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WWJD 11-30-2004 01:02 PM

Notre Dame's coach-Fired
 
Coach Willingham was fired today by Notre Dame. It is unclear whether he will coach at their bowl game this year. Utah's head coach is the leading candidate to become ND's new coach.

profan 11-30-2004 01:42 PM

Talk about no patience, man father, give the poor man a chance, two seasons is not enough.

WWJD 11-30-2004 01:53 PM

I was just reading that he is a leading candidate at one of the Washington schools. He'll get another job soon. I think he's a good coach. I'm a bit surprised they fired him myself. I thought the Irish had a fairly decent season.

TheOgre 11-30-2004 02:14 PM

He had 3 seasons. I don't think his offense ever got on track.

texasguy346 11-30-2004 02:21 PM

Wow that's a bit surprising. I heard on PTI that Notre Dame has a history of honoring their coaches contracts, and haven't fired a coach with years remaining on his contract. He seemed to be making good progress there, but I guess it wasn't enough for the ND faithful. Tyrone had to get the right players to play his WCO, much like Callahan will have to get the right players at Nebraska. Quinn seemed to be maturing nicely at the QB, and their defense played pretty good most of the year. Good luck to the next coach of ND because expecations are obviously very high there.

Tulip 11-30-2004 08:01 PM

I just can't agree with firing a coach until he gets his own recruits in place. I didn't like it when they did it at UH a couple of years ago.

If Notre Dame continues all of the blame on their coaches, they are going to be in for endless disappointing seasons.

Vinny 11-30-2004 08:29 PM

I wonder when their contract with NBC runs out. They may be more impatient due to devilish forces like millions of dollars of TV exposure. Somebody is selling out on some level here.

Jonathan 11-30-2004 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny
I wonder when their contract with NBC runs out. They may be more impatient due to devilish forces like millions of dollars of TV exposure. Somebody is selling out on some level here.

They renewed it not too long ago

http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/news/20...0-580686.shtml

Vinny 11-30-2004 08:48 PM

thanks
 
They have a ton of pressure to win. This contract means big money to them. It's their cash cow.
Quote:

...Television ratings for Notre Dame home games have steadily declined in recent years. In 1993, when Notre Dame last seriously contended for a national championship, 6.2 million households watched Notre Dame football games, according to data provided by Nielsen Media Research. But that number dropped to 2.6 million in 2003.

The number of people who watch the Irish play on NBC appears to be tied to Notre Dame's success. In the last six years, the Irish have had just three winning seasons. In those years - 1998, 2000 and 2002 - an estimated average of 3.1 million households watched NBC games. When Notre Dame has had a losing season, however, an average of just 2.6 million households have tuned in annually...

...The revenue from the television deal has been one major reason why Notre Dame says it is able to meet 100 percent of the financial needs of its students, Heisler said. "That's a huge and underpublicized achievement," Heisler said. "For the people in admissions and financial aid, that's a big deal."

MarleyFan 11-30-2004 09:52 PM

Stanford has an opening.

dan7 12-01-2004 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarleyFan
Stanford has an opening.

Been there....done that (that's where Willingham was before he took the Notre Dame job).

dan7 12-01-2004 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOgre
He had 3 seasons. I don't think his offense ever got on track.

Agreed....and losing to Boston College and BYU didn't help either.

cuppacoffee 12-01-2004 08:48 PM

Inconsistency was one of the biggest complaints.
How do you defeat Michigan, Michigan State, and Tennessee, and lose to BYU, Boston College and Pittsburgh in the same season. :hmmm:
I think most domers are expecting Urban Meyer from Utah to be the next coach but this ND fan would prefer Dan Hawkins from Boise State or Charlie Weiss the NE Offensive Coordinator.

cac :coffee:

axman40 12-01-2004 09:34 PM

They fired Ty to make room for Urban .
:whistle:

cuppacoffee 12-01-2004 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axman40
They fired Ty to make room for Urban .
:whistle:

A lot of the posters on the ND site I visit agree with you.

cac :coffee:

dan7 12-02-2004 09:14 AM

What annoys me about this firing was that all other Notre Dame Head Coaches (no matter how poorly they performed) were allowed to retain their jobs for the duration of their contract.

This sets a bad precedent; if I had any say in the matter then Willingham would have been allowed to remain at ND until his contract ran out.

cuppacoffee 12-02-2004 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan7
What annoys me about this firing was that all other Notre Dame Head Coaches (no matter how poorly they performed) were allowed to retain their jobs for the duration of their contract.

This sets a bad precedent; if I had any say in the matter then Willingham would have been allowed to remain at ND until his contract ran out.

I don't know if there is any truth to it, but there are rumors circulating that Willinghams 'people' had contacted Washington to see if they had any interest in Willingham before the firing, this causing the emergency board meeting at ND.
Then again the fact that Willingham was NDs second choice as a coach when he was hired demonstrates that he wasn't their highest regarded coach at the time. I sickens me that people play the race card in all this because of all the hundred or so division one colleges ND was one of only three schools that hired a minority coach.
Instead of people piling on ND for firing a minority coach why not pile on the Longhorns or Aggies for never hiring one. There is probably more to this story than any of us outsiders will know any time soon.
Just my rant, I'm not accusing dan7 of piling on. Carry on.

cac :coffee:

texasguy346 12-03-2004 01:19 PM

ESPN News is citing several reports indicating that Utah head coach Urban Meyer will accept the Florida job. If so this would mean that Notre Dame will have to look elsewhere to find their head coach.

ColdSteelBlue 12-03-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axman40
They fired Ty to make room for Urban .
:whistle:

Then it was in vain. Urban will go to Florida. :neener:

Vinny 12-11-2004 08:36 PM

Charlie Weis is the new Coach
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1943710


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