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rockabilly 12-07-2004 02:21 AM

If not Capers...
 
Hi everyone. Realistically, I do not see Dom Capers as the coach for the long run. Capers is more of a "start em up" kind of coach for new franchises. I wouldnt be suprised to see him coach that new NFL team coming in a few years.

Anyway, with knowing that Capers wont be here for the long run, who would you like to see as the Texans next head coach?

I nominate Jimmy Johnson (coached the cowboys to 2 super bowls).

Marcus 12-07-2004 02:40 AM

I nominate Bottle-O-Bud for head coach, and Ibar Harry for offensive coordinator.

:neener: :rofl: :neener:

Wolf 12-07-2004 06:27 AM

I want to see Capers /Palmer after we get our roster complete. As much as I am down on the team after the loss. I do want to see them have time to fill the roster with their OWN players and have them groomed. In all reality we haven't had enough time to fill the roster with adequate depth.. But with this defense as it is now, I just find it hard to believe that we are getting ripped apart still.

bckey 12-07-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf
I want to see Capers /Palmer after we get our roster complete. As much as I am down on the team after the loss. I do want to see them have time to fill the roster with their OWN players and have them groomed. In all reality we haven't had enough time to fill the roster with adequate depth.. But with this defense as it is now, I just find it hard to believe that we are getting ripped apart still.

I never liked Capers/Palmer (ex-Oiler). It was a sad day for me when Capers was announced as head coach. I have to say Palmer is the worse of the 2 though.

WWJD 12-07-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rockabilly
Hi everyone. Realistically, I do not see Dom Capers as the coach for the long run. Capers is more of a "start em up" kind of coach for new franchises. I wouldnt be suprised to see him coach that new NFL team coming in a few years.

Anyway, with knowing that Capers wont be here for the long run, who would you like to see as the Texans next head coach?

I nominate Jimmy Johnson (coached the cowboys to 2 super bowls).


I don't think Jimmy is interested in coaching anymore. He's got such a cushy job with Fox.

keyfro 12-07-2004 10:52 AM

it's fine if you don't like our coaches right now...but let me point out this one thing...right now we're running a 3-4 defense and if your going to try and replace capers you better do it with another 3-4 defensive guy otherwise we'll be rebuilding a still building team

WWJD 12-07-2004 10:58 AM

Is it just message board talk about replacing Coach Capers or is there some truth to this via the media or Mr. McNair?

Double Barrel 12-07-2004 11:26 AM

It's just Message board talk :listening

McNair won't even think about it until after season 4.

brickmantexanfan 12-07-2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keyfro
it's fine if you don't like our coaches right now...but let me point out this one thing...right now we're running a 3-4 defense and if your going to try and replace capers you better do it with another 3-4 defensive guy otherwise we'll be rebuilding a still building team


I agree totaly,as stated earlier we still more depth on our roster,the talent is there and the depth is coming

WWJD 12-07-2004 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel
It's just Message board talk :listening

McNair won't even think about it until after season 4.


Thanks. I wasn't sure if somebody had written something about this in the Chronicle or there was an ESPN blurb or something. I'd be against firing Coach Capers.

Double Barrel 12-07-2004 12:45 PM

I agree WWJD. Trying to bring in a new coach and a whole new scheme would set this team back to square 1.

I think fans are getting frustrated due to the not-living-up-to-potential viewpoint. Capers and company are just scapegoats right now, justified or not.

Personally, I think it might be warranted to talk about after season 4, depending on how we finish. If there is no progression (ie. 2-14 season), then there will probably be a lot of merit to the debate.

But right now, I think they are just taking the brunt of everyone's venting about losing and the way they are losing (not a lot of fire, it seems).

Hervoyel 12-07-2004 12:51 PM

Ok, I think that Double Barrel is right and it wouldn't even cross McNair's mind before the end of next season (and probably not even then) but....

Going hypothetical here and saying that IF McNair did pop Capers after this season (which would scare me because I think it's too soon despite all my complaining) and IF Bud in Tennessee got stupid and let Fisher go as he does from time to time when he gets mad over a losing season, the I would want the Texans to take a good look at Fisher. I don't know for certain that he'd be a good fit here in such a situation but I think they'd be insane not to consider it.

In the pro ranks there aren't too many retreads out there I'd be interested in. Mostly I'd rather see them bring up a deserving coordinator from somewhere over pulling a senior citizen out of the broadcasting booth.

WWJD 12-07-2004 01:09 PM

Lots of "IFS" in there but I think Fisher would be an excellent addition to any team as head coach. I've always thought he was very good. That being said I think most of the threads here indicate we think Coach Capers will be here next year.

I do agree with DB though. After year 4 he may very well be on the hot seat.

sprtsfanatic 12-07-2004 01:25 PM

With everything being said....I dont think Coach Capers is the problem. We lack some more depth and more experience for the the 3 rookies that are major contributors to this team (D. Robinson, J. Babin, and G. Earl). I WOULD consider getting rid of our offensive coordinator though...there just have been way too many games where drives stall due to ridiculous play calling.

Blake 12-07-2004 01:50 PM

Capers will get his 5 years. And then they will go from there.

rhc564 12-07-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf
I want to see Capers /Palmer after we get our roster complete. As much as I am down on the team after the loss. I do want to see them have time to fill the roster with their OWN players and have them groomed. In all reality we haven't had enough time to fill the roster with adequate depth.. But with this defense as it is now, I just find it hard to believe that we are getting ripped apart still.

...hope you don't mind waiting a very long time and lots of time is still
no guarantee but at least it means job security

rhc564 12-07-2004 02:00 PM

Charlie Weiss

astrofan 12-07-2004 06:29 PM

Leach. End of discussion.

Reddevil63 12-07-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rhc564
Charlie Weiss

Or Romeo Crennel, Id like to see Fangio replaced before anybody else. Almost every other team that runs a 3-4, or some version of it, has a solid D that is hard to run on. Whats the deal with us then? Crennel runs the 3-4 D in New England and does a great job doing it.

fresno8 12-07-2004 06:46 PM

I haven't been happy with Capers at all this year, but really who is out there to come in and coach a team right now. A college coach (stoops/tedford,etc) definately wouldn't be the answer. Capers will have one more year and it could be a long one, but Palmer needs to go first and then see if a new o-cord can't fix some things. If Capers and a new o-cord can't get things going then capers needs to go.


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