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texansalltheway 12-12-2004 04:09 PM

David Pollack
 
I am really hoping that we pick up Pollack next year, he could be the key piece in our defense that can give us a boost in the pass rush department. Like last year when we drafted Robinson, we upgraded two areas, CB and FS (by moving Coleman to FS). This year we could draft Pollack to play ROLB and move Wong to ILB to play next to Sharper and improve two areas. Pollack won the Lombardi (best lineman) and Chuck Bednarik Trophy (best defensive player) plus nemberous All-American honors. He has a non-stop motor and was one of the most feared pass rushers in college for the past 3 yrs. He 6-3 and 260 and would be an ideal compliment to Babin. Wong proved this year what a valuable playmaker he can be for our team with his pass rush and pass coverage ability. With Wong as an ILB we have three legit pass rushers that can blitz from different angles and cause havoc in the backfield. Pollack in addition to be a top defensive player is also a class act off the field. He stayed till his senior year and would rival Carr as the nice guy on the team.

astrofan 12-13-2004 12:22 AM

"also played on offense as a fullback ....recorded 86 tackles, 30 assists, two sacks, 23 tackles-for-loss, and three forced fumbles as a senior...tied school record for most tackles in a game with 14...Helped his team reach the state quarterfinals with an 8-5 record his senior season...also lettered in basketball and wrestling..."

I have said several times that our front five (line+olbs) should have wrestling experience. My worry is that he goes before we get a shot. Hopefully, everyone in front has more pressing needs than a DE>OLB. Also, it seems like he played DT/DE at Shiloh...

"The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Super Southern 100, Top 50 in Georgia, and Class AAAAA First Team All-State as a defensive lineman....GeorgiaSports Writers Association All-State defensive lineman....SUPERPREP All-Dixie Team....named one of the top 25 defensive tackles in the country by Student Sports Magazine....Defensive lineman of the year as a junior and senior in Gwinett County...Atlanta Touchdown Club Defensive Player of the Week October 28, 2000 and Defensive Lineman of the Year as a senior... "

while their are some guys like Roth and Cody who are natural LBs playing out of position...

Cody "First team All-State tight end by the state's coaches and Tulsa World ... member of the Daily Oklahoman's Red-Chip List ... second team All-State by the same publication ... played quarterback, running back, fullback, tight end, receiver, linebacker, defensive end and free safety ... District 5A-3 Defensive Player of the Year ... No. 3 in Class 5A receiving with 18 catches for 535 yards and seven touchdowns ... recorded 65 tackles and five pass deflections ... helped his team to an 11-1 record and an appearance in the state quarterfinals ... "

Roth "High school honors - - Named to numerous prep all-America teams as a linebacker and fullback . . . named Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by the Chicago Tribune . . . lettered four years in football at Willowbrook . . . named to the ESPN and Reebok first all-America teams as a senior . . . all-conference as a junior . . . as a senior he was also named first team all-state and conference Defensive Player of the Year . . . football captain and MVP as a senior . . . Career - - junior and senior stats include 271 tackles, 52 tackles for loss and 15 quarterback sacks . . . team had a 15-7 record his final two years . . . defensive stats as a senior show 161 tackles, 23 tackles for loss, four quarterback sacks, an incredible 12 blocked kicks and 10 forced fumbles . . . rushed for 307 yards and four touchdowns as a senior . . . lettered four times in wrestling, earning state title as a senior with perfect 31-0 record. "

Pollack Link


Cody Link

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-13-2004 12:27 AM

With the emergence of Peek, I don't see us drafting an OLB on the first day.

texansalltheway 12-14-2004 02:46 PM

I like Peek but it seems all he can do is be a pass rush specialist and is still weak in stopping the run and pass coverage. Pollack is a better all around football player good against the pass and rush (not sure about pass coverage but he is a smart player and can probably pick it up) He plays in a tough conferense (SEC) and constantly goes up against pro level T (Shaun Andrews, Jacob Rogers, Max Starks) and still succeeds.
This year he went up against players like:
OL Marcus McNeill Auburn 6-9 340 Jr. Decatur, Ga.
OL Andrew Whitworth LSU 6-7 325 Jr. West Monroe, La.
OL Michael Munoz Tennessee 6-6 315 Sr. Mason, Ohio
And opposing offense concentrated on stopping him and he still led the SEC in sacks.

Lucky 12-14-2004 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrofan
defensive stats as a senior show 161 tackles, 23 tackles for loss, four quarterback sacks, an incredible 12 blocked kicks and 10 forced fumbles

Not real sure why you're posting Roth's HS stats? But I am sure that when you cut & paste this info, you need to provide links. I'll be a nice guy and provide the link on Matt Roth.

astrofan 12-14-2004 07:50 PM

Roth had decent competition
Michigan
LT Adam Stenavich 6-5 318
RT Jake Long 6-7 335

Ohio State
LT Rob Sims 6-4 310
RT Kirk Barton 6-6 305

Penn State
LT Levi Brown 6-5 311
RT John Wilson 6-6 319

Purdue
LT Mike Otto 6-5 309
RT David Owen 6-6 294

Wisconsin
LT Joe Thomas 6-8 295
RT Morgan Davis 6-5 327

Cody, even better

Bowling Green
LT Kory Lichtensteiger 6-3 295 Second Team All-MAC


Houston
LT Phil Hawkins 6-5 321 Second-Team, All-American at Morgan Park

Oregon
LT Adam Snyder 6-6 320

Texas Tech
LT Daniel Loper 6-6 324 best LT in big XII (could hit 95mph as a pitcher at Episcopal)

Texas
LT Jonathan Scott 6-7 305 2nd best LT in big XII

Kansas State
LT Jon Doty 6-8 300 preseason second team All-Big 12

Kansas
LT Matt Thompson 6-4 295 transfer from AirForce premed/organical biology major

Oklahoma State
LT Kellen Davis 6-5 290

Nebraska
LT Mike Erickson 6-4 300 most versatile Husker lineman

Baylor
LT Quintin 6-4 329 Outland 26 starts in a row played every game of his career

Colorado
OT Sam Wilder 6-5 295 Joe Romig award winner
OT Clint O'neal 6-5 300 very experienced at both tackle positions

while not big names all of these guys are pretty good

edit: souce http://www.collegesports.com/teams/cs-teams.html

astrofan 12-14-2004 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky
Not real sure why you're posting Roth's HS stats? But I am sure that when you cut & paste this info, you need to provide links.

I refer to his experience playing multiple positions vs. Pollack being a DT/DE, as well as being a very good wrestler like #93
if you don't get excited reading about this kind of production, well...
I don't know what to say
links will be provided in the future
thankyou

Lucky 12-14-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrofan
...if you don't get excited reading about this kind of production, well...

Hey, I think Roth is a very good NFL prospect. I just think his college stats might be more relavent to a discussion of his NFL potential.

One problem I see with the guys listed is that they may bulk up in the offseason to show scouts they're legit 43 DEs. They probably are, but if they get much more bulkier they'd lose some of their quickness. And that would make them less attractive to the Texans if they remain a 34 defense.

astrofan 12-14-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky
I just think his college stats might be more relavent to a discussion of his NFL potential.

I was not talking about NFL potential as much as I was trying to find guys more readily adaptable to our style. Specifically, the difference between a great end who played mainly tackle in highschool and moved outside in college, perhaps due to his loss of explosiveness with added bulk as opposed to two guys that played linebacker in highschool, but are so powerful that they had more value in the defensive scheme as down linemen.


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