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Vinny 12-05-2004 02:59 AM

Drafting Defensive Tackles in the First Round a Gamble
 
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“Defensive tackles have been every bit as tricky to draft as quarterbacks in the first round for years. There are about as many failures taking a defensive tackle high as there are quarterbacks, and maybe more. What happens is teams go off workouts or go off flashes that they see instead of going for players at that position who play every play. ”

— Ozzie Newsome, Ravens general manager
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=1937779

beerlover 12-05-2004 03:59 AM

sort of a depressing read to see such a high failure rate amongst such elite professionial athletes :thud:

size does matter, but attitude can be the great equalizer. a combination of both will warrant the high selection

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-05-2004 07:20 AM

thats why we should wait til the 2nd round to draft Gabe Watson. :heh:

Hottoddie 12-05-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS
thats why we should wait til the 2nd round to draft Gabe Watson. :heh:

Au contraire. We should draft Sione Pouha out of Utah in the 2nd or 3rd round.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings....php?pyid=6724

NoBullTexan 12-05-2004 05:38 PM

We've done OK so far with our drafting. I will be more than happy to leave it up to Casserly to the decision making on who we draft, and where, and for what position.

Mistril48 12-05-2004 07:02 PM

Thank you, Ozzie

Lucky 12-05-2004 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottoddie
We should draft Sione Pouha out of Utah in the 2nd or 3rd round.

This guy is a 25 year old man playing against boys. I would hope that he's dominating at the mid-major college level.

ArlingtonTexan 12-05-2004 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBullTexan
We've done OK so far with our drafting. I will be more than happy to leave it up to Casserly to the decision making on who we draft, and where, and for what position.

aah come on No Bull, you enjoy specualting before the draft and 2nd guessing after the draft as much as anyone :yap :yap :yap

ArlingtonTexan 12-05-2004 08:03 PM

while on DT and draft breakdowns
 
Chris Landry on a UT site answered a couple of questions on orangeblood.com...I am highlighting the Roderick Wright section in light of this conversasion.

Q: Larry Dibbles is coming off a great junior season and has been named to
several All-Big 12 teams already. How do you think he projects as an NFL
player? Is there anyone he reminds you of?

A: He has an explosive first step, has heavy hands and has the frame to develop into a fine interior rusher. With a good senior year he could definitely see the first round.

Q: It looks like Jonathan Scott, Mike Huff and Rod Wright are all going to come
back to UT for their senior seasons. However, if any of the three did come
out early, where would they be projected at this point to be taken?

A: Scott is still very raw and has first round potential is he improves his strength and learns to play with better leverage at the point of attack. He would go early second day this year if he came out.

Huff is a very versatile defender in the secondary capable of playing corner in the NFL in a cover 2 scheme. He will definitely be a solid nickel player who can line up over and jam a slot. He has the instincts to play inside at the next level but lacks the size. He would be a late first day pick and could improve that somewhat with a good senior year.

Wright has first round size and ability but free agent work ethic and dedication to the game. He has more ability than his cousin, Cedric Woodard now playing with the Seahawks. If he improves his dedication and work ethic, he could be a high first rounder. Right now he is considered a talented underachiever.
Chris Landry is a veteran NFL scout, having served with the Cleveland Browns, Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans and formerly ran the Indianapolis Scouting Combine. He now runs his own Scouting Consulting business where he scouts NFL and College personnel for NFL teams and help Universities and NFL teams in their Coaching evaluations and Searches. He can be heard nationally on FOX Sports Radio as their college football and NFL analyst.

Blake 12-06-2004 04:55 PM

I totally agree with this view of DT's in the 1st. They seem to not pan out, more often than do great. I see Wilfork doing great from last years draft. But Tubbs and Harris, im not too sure about.

texasguy346 12-06-2004 05:10 PM

From what I've seen of Harris he's played pretty well. Tank Johnson seems to have panned out well for the Bears too. The Bears defense had 5 sacks against the Vikings yesterday I believe.

TexasJedi 12-06-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by texasguy346
From what I've seen of Harris he's played pretty well. Tank Johnson seems to have panned out well for the Bears too. The Bears defense had 5 sacks against the Vikings yesterday I believe.

I don't like the sound of that since the Texans visit Chicago soon.

astrofan 12-10-2004 09:30 PM

I like Luis Castillo from N'western on day 2

keyfro 12-10-2004 09:39 PM

well sometimes it's more about the coaches you have coaching them up insted of them theirselves...and whether or not they have a good veteran to take tutor them...like kevin williams had chris hovan and look how productive kevin williams as been...you have to look at many things with DT's because there is so much they have to be able to do...i think in last years draft we'll find that darnell dockett will be the best overall DT that was taken but i still think tommie harris will be very good...wilfork will be good but not a household name because of the patriots system...i also find it funny that last years draft we didn't pick a DT up in the later rounds...i felt like there were plenty of options out there that we didn't attempt to get

astrofan 12-10-2004 09:45 PM

how long will Ngata last?

Huge 12-10-2004 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan
Chris Landry on a UT site answered a couple of questions on orangeblood.com...I am highlighting the Roderick Wright section in light of this conversasion.

Considering that's a pay site, should you really be posting that information here?

I'm not morally judging you. Just curious as to the Texans' stance on this.

ArlingtonTexan 12-10-2004 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Huge
Considering that's a pay site, should you really be posting that information here?

I'm not morally judging you. Just curious as to the Texans' stance on this.

Fair question...I will review the rules again, but since that is only a very short portion of a longer article where I gave full credit to the site I believe I am in the clear.


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