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Beastlyman2003 11-29-2004 01:32 PM

Texan's 2005 Draft
 
This is a thread where you can come and post for all to see, who you think(or want) the Texans to draft on April 23 & 24. :hmmm:

Beastlyman2003 11-29-2004 01:48 PM

THE Beast's WISHLIST:

1.) Marcus Spears/DE/LSU-would fix two problems(like last years drafting of Dunta Robinson). We could then put Robaire Smith at NT and Marcus Spears at RE.

2.) Barrett Ruud/ILB/Nebraska-Would replace meaningless Jay Forman next to Jamie Sharper

3A.)Justin Tuck/OLB/Notre Dame-Could be the answer to our pass rush woes. Notre Dames ALL TIME sack leader.

3B.)DeAngelo Williams/RB/Memphis-Underrated leading rusher in the nation. With good size(5-10/220) and speed(4.43). He could be a diamond in the rough and light a fire under DD, to keep him on track. :heh:

Reddevil63 11-29-2004 01:55 PM

I dont think we have any GLARING needs, just some people who need to grow. With that being said there isnt one position we wouldnt draft if the right player is there. I think we are past the days of all offense or defense drafts and we simply go for best player available. Marcus Spears would definatly be a good pick as would Rod Wright if he was still around. Maybe Thomas Davis from Georia to give us a playmaking saftey.

wags 11-29-2004 02:57 PM

I don't think Payne is all that bad at NT. Payne is coming back from injury and has been more productive than Smith. That being said what DT prospect is better than Payne? Not Hawthorne or Wright. I have watched the last few UT games and teams don't even double team Wright, they double team Dibbles.

Marcus Spears seems like he's pretty good, but who does he replace? Walker and Smith have big contracts.

I like Thomas Davis. He can play both safety positions and has also played linebacker in college. He's 230 lbs, hits hard, and never misses a tackle. We would have a pretty sweet competition between him and Earl. Also Coleman could play some CB in certain situations while Davis and Earl play safety.

I'm not sure there are any ILB that are worthy of a top 20 pick. Maybe in the 2nd or third round.

I don't know if we will pick a RB in the first either. Hopefully DD picks it up. If not then it's fair game.

AndreJ 11-29-2004 09:55 PM

I think if we got Marcus Spears he should play RE (Walker's Spot) Walker is old and if his contract is too big we should switch him to DT in the middle i wouldn't start him though i would keep a fresh rotation between him and Payne or all of the D-Lineman

BuffSoldier 11-29-2004 10:29 PM

Wouldnt mind Thomas Davis, Marlin Jackson, or Corey Webster in the first round, but all I know is that we need to select a top notch OL in one of the first 3 rounds the O-line has taken a step back this year.

texansalltheway 11-29-2004 10:35 PM

1. David Pollack-Move Wong inside and have Pollack and Babin on the outside.

2. Haloti Ngata-6-3 345 is a massive run stuffer and pass rusher

3a. Antonio Perkins- 4.3 speed should be an All-Pro KR/PR

3b. Craphonso Thorpe-6-2 with 4.3 speed will be Bradford's replacement.

YoungTexanFan 12-01-2004 07:05 AM

Everyone seems to want a d linemen, and a linebacker. we arent doing that bad in the rushing defense. its passing defense we need. daunta robinson is here to stay! who do you see getting burned besides the rookie. i see marcus colmen. not just getting burned, but missing tackles, playing off his man too much, which is why they get the big play to start. i realize there are a lot of people to draft, but i would like to see us draft a big play safty, similar to sean taylor in ability not attitude. then i would like to see us maybe trade up to grab a d linemen. also do not touch cedric benson. he's not like ricky williams talent. but maybe pick a rb up on the second day. im just waiting for adrian peterson to be elegible. RECAP:
1a. big play safty
1b. passrush d linemen
3. another d linemen
4. possibly a rb...not benson

ArlingtonTexan 12-01-2004 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan
Everyone seems to want a d linemen, and a linebacker. we arent doing that bad in the rushing defense. its passing defense we need. daunta robinson is here to stay! who do you see getting burned besides the rookie. i see marcus colmen. not just getting burned, but missing tackles, playing off his man too much, which is why they get the big play to start. i realize there are a lot of people to draft, but i would like to see us draft a big play safty, similar to sean taylor in ability not attitude. then i would like to see us maybe trade up to grab a d linemen. also do not touch cedric benson. he's not like ricky williams talent. but maybe pick a rb up on the second day. im just waiting for adrian peterson to be elegible. RECAP:
1a. big play safty
1b. passrush d linemen
3. another d linemen
4. possibly a rb...not benson


Okay your basic premise is that the Texans rushing defense is not that bad...I disagree but don't feel like looking up the stats that will tell you very different.. I don't think that a Safety is the top need, but if one is there then i would consider drafting him.

beerlover 12-01-2004 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan
Okay your basic premise is that the Texans rushing defense is not that bad...I disagree but don't feel like looking up the stats that will tell you very different.. I don't think that a Safety is the top need, but if one is there then i would consider drafting him.

sounds like your in favor of BPA.

lets look at things from a long term perspective & how the Texans arrived at this point in time. To put a competitive team on the field from the beginning meant building through the expansion draft, with other teams older & expensive players. Now with three drafts under the Texans belts & on the cusp of a winning record the balanced building has to address its oldest parts. On the defensive side you have two lineman (Walker/re-signed & Payne unsigned) with Robaire Smith the future NT in waiting. From a drafting standpoint a fresh, large pair of legs are needed to keep the 3-4 a viable & effective defense going foward, hence Marcus Spears is #1 priority.

secondary also built through expansion with Coleman & Glenn is getting older and could get a look at but as we seen in last years drafting of Dunta Robinson CB and Glen Earl S the Texans have in place two young talented players. Another CB would make sense if Mr. Spears is gone as long as its one of the elite corners, like Webster. The Texans 2nd round pick then would have to address the defensive line that would fit the 3-4 scheme. Travis Johnson Florida State would require a trade-up similar to Babin last year but would add two very talented players for the Texans future.

last point regards the offense. The Texans have their franchise QB (Carr) & WR (AJ) but not RB. A couple of years ago when they drafted AJ the player the Texans where most fond of was Willis McGahee who tore his acl in the Hurricanes last game of the season. It took him a year to recover but look at whats hes done latley in Buffalo. Do the Texans have their franchise RB yet? Is Dominack, Wells or Hollings gonna be the man? Seems like a strong supporting cast which is what you need in the NFL but no Adrian Peterson or Willis McGahee. However Auburn has a pair of possible feature backs Carnell Williams & Ronnie Brown. Of the two it seems to me that Ronnie would be the perfect fit for the Texans. Once again if the Texans used the 1st pick on a RB I would be in favor of a trade up into the 1st round to select a premier defensive tackle like Travis Johnson.

recap: re-tool the defensive line Marcus Spears/Travis Johnson. Add another talented CB (Webster) or franchise RB (Brown) the later two options would require a trade up for Travis Johnson, while the Marcus Spears selection would not.

ArlingtonTexan 12-01-2004 10:38 PM

Beerlover,

Basically I am BPA type guy in general as i don't wish to pass up really good players in order to pick a lesser quality need guy, but most of the time there is a bunch of guys rated closely when a team picks so then team needs come into play.

For me, I would like to see the following position addressed with the (as for now) 8 picks. I think that the team will address a couple in FA. (with who I can't even start to guess)

DL- not only 4 of the top 6 FA but youth with better quickness is need
ILB-address and develop before Sharper/Foremen become age/contract issue
TE- Even with Joppru healthy I think we need another block and catch guy
OT-the 3rd best tackle on the team plays OG
CB- always use another one, glenn with some age
C-tons of guys that can play the position none capable of pushing McKinney
RB-need to draft/sign a workhouse type if Caper insists on pounding the ball
S-only olny if there is a darn good one
WR-especially if is speed guy or KR or better both

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-02-2004 12:41 AM

1. Ahmad Brooks
2. Gabriel Watson
3a. DeAngelo Williams
3b. Ronald Bartrell

LB Love 12-02-2004 01:23 PM

1. David Baas G/C Michigan
2. Will Blackmon CB Boston College
3a. Robert McCune ILB Louisville
3b. Anthony Bryant NT Alabama

Blake 12-02-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB Love
1. David Baas G/C Michigan
2. Will Blackmon CB Boston College
3a. Robert McCune ILB Louisville
3b. Anthony Bryant NT Alabama

You might be able to trade up in the 2nd to get bass. Maybe.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-02-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_ROCK
You might be able to trade up in the 2nd to get bass. Maybe.



I think so too. If there is an OG that gets drafted in the first round, it is Elton Brown out of Virginia.

LB Love 12-02-2004 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_ROCK
You might be able to trade up in the 2nd to get bass. Maybe.

I agree, I just thought his versatility (exp. playing both C and G) and pedigree might push him into the first.

beerlover 12-02-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS
I think so too. If there is an OG that gets drafted in the first round, it is Elton Brown out of Virginia.

thats consensous, but don't forget about the OT's they can always start out playing the guard position then move into the OT slot latter. Alex Brown, Flordia State, Jammal Brown, Oklahoma, Michael Munoz Tennesse & Wesley Britt (tremendous upside @ 6-8 315 lbs) Alabama.

bass will be a 2nd round pick

i like the Beasts wish list, man that would be sweet dude :heh:

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-03-2004 11:13 PM

Does anyone know if Eric Shelton is entering the Draft?

ArlingtonTexan 12-04-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Does anyone know if Eric Shelton is entering the Draft?

According to Louisville's rivals site, Shelton is a JR. so he is eligible...From the post I could find they were more worried about their football coach leaving than any specific player, but I left a question for someone to answer.

for those who don't knwo shelton is a really bid back 6'1 ish probably 245 who ran for like 1500 yards. don't know how fast he is though.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 12-04-2004 05:29 PM

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings....php?pyid=5068


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