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Pantherstang84 05-20-2008 11:18 AM

Top 5 WR Corps?
 
Last night I met Joe Montana, yes that Joe Montana. He spoke at a dinner event for a conference I am attending in San Francisco. So I had the opportunity to talk a little football during the cocktail social with Joe for about 5 minutes.

I asked him if he had an opinion about the direction Houston was headed. He said he does not know Kubiak very well but talks to Steve (Young) quite a bit and Steve raves about Kubiak. However, he did say he thinks Houston's WR corps is probably in the top 5 in the league.

The best part was that there were some Cow Pattie fans at the dinner event too. He ragged on them (in good humored way) through out his speech. I was loving it. "Dallas fans we did not have one pick play in the playbook. That would have been illegal. But we had lots of rubbing plays. You can call it a pick if you want but it wasn't a pick. It was a rub." He told some pretty funny stories.

El Tejano 05-20-2008 11:28 AM

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I would've sacked him for the crap he pulled in the dome with the Chiefs. Matter of fact.....forget that dude!!!

El Tejano 05-20-2008 11:29 AM

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On a lighter note they are having a special on NFL Network today, I think at 7:30pm, talking about the top 10 WR corps of all time.

HOU-TEX 05-20-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantherstang84 (Post 921382)
Last night I met Joe Montana, yes that Joe Montana. He spoke at a dinner event for a conference I am attending in San Francisco. So I had the opportunity to talk a little football during the cocktail social with Joe for about 5 minutes.

I asked him if he had an opinion about the direction Houston was headed. He said he does not know Kubiak very well but talks to Steve (Young) quite a bit and Steve raves about Kubiak. However, he did say he thinks Houston's WR corps is probably in the top 5 in the league.

The best part was that there were some Cow Pattie fans at the dinner event too. He ragged on them (in good humored way) through out his speech. I was loving it. "Dallas fans we did not have one pick play in the playbook. That would have been illegal. But we had lots of rubbing plays. You can call it a pick if you want but it wasn't a pick. It was a rub." He told some pretty funny stories.

Hmm....according to NFLN's Top Ten Fueds, Joe and Steve don't talk to each other. :thinking:

Thanks for the info. Must have been cool to mix it up with Montana, huh?

Pantherstang84 05-20-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 921398)
Hmm....according to NFLN's Top Ten Fueds, Joe and Steve don't talk to each other. :thinking:

Thanks for the info. Must have been cool to mix it up with Montana, huh?

Yeah. It was pretty cool and he really is a really nice guy. Kind of funny about NFLN. Joe mentioned that he, Young and Ronnie Lott invest together in some business ventures.

adam 05-20-2008 12:38 PM

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Wow, that's pretty cool to hear coming out of someone like Joe Montana, who has certainly played with enough good WRs to know the difference between a good receiving corp and a bad one.

HOU-TEX 05-20-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantherstang84 (Post 921427)
Yeah. It was pretty cool and he really is a really nice guy. Kind of funny about NFLN. Joe mentioned that he, Young and Ronnie Lott invest together in some business ventures.

I suppose NFLN was just making something out of nothing. LOL.

He seems like a really cool and down to earth kinda guy. He was just on Rome a little while ago. Apparently he has a car in Indy. I think I heard him say that all winnings and donations go towards a childrens fund. If true, that should prove he's a great guy.

I think it was allstarsforkids.com :cool:

Texan_Bill 05-20-2008 01:46 PM

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BOOOOO to the NFLN. I saw that 'Top 10 Fueds' that HOU-TEX mentioned. I liked it that one of the guys said that you will never see those two (Montana and Young) at the same event. The other people interviewed truly made it sound like they didn't like each other.... and now it's some BS love fest.... That's crap.


PS... Agree with El Tejano for that crap at the Dome in a KC uni.


:jk:

El Tejano 05-20-2008 03:24 PM

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Like I mentioned before, they are going to show top WR corps in NFL history on NFLN tonight. I better see the FAB 4 on that list in the top 3.

gtexan02 05-20-2008 04:05 PM

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I like our WRs as much as the next guy, but you have to have some good koolaid to believe we are in the top 5.

Aj is easily top 5, but after him, we have role players an unproven talent. Good, but not great

Hooston Texan 05-20-2008 04:26 PM

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I'll take a stab at it. But I don't have the time at the moment to figure out each team's full WR contingent, so I'll go on the names I know (inexact, I admit), and I may miss some personnel changes.

1. New England. Randy Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Wes Welker. Even if they benefit from Tom Brady's brilliance, it is hard to rate this group below anyone else after the season they just had.

2. Arizona. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Both are complete studs regardless of who they get to replace Bryant Johnson.

3. Cincinnati. Johnson, Houshmandzadeh and Henry. When they are all motivated and out of jail/off suspension, they might be better than anyone else.

4. Green Bay. Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and now Jordy Nelson. We'll see if they thrive without Favre, but I think Jennings is a budding star, Driver can still play and Jones showed much promise last year. Nelson will be an excellent player.

5. New York Giants. Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Steve Smith. Maybe a little high for them, but they can all make plays.

I really like our wideouts, but I can't call them top 5. We have one legit star and some complementary pieces (the deep threat, the possession guy, etc.). We're probably in a group with the Steelers, Indy, Dallas and some others.

Hooston Texan 05-20-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by El Tejano (Post 921605)
Like I mentioned before, they are going to show top WR corps in NFL history on NFLN tonight. I better see the FAB 4 on that list in the top 3.

Assuming the NFLN has not yet aired its Top 10 WR shows, here's my predictions for it (in no particular order):

The Air Coryell Chargers (Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson/Wes Chandler, Kevin Duckworth). This is a no-brainer if it is "receiver corps" so Winslow is included.

The Jerry Rice/John Taylor 49ers.

Stallworth/Swann

The early 1990's Oilers.

The Bruce/Holt/Hakim Rams.

Clayton/Duper--if only for 1984 alone.

The 2007 Patriots.

The post-Smurf Redskins (Monk, Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders)

Biletnikoff/Branch

I cannot bring myself to list Cowboys on any such list, so I'll leave myself to 9 guesses.

Goldensilence 05-20-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooston Texan (Post 921650)
I'll take a stab at it. But I don't have the time at the moment to figure out each team's full WR contingent, so I'll go on the names I know (inexact, I admit), and I may miss some personnel changes.

1. New England. Randy Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Wes Welker. Even if they benefit from Tom Brady's brilliance, it is hard to rate this group below anyone else after the season they just had.

2. Arizona. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Both are complete studs regardless of who they get to replace Bryant Johnson.

3. Cincinnati. Johnson, Houshmandzadeh and Henry. When they are all motivated and out of jail/off suspension, they might be better than anyone else.

4. Green Bay. Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and now Jordy Nelson. We'll see if they thrive without Favre, but I think Jennings is a budding star, Driver can still play and Jones showed much promise last year. Nelson will be an excellent player.

5. New York Giants. Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Steve Smith. Maybe a little high for them, but they can all make plays.

I really like our wideouts, but I can't call them top 5. We have one legit star and some complementary pieces (the deep threat, the possession guy, etc.). We're probably in a group with the Steelers, Indy, Dallas and some others.

I would've put Indy and Detroit's corps in the top 5 instead of GB and NYG.

Harrison and Wayne are explosive and Bill Polian showed forethought in picking Anthony Gonzalez.

Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson will be a dynamic duo and Shaun McDonald put up better numbers then some #2s in the league.

Lucky 05-20-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooston Texan (Post 921658)
The Air Coryell Chargers (Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson/Wes Chandler, Kevin Duckworth).

Was that before or after the Duck hooped it up with the Blazers? :confused:

Hooston Texan 05-20-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 921688)
Was that before or after the Duck hooped it up with the Blazers? :confused:

Dadgummit. I meant Bobby Duckworth.

nero THE zero 05-20-2008 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooston Texan (Post 921650)
I'll take a stab at it. But I don't have the time at the moment to figure out each team's full WR contingent, so I'll go on the names I know (inexact, I admit), and I may miss some personnel changes.

1. New England. Randy Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Wes Welker. Even if they benefit from Tom Brady's brilliance, it is hard to rate this group below anyone else after the season they just had.

2. Arizona. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Both are complete studs regardless of who they get to replace Bryant Johnson.

3. Cincinnati. Johnson, Houshmandzadeh and Henry. When they are all motivated and out of jail/off suspension, they might be better than anyone else.

4. Green Bay. Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and now Jordy Nelson. We'll see if they thrive without Favre, but I think Jennings is a budding star, Driver can still play and Jones showed much promise last year. Nelson will be an excellent player.

5. New York Giants. Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Steve Smith. Maybe a little high for them, but they can all make plays.

I really like our wideouts, but I can't call them top 5. We have one legit star and some complementary pieces (the deep threat, the possession guy, etc.). We're probably in a group with the Steelers, Indy, Dallas and some others.

Stallworth is on the Browns now.

I would probably go:

1. Bengals -- Johnson, Housh, Henry
2. Browns -- Edwards, Stallworth, Jurevicius, Winslow
3. Cardinals -- Fitz and Boldin
4. Lions -- Johnson, Williams, and McDonald

Then at 5 you could go Pats (Moss and Welker), Texans (AJ, Walter, Davis, Daniels) or Packers (Driver, Jennings, Jones,) I would be fine with any one of those teams at 5. So, even if we're not top 5, I think we're close enough for it not to be totally absurd.

Lucky 05-20-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero (Post 921817)
1. Bengals -- Johnson, Housh, Henry

Henry was released last month after his latest bout of stupidity.

The Bungles did take a 3 WRs in this past draft. Jerome Simpson (2nd round), Andre Caldwell (3rd), and Mario Urrutia (7th). Simpson is a small college phenom who played here in the Shrine Bowl. I really like Caldwell as a physical slot receiver. But Urrutia, a big WR out of Louisville, could be a real sleeper. Urrutia had a big soph season, but struggled with a turf toe injury as a junior. It wouldn't surprise me if he's the rookie to inherit Henry's role as a vertical threat.

ObsiWan 05-20-2008 10:26 PM

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Are you guys doing your rankings based on last season's performance or what you project they should do this coming season?
:thinking:

Big Lou 05-20-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooston Texan (Post 921650)
I'll take a stab at it. But I don't have the time at the moment to figure out each team's full WR contingent, so I'll go on the names I know (inexact, I admit), and I may miss some personnel changes.

1. New England. Randy Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Wes Welker. Even if they benefit from Tom Brady's brilliance, it is hard to rate this group below anyone else after the season they just had.

2. Arizona. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Both are complete studs regardless of who they get to replace Bryant Johnson.

3. Cincinnati. Johnson, Houshmandzadeh and Henry. When they are all motivated and out of jail/off suspension, they might be better than anyone else.

4. Green Bay. Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and now Jordy Nelson. We'll see if they thrive without Favre, but I think Jennings is a budding star, Driver can still play and Jones showed much promise last year. Nelson will be an excellent player.

5. New York Giants. Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Steve Smith. Maybe a little high for them, but they can all make plays.

I really like our wideouts, but I can't call them top 5. We have one legit star and some complementary pieces (the deep threat, the possession guy, etc.). We're probably in a group with the Steelers, Indy, Dallas and some others.

FYI, Henry got cut from the Bungals, and is a Free Agent, but I agree Ocho and Hushmadilla can carry them to the top 5 alone.

And I don't like to talk crap, but New York in the top 5???? As much as I hate mentioning Indy because I really really really dislike them how can you leave them out of the top 5, but Plexiglass, Its not a Toomer, and Steve freaking Smith? Steve Smith had 63 regular season yards last year. Mark Breuner is a better reciever than Steve Smith.

nero THE zero 05-21-2008 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 921877)
Henry was released last month after his latest bout of stupidity.

Doh.

Still think they have the best duo in the league, though with Henry gone I'd probably put the Browns ahead of them.


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