open up the new 60/40 offense that I talke to Palmer about earlier.

sixth and seventh round I just add depth where I need it.

Please post your full control offseason moves. Who knows maybe Casserly or Capers might see it.. :coolb:

YoungTexanFan 12-31-2004 10:04 PM

First, you dont need to talk to anyone. you would be laughed at until you left, and then im sure they would call you and tell you to sign who you wanted???... :hmmm: :thud:
Second, Johnson cant consistently beat 2 or 3 guys. Bradford is not our answer and other people w/sense on this board have said that...gaffeny is a slot reciever. also Carr cant throw to someone if he is running or eating grass.
Next...you wouldnt get what you think you would for those guys. jourppe is injured goods and unproven in EVERY aspect. Wells has shown glimpses but nothing close to being able to be a down back.
Payne will be back because no one can take his spot yet, look for that to be addressed first day and/or free agency.
The linemen i would look at if you want a strong, young line would be jones from seatle.
I agree on you with us needing a safty to replace colemen. Earl will be the league average and that is good for a year or two. We have bigger issues than colemen this year. i would give him more time for adjustment. Also there are no playmaking safties in this years draft, sean taylor was rare...thats why he was top 5.
1st round: Any line, get the best guy available. I would avoid barron because i think he will be a bust. i would sign as many free agents as possible, maybe take two or three linemen in the draft.
2nd.: look linemen again unless a 1st round linebacker slips. it all starts in the trenches.
3rd.: Now look for lb, if we took one before look for maybe a te, a fifth round is too late...we have billy miller...
3rd.: look secondary, maybe a project cb like gamble last year. POSSIBLY look for clarrett, i dont like him as a person and i dont know if the Texans would consider him, i think with a little diciplen from capers he could show his natural talent.
4th.: I look speed reciever, im thinking someone possibly like an antonio perkins, he can double as a pr, kr. and just divert some attention away from johnson.
5th.: we should take a defensive player who is VERY raw but seems to have natural instincts, ie peek w/out so much attitude.
6th.: get the best kicker available. kris brown is going back to his pitsburg days already, its a shame too.
7th.: O line, you see more 7th round o line men that anything.

jacquescas 01-01-2005 10:52 PM


I look to seattle first.... 1 of the trio of LT Walter Jones, QB Matt Hassellbeck and HB Shaun Alexander.... With only the franchise and transition tag, 1 of these 3 players will be available.

If its Hassellbeck we are out of luck. But chances are they protect their QB with only an aging Dilfer behind him.

If its Jones, we need to pursue him. Young, extremely talented, pro-bowl left tackle.

If its Alexander, as much as i like Davis, he isn't on that level. Alexander can be signed and Davis can be traded for a second round pick or so. The second round pick should be an offensive Tackle

Free agency i would look to improve the defensive line, maybe find a true NT that can come in and play immediately.


1st round i think we need a tight end. I know people dont want to spend another high pick on a TE, but the fact is we are platooning the position and someone with some size that can catch and block.

Second round, i'd look for the saftey everyone feels we need.

3rd round.... linebacker, defensive line, or interior offensive line... we have 2 picks in the round so the 2 highest rated from those at the pick.

4th round whomever didn't get picked from 3rd round.

5th-7th rounds BPA..... better to get the best players available, than trying to fill a hole with a lesser talent.

texansalltheway 01-04-2005 03:08 AM


1. Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virgina
2. Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
3. Antonio Perkins, CB, Oklahoma
3. Donovan Raiola, C, Wisconsin
4. Mike Goolsby, LB, Notre Dame
5. Jonathan Babineaux, DE, Iowa
6. Ben Emanuel, S, U.C.L.A.
7. Adell Duckett, OLB, Texas Tech


James Thrash WR
Anthony Becht TE
Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala RB
Jarrod Cooper DB
Jonas Jennings LT


Tony Banks
Bryan Pittman
Milford Brown
Marcus Spears
Moran Norris
Junior Ioane
Seth Payne
Troy Evans
Kenny Wright
Demarcus Faggins

Next Year's Team

WR Andre Johnson/Derrick Armstrong/Kendrick Starling
WR James Thrash/Jabar Gaffney/Sloan Thomas
LT Jonas Jennings/Seth Wand /Marcus Spears
LG Chester Pitts/Brown Milford
C Steve McKinney/Donovan Raiola/Todd Washington
RG ZachWiegert/Fred Weary
RT Todd Wade/Garrick Jones
TE Anthony Becht/Mark Bruener/Billy Miller/Bennie Joppru
QB David Carr/Tony Banks/Dave Ragone/BJ Symons
FB Moran Norris/Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala
RB Domanick Davis/TonyHollings/Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala

LDE Gary Walker/Jerry DeLoach/Jonathan Babineaux
NT Seth Payne/Haloti Ngata
RDE Robaire Smith/Junior Ioane
LOLB Jason Babin/Charlie Anderson/Adell Duckett
LILB Ahmad Brooks/Mike Goolsby/Shantee Orr
RILB Jamie Sharper/TroyEvans
ROLB Kailee Wong/Antwan Peek
LCB Aaron Glenn/Antonio Perkins/Demarcus Faggins
SS Glenn Earl/Eric Brown/Jarrod Cooper
FS Marcus Coleman/Jammal Lord/Ben Emanuel
RCB Dunta Robinson/Kenny Wright

P ChadStanley
PK Kris Brown
KR/PR Antonio Perkins
LS BryanPittman

Tailgate 01-04-2005 10:05 AM

Fix The Trenches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edo783 01-04-2005 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Tailgate
Fix The Trenches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What he said!

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