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Overalls 05-27-2008 07:06 PM

Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10843371

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Overrated: RB Ahman Green. There are some who think he's still an elite runner. I don't. So he gets the nod here on a tough team to find an overrated player.

Underrated: CB Fred Bennett. As a rookie, he showed the ability to develop into a nice cover corner. With Dunta Robinson out for a least half of the coming season as he recovers from an injury, Bennett will be the team's top corner.

Can't say I disagree with his thoughts on this about us, but I don't think the average Texans fan is rating AG very high right now anyway.

nunusguy 05-27-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
When the Saints used the second pick in the 2006 NFL Draft to take Bush, some speculated he could be a 2,000-yard rusher. They meant in a season. He's just over halfway to that number in two.
Bush, who has 1,146 rushing yards in two seasons, gets the nod this year as my most overrated NFL player. In 28 NFL games, Bush has one 100-yard rushing effort. His 3.7 career average per rush is not impressive at all. He does have 161 catches in two seasons, but the Saints expected a lot more with him running with the football when they selected him.
What's bigger: Bush as a disappointment or his girlfriend's (Kim Kardashian) ample behind?
We expected to see those electrifying, make-the-defensive-coordinators-sweat runs that he put on display at Southern California. Instead we have had a tentative, between-the-tackles runner who sure doesn't make us think of Gale Sayers, which the experts said he would.

kiwitexansfan 05-27-2008 08:33 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
I'd say that the picks for the Texans are about right.

I think Texans fans don't over rate Green but for the non-Texans fan, they hear Ahman Green they still think of the guy from Green Bay, which is nowhere near true..... as far as we know.

As for underrated I would be tempted to go with our O-Line, people still think it was the terrible unit that got Carr killed (or Carr made look bad depending on your angle). They are now a good pass protecting line worthy of some respect.

DiehardChris 05-27-2008 09:23 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
Two observations:

1. That writer went the safe route, with his overrated selections he mostly picked older players.

2. Did you see who his overrated Tennessee Titan was? It was Vince Young, to go along with his pick of Reggie Bush for the Saints. Heh.

TEXANS84 05-27-2008 09:58 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by DiehardChris (Post 926168)
Two observations:

2. Did you see who his overrated Tennessee Titan was? It was Vince Young, to go along with his pick of Reggie Bush for the Saints. Heh.

It's great seeing that up there. You just gotta love that.

Hooston Texan 05-27-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by DiehardChris (Post 926168)

2. Did you see who his overrated Tennessee Titan was? It was Vince Young, to go along with his pick of Reggie Bush for the Saints. Heh.

Even better, he implied in his lead-in that Young was the second-most overrated player in the entire league behind only Bush. And the cherry on top of all that was his blast about Cowboy Roy Williams being a perennial on his overrated list.

adam 05-27-2008 10:53 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan (Post 926102)
I'd say that the picks for the Texans are about right.

I think Texans fans don't over rate Green but for the non-Texans fan, they hear Ahman Green they still think of the guy from Green Bay, which is nowhere near true..... as far as we know.

As for underrated I would be tempted to go with our O-Line, people still think it was the terrible unit that got Carr killed (or Carr made look bad depending on your angle). They are now a good pass protecting line worthy of some respect.

I would agree with this. I would likely give most under-rated award to Mike Brisiel. He was arguably our best guard last season, who knew?

ObsiWan 05-28-2008 12:06 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
Overrated: RB Ahman Green. There are some who think he's still an elite runner. I don't. So he gets the nod here on a tough team to find an overrated player.

Somebody help me out; is this a slam meaning we have only a couple of players (A.J., DeMeco, Mario) on anyone's radar and the rest of the squad consists of "nobodys"? Or am I being paranoid again?
:thinking:

NBT 05-28-2008 12:44 PM

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Certainly not paranoid in my opinion. We still don't have the respect of most sports writers, but we are starting to get the attention of players and coaches. That is the important thing.

threetoedpete 05-28-2008 01:08 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
Well with any luck we won't have the injury bug bitting us in the
South end this year. We have three elite players, two on the come, and a bunch of journeymen. If I'm wrong they'll chew through the first five games and be 4-1 going into the two before the bye week. We'll see. If they don't loose too many defensive tackles down the stretch...they'll have a shot at a home field play off game. TTP book says we'll be two and three, and scrambling. They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, on an opening day...you can get out the dancing shoes.

adam 05-28-2008 01:35 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 926543)
Overrated: RB Ahman Green. There are some who think he's still an elite runner. I don't. So he gets the nod here on a tough team to find an overrated player.

Somebody help me out; is this a slam meaning we have only a couple of players (A.J., DeMeco, Mario) on anyone's radar and the rest of the squad consists of "nobodys"? Or am I being paranoid again?
:thinking:

I actually thought he was putting forth the motion the majority of the players on the team are under rated.

HOU-TEX 05-28-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 926543)
Overrated: RB Ahman Green. There are some who think he's still an elite runner. I don't. So he gets the nod here on a tough team to find an overrated player.

Somebody help me out; is this a slam meaning we have only a couple of players (A.J., DeMeco, Mario) on anyone's radar and the rest of the squad consists of "nobodys"? Or am I being paranoid again?
:thinking:

IMO, it's saying we do not have many players worthy of being rated at all. The National media really hasn't taken much notice of the Texans to correctly rate anyone.

Insideop 05-28-2008 02:04 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 926543)
Overrated: RB Ahman Green. There are some who think he's still an elite runner. I don't. So he gets the nod here on a tough team to find an overrated player.

Somebody help me out; is this a slam meaning we have only a couple of players (A.J., DeMeco, Mario) on anyone's radar and the rest of the squad consists of "nobodys"? Or am I being paranoid again?
:thinking:

I think it can be taken in both a good way and a bad way depending on how you look at it. So, I don't know if the writer (Prisco) was trying to give us a complement or a veiled putdown. I have to say though, when I first read it, I took it to be a complement, but who knows. idonno:

ObsiWan 05-28-2008 02:14 PM

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Okay, I'll be positive and take it to mean that while we only have 3 "Stars", all the other guys pull their weight so its hard to identify anyone that could be being over-hyped or over-rated, a la Reggie "I'm-the-next-Gayle-Sayers" Bush.

And I would also totally agree with the assessment that our O-line at least deserves First Runner-Up in the Under-Rated catagory.

MojoMan 05-28-2008 02:16 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 926043)
What's bigger: Bush as a disappointment or his girlfriend's (Kim Kardashian) ample behind?

Great question. I really don't think I can answer that one.

PHAROAH 05-28-2008 02:32 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
We have to start winning more games before the nation realize the type of talent we have.

TexanAddict 05-29-2008 09:39 AM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
While I appreciate the national media finally coming around and admitting that Bush has been a bust and that the Texans didn't screw the pooch in selecting Mario, I do take issue with the fact that most writers are taking the "everyone else thought Bush was gonna be great and Mario would suck" approach to breaking the news. There is quite a bit of crow left uneaten.

From the overrated/underrated arcticle:
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Originally Posted by Pete Prisco
We expected to see those electrifying, make-the-defensive-coordinators-sweat runs that he put on display at Southern California. Instead we have had a tentative, between-the-tackles runner who sure doesn't make us think of Gale Sayers, which the experts said he would.

Prisco's Overrated/Underrated for 2008

And this from his 2006 post draft grades:
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Originally Posted by Pete Prisco
Houston Texans

Worst pick: Mario Williams. They should have selected Reggie Bush. That said, Williams will be a good player.

Overall grade: A. Even without drafting Bush, they had a heck of a draft. The first four picks will all start as rookies.

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Originally Posted by Pete Prisco
New Orleans Saints

Best pick: They have to be thrilled Reggie Bush was there. Even with Deuce McAllister, a player I like a lot, they had no choice but to take Bush.

Overall grade: B. That grade is high only because they landed Bush. The rest of the draft was ho-hum.

Prisco's 2006 Draft Grades

I mean, where's the accountability? How about you lump yourself in with those so-called "experts" that hyped Bush into the stratosphere and panned the Texans all season because of it. I will give him a bit of credit since he at least stated Mario would be a good player, but he still insisted the Texans made the wrong call.

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HOU-TEX 05-29-2008 09:58 AM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
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Originally Posted by TexanAddict (Post 927373)
While I appreciate the national media finally coming around and admitting that Bush has been a bust and that the Texans didn't screw the pooch in selecting Mario, I do take issue with the fact that most writers are taking the "everyone else thought Bush was gonna be great and Mario would suck" approach to breaking the news. There is quite a bit of crow left uneaten.

From the overrated/underrated arcticle:

Prisco's Overrated/Underrated for 2008

And this from his 2006 post draft grades:


Prisco's 2006 Draft Grades

I mean, where's the accountability? How about you lump yourself in with those so-called "experts" that hyped Bush into the stratosphere and panned the Texans all season because of it. I will give him a bit of credit since he at least stated Mario would be a good player, but he still insisted the Texans made the wrong call.

Doh! Busted! That's pretty funny stuff. You should email this exact post to him and kind of rub it in a bit.

Wolf 05-29-2008 01:44 PM

Re: Overrated-underrated by Prisco
 
enjoy
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/8544766

:gun:

mods please move my post to the NFL section thread that talks about Prisco, I put this on the wrong one :(
thanks


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