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adamb10 11-22-2004 05:34 PM

Your quarterback is the next Favre
 
Packer fan here,

1st off great game! It was close game especially that 4th quarter. I took this game as a easy win at the beginning of the season. I thought of the Texans as the Detroit Lions. Boy was I wrong. Your Texans played great out there. Congrats on nearly beating us.

Your QB David Carr is the next Brett Favre. He has got a good arm and I can see him being in the hall of fame some day. :) Don't ever trade that guy.

OzzO 11-22-2004 05:39 PM

Welcome to the site adamb10 and the kind words in the first post. It's a little rough right now in the growing stages, especially since we've seen flashes of what's to come. Now, if those flashes could come a little more consistent.

HJam72 11-22-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamb10
Your QB David Carr is the next Brett Favre.

Wow. Can't wait to see that.

Dime 11-22-2004 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by adamb10
Packer fan here,

1st off great game! It was close game especially that 4th quarter. I took this game as a easy win at the beginning of the season. I thought of the Texans as the Detroit Lions. Boy was I wrong. Your Texans played great out there. Congrats on nearly beating us.

Your QB David Carr is the next Brett Favre. He has got a good arm and I can see him being in the hall of fame some day. :) Don't ever trade that guy.

Thank you for your post.. I believe you are right. Carr might be the next Favre of the future. (But you got the man, must be happy with that tho, smile). My question is, with health issues and such for Favre, what do you see in the future of your QB situtation when Brett steps down (not that I hope its soon, but getting older tho).

swisher 11-22-2004 06:25 PM

I've always liked Favre. This was the first game I've ever watched where I could honestly say that if we had to lose at least we lost to a good guy like Favre. He's a throwback for sure.

axman40 11-22-2004 06:43 PM

It's too bad Carr did not show that Farve moxie last night. I have never seen Farve check down to 2 running plays and then throw a 1 yard pass.IMO Carr is the heart and soul of the offense and it was painful to watch him not step up to the challenge.I know Carr was trying to put the team in the best position to win but with less than 8 minutes left in the game I want #8 throwing the ball down the field.End of my rant.
:cool:

Grid 11-22-2004 07:15 PM

thanks for the well wishes :).. yah Carr is going to be great.. give us another season to iron out the offense and get some more personel on defense and we might be meeting in the post season.

oh.. and sorry for the state of the board :P.. apparently our short winning streak this year earned us a few bandwagon fans.. and they are all coming out to spew their ignorance at anyone who will read it.

phan1 11-22-2004 07:17 PM

thanks...still upset...tough game.... ughhhh... 3 losses in a row.... unbelievable.... sigh.....

OzzO 11-22-2004 09:11 PM

Not sure what stats you're looking for, but here ya go.
Favre stats

Packattack 11-22-2004 09:31 PM

Are you kidding? I don't know how long this guy has been a pack fan, but he's out of line here. I'm pretty sure he's just kissing some ***** to make you guys feel better.

David Carr is a good QB. Above average. He is NOT the next Favre, no one in the league right now resembles a young Brett Favre.

David Carr is David Carr. Let him define his career by himself. Right now, he seems more worried about his hair than the next playcall. I swear, I had a couple of buds over to watch the packer game and we were all looking around, wondering if he just took off his helmet to fix his hair.

Anways, good game texan fans. I thought we were going to steamroll you guys, but you really showed some heart out there. Best of luck for the rest of the year...

Grid 11-22-2004 09:40 PM

hey.. thanks for coming all the way over here to be a jerk. have a good year.

H-TownRules 11-22-2004 10:27 PM

what is it with packers fans? I expected them to be cool, but the ones near my section were complete morons and jerks. I never thought I would say this but I actually enjoyed the Raiders, Vikings, and dare I say JAGUARS fans more than these losers. Even my mom, a lifelong Pack fan, was disgusted with some of the Packers fans at the game last nite... you guys were really dissapointing in your sportsmanship/respect category.

And by the way... I still really really hate the Jaguars and everyone associated with them.

Favre2Walker 11-25-2004 12:36 AM

Hi,

Not a regular here and I am not a troll but I had to register and tip my hat to your team.

Before the season I had this down as a very dangerous game. While Packer fans were stressing over the Vikes and Eagles it was this game that had me worried.

I am very impressed with your organization. I feel you are one more good draft away from being among the AFCs elite. Maybe not quite to the level of the Patriots just yet but certainly w/ the Colts and Broncos.

Carr is a classy young player and you guys are on the right track. Just a few more pieces needed.

I am not at all surprised by the game...hard fought,clean,fun. Experience was the difference. In 10 years Carr will be the ol' vet w/ 1 or 2 Super Bowl rings frustrating some young buck QB for another team.

In dealing w/ Bear and Viking fans its refreshing to see fans w/ intelligence and class.

Good luck the rest of the season.

Mistril48 11-25-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Packattack
Are you kidding? ... David Carr is a good QB... He is NOT the next Favre...

I guess Packattack notices differences between Carr and Favre, like:

a) Every team passed on Favre in the draft (2nd round);
b) Favre was traded by the team that drafted him after only one year;
c) Alcoholism and drug addiction; and
d) 6 interceptions in a playoff game (St. Louis)

Vinny 11-25-2004 03:50 PM

I'd take Farve straight up for Carr right now.

Favre2Walker 11-25-2004 04:12 PM

I guess Packattack notices differences between Carr and Favre, like:

a) Every team passed on Favre in the draft -Every team passed on Montana too....twice in fact (3rd rd).

b) Favre is the only 3 time MVP.

c) Alcoholism and drug addiction; and Favre is a human who fessed up and cleaned up his act. I'm sure a few of your sports heros drink and cheat on thier wife and do drugs..only those players aren't half the player,man or person Brett is AND they likely will never do anything to clean up that part of thier life. By 'drugs' you make it sound like he did crack. He got hooked on a legal drug due to pain from his job. One play in the NFL you'd be hit and would probably never walk right again. You forgot to mention whe Favre opted out of a practice to be w/ his wife when she was tested for cancer. What a bum he is!

d) 2 Super Bowls and 3 NFC title games.

e) 6 interceptions in a playoff game (St. Louis) At least Favre PLAYS in play off games. Lets see how many Carr plays in. Fact is,the team Carr leads RIGHT NOW is light years ahead of the 92 Packers in terms of talent yet Favre led that team to 9-7. The following year he took the Pack into Detroit and won a PO game. Carr? Didn't think so.


:BananaWav

Youngstown Colt 11-25-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistril48
c) Alcoholism and drug addiction;

now i cant understand bashing favre for these things. criticizing someone for alcohol and drug problems. WTF? thats not too cool. you know god forbid someones life isnt picture perfect like dave carrs.

dan7 11-25-2004 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdEyeBC32
How many SB rings does he have 1 or 2?


One...........

Mistril48 11-26-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeBC32
How many SB rings does he have 1 or 2?

1 - in 1997 (35-21)

http://www.mistupid.com/sports/superbowl.htm

Mistril48 11-26-2004 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngstown Colt
now i cant understand bashing favre for these things. criticizing someone for alcohol and drug problems. WTF? thats not too cool. you know god forbid someones life isnt picture perfect like dave carrs.

You're right. It's inexcusable. Thank you for calling me on it.

My point simply is that while Favre is a great QB (perhaps the best ever - everyone is entitled to their own opinion) I am sick of the media acting like he is perfect and can do no wrong. It's a better and more realistic story that he's a great QB and a real human being. He makes lots of mistakes. He throws intercpetions, makes bad reads, but still picks himself up. Why is it necessary to try to turn him into a fairy tale?

I am so sick of the media saying "If I needed 1 QB for 1 game, I'd take Brett Favre." Quess what - the playoff game against the Rams was the Packers biggest game of the year in 2002 and he threw 6 interceptions - maybe that day Montana would have been a better choice. The next year, the home playoff game against the inexperienced Falcons was the biggest Packer game. Another loss. Last year. The playoff game against the Seahawks was the biggest game of their year to that point. In overtime, Brett got the ball and couldn't get a first down. On the next series, a Packer CB scored a toughdown and saved the Packers. Then they play the Eagles and I'm sure everyone remembers his ridiculous floating pass against the Eagles for an interception that cost the Packers a trip to the Superbowl.

I think Favre is a great QB. Isn't that enough. Let's not ignore the facts that he is also a human being (perhaps even a nice guy - I've never met him).

Why must the media always spin illusion.


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