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NitroGSXR 05-20-2008 06:01 PM

Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
As per Chron.com...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/5792609.html

Okay... Don't we want to give him a little more time before reupping his contract? I'm not sure but I'd at least like to see how this draft has panned out. Technically, Smith has only been able to see how one draft of his panned out which was last year's. We don't even know how this years has panned out and we surprised some people with some of our picks so why can't we wait to see how those pan out before reupping his contract?

Seems silly to me. Let's give him two drafts and we'll go from there. Why re-up so early? I'm not campaigning against Smith. I am a huge fan of him. Just.. want to take a wait and see approach before setting up our future for the future which as already been altered.

Texan_Bill 05-20-2008 06:05 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921722)
As per Chron.com...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/5792609.html

Okay... Don't we want to give him a little more time before reupping his contract? I'm not sure but I'd at least like to see how this draft has panned out. Technically, Smith has only been able to see how one draft of his panned out which was last year's. We don't even know how this years has panned out and we surprised some people with some of our picks so why can't we wait to see how those pan out before reupping his contract?

Seems silly to me. Let's give him two drafts and we'll go from there. Why re-up so early? I'm not campaigning against Smith. I am a huge fan of him. Just.. want to take a wait and see approach before setting up our future for the future which as already been altered.


Actually Nitro, you bring up some valid points.

Just don't discount what he's done beyond the draft. Remember, what he's done with picking up FA acquisitions off of the street too...

Lucky 05-20-2008 06:09 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921722)
Why re-up so early?

It's not that early. Smith is in the final year of his contract.

NitroGSXR 05-20-2008 06:12 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill (Post 921727)
Actually Nitro, you bring up some valid points.

Just don't discount what he's done beyond the draft. Remember, what he's done with picking up FA acquisitions off of the street too...

Sure but was that really him or was that a result of our team being as bad as it was? It wasn't really all that hard to come in off the street and make our roster at one time or another. Pains me to say this but we were a really bad football team at his inception.

If I were an FA off the street looking to try and get into the NFL, I'd be looking at the worst team in the NFL since my chances would be better of making the team. I really think that this season is Rick Smith's contract year. Let's play the season and see how it pans out. I really really don't want to extend his contract right now. I'm afraid to!

Again, I'm a big fan of Smith.

NitroGSXR 05-20-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 921731)
It's not that early. Smith is in the final year of his contract.

Is he? I thought he signed a three year contract. It's now year two?

Lucky 05-20-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921735)
Is he? I thought he signed a three year contract. It's now year two?

He signed a 3 year deal in 2006. 2008, this year, is the final year of the contract.

Goldensilence 05-20-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
I think it'd be a smart move to extend it this summer.

I like his dedication, his demeanor, his approach to the draft and free agency, and how well it seems him and Kubiak work in tandem to build this organization from the ground up. Seems like one of those guys that when he gets this team built up to where it needs to be he has the forethought to make solid decisions down the road.

Another thing I'd like to get him signed long term is if you look at winning teams in the NFL usually you have ownership and front office stability.

Lucky 05-20-2008 06:24 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldensilence (Post 921741)
I think it'd be a smart move to extend it this summer.

It should at least match up with Kubiak's contract, which expires after the 2010 season.

mariowillshine15 05-20-2008 06:36 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
He's shown alot of positive direction and made alot of good moves itd be a shame not to extend him.

The franchise is on such a rise right now and he's been a major reason along with kubiak and the development of our young star players(Williams,Ryans,Robinson,Johnson and so on)

ObsiWan 05-20-2008 06:43 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921733)
Sure but was that really him or was that a result of our team being as bad as it was? It wasn't really all that hard to come in off the street and make our roster at one time or another. Pains me to say this but we were a really bad football team at his inception.

If I were an FA off the street looking to try and get into the NFL, I'd be looking at the worst team in the NFL since my chances would be better of making the team. I really think that this season is Rick Smith's contract year. Let's play the season and see how it pans out. I really really don't want to extend his contract right now. I'm afraid to!

Again, I'm a big fan of Smith.

riiiiiiight....
think about what you're saying...

This is the last year of Rick's deal. What message would waiting to extend it send?
If I were Rick, and Bob McNair wasn't interested in extending my soon-to-expire contract, it would indicate I might need to start putting feelers out to find another job in another city. If I'm going to be working for the Texans, then I need to know now so I can start preparing for the 2009 draft.

Or would you rather wait until after the college football season has come and gone?

And "afraid" of WHAT!?

Texans_Chick 05-20-2008 06:44 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921722)
As per Chron.com...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/5792609.html

Okay... Don't we want to give him a little more time before reupping his contract? I'm not sure but I'd at least like to see how this draft has panned out. Technically, Smith has only been able to see how one draft of his panned out which was last year's. We don't even know how this years has panned out and we surprised some people with some of our picks so why can't we wait to see how those pan out before reupping his contract?

Seems silly to me. Let's give him two drafts and we'll go from there. Why re-up so early? I'm not campaigning against Smith. I am a huge fan of him. Just.. want to take a wait and see approach before setting up our future for the future which as already been altered.

Eh, it's just money.

Unlike player contracts that have cap consequences, if McNair some day decides he doesn't like Smith any more, he can fire him.

His money, he can do what he wants with it.

I do think it is a good signal to show to the world that he is an owner who values stability and likes to reward people with the organization.

TexansFanatic 05-20-2008 06:47 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
If I had to choose between overbidding and securing him preemptively for a long time or waiting and possibly getting into a bidding war for his services or even losing him, then I choose the former.

But that's just me, I'm nutty like that.

Every move he makes is executed decisively and there are few, if any, results anyone can point to that have been less than positive. Pay the man!

NitroGSXR 05-20-2008 06:50 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 921736)
He signed a 3 year deal in 2006. 2008, this year, is the final year of the contract.

Okay. I was thinking about this...

He signed with the Texans after the 2006 draft. Logically, I would think that his contract would be up after the 2009 draft.

Which is why I think we're maybe jumping the gun a little bit on the renegotiation.

Or are you certain that it expires at the end of 2008?

ObsiWan 05-20-2008 07:02 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
This is a business. And Rick Smith has been a major contributor to this business's significant improvement. Now unless you want to wait around, and like Fanatic said, have your competitors pricing him out of sight, you pay him now.

And I still don't understand what you meant by, "I'm afraid to."
Afraid of what???

Like T.C. said, if he starts screwing up - which I don't see happening - fire him.

Second Honeymoon 05-20-2008 07:06 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
if its his final year he needs an extension. i sure hope he and McNair find a way to not get left in the dust with the cap-free year of 2010. dallas is already locking up their guys for 2010 and Rick needs to get busy as well. If your guy isn't under contract in 2010, he won't be your guy any longer....also we need to pick up a top FA next offseason and put the maximum hit on 2010, the cap free year. If you got the money, spend it now because 2010 is going to be insane....lets hope we have a 2011 season. It even lines up with the Dallas superbowl. Houston v Dallas is currently a pipedream but with a few moves on each side, they could be fighting over the Lombardi in 2011....in Dallas.

NitroGSXR 05-20-2008 07:10 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 921759)
riiiiiiight....
think about what you're saying...

My my.. Aren't you a bundle of joy here?

It's a message board? Isn't this where I come to get information from fellow fans? Seriously... work on your demeanor. Just because you're fifty something years old doesn't give you the right to mockingly dismiss who I'm a fan of. I'm a big fan of Rick Smith and you're not going to mock that, old man. Respect given is respect earned. You've earned nothing from me.

That being said...

I'm under the impression that he's in year two of his contract. At best, he's got one full year to go. Not seven months as Lucky implied. For me to even ask to see at least how our picks are panning out over camp and stuff isn't asking much on waiting before signing Smith to a blockbuster contract which is what I probably want to happen because I'm a huge fan of him. I just want to get a better sampling is all.

If his contract really is up at the end of the year then I can fully understand him being extended at this point in time.

Be nice.

barrett 05-20-2008 07:14 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
you pay him! you pay him now! you pay him whatever the f*ck he wants!!! you lock him up for a LONG time.

this man, is without question in my book the absolute number 1 reason why the Houston Texans have had such a fast turnaround. He and Kubiak are a team. You cannot overstate the importance of having a GM and Head Coach (who is allowed by the owner to make big time decisions) that are attached at the brain!

The biggest thing that they have done to turn around this team is to instill a winning attitude. Just look at these message boards. We expect to win! Some will say we expect to improve, some will say we expect to be in the playoffs, but there is no question that we EXPECT to get better now.

I'd be fine with aligning him with Kubiak's contract and just renewing them together as the years go by. But whatever you do you've got to lock this man up.

He's just a pup! So is Kubiak! These guys could be a powerhouse tandem of winning football seasons for years to come. I don't see how you can underestimate the amount of progress these two men have created for this organization.

For being a team that went only 8-8, we are starting to be considered one of those franchises that people want to be apart of. Rick Smith is the main reason for that in my opinion. Followed second by Kubiak and his honest approach.

If you're running a business and the General Manager of that business has turned things around 180 and it's fun and exciting to go to work everyday, you'd reward him.

Pay him!

nunusguy 05-20-2008 07:24 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroHonda (Post 921722)
Why re-up so early?

The story says he's the youngest GM in the league and is also an African-American, which makes him a very hot commodity in the NFL. And McNair obviously likes him personally and feels comfortable with him by now,
so why not lock him up for a longer term before the competition grabs him ?

kiwitexansfan 05-20-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Pay the man, get it done.

I think stability goes along way in an organisation, the first two years of his contract shows the man has skills, lets lock those up.

Being young means he has great upside so lets lock him in on a nice solid contract.

gary 05-20-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Rick Smith's contract may get extended...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 921791)
The story says he's the youngest GM in the league and is also an African-American, which makes him a very hot commodity in the NFL. And McNair obviously likes him personally and feels comfortable with him by now,
so why not lock him up for a longer term before the competition grabs him ?

Agree with this all the way.


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