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blockhead83 11-07-2004 08:33 PM

Broncos game thoughts
Well, we came out of the gates playing the kind of football we wanted. DD was getting decent YPC, Carr was spreading the ball, and the D was stopping the Broncos running game. It just seemed like we couldn't make the big plays (ie. converting third downs, stopping third downs) and the Broncos not only did that but also had several long, LONG plays that made our secondary look pretty inept. Not that it was all on the secondary's shoulders, Plummer and his o-line were buying alot of time.

- Was Eric Brown benched in favor of Glenn Earl? Not sure if he was injured or otherwise, but I thought Earl performed pretty admirably. I saw him around the ball alot, and saw him running behind a receiver much less than I saw Brown doing same.

- Carr was having more trouble than normal today. I think that's partly attributable to the Broncos playing more so against the pass basically the entire 2nd half, and partly because his receivers (AJ, Armstrong) had a few drops, regardless of the difficulty of the catch. When you're getting sacked, having batted balls and the like, you'd atleast like your receivers to go make some big plays for you. He also just didn't have the accuracy he needed on some throws.

- Wells would have had a terrible day on ST despite the fact he returned the blocked punt.

- Babin had some nice hurries, Robinson showed exactly how fearless of a hitter he really is *thud*, and Peek put his explosiveness on showcase.

- The Broncos just plain beat us in every phase of the game. Their offense outperformed our defense, their defense outperformed our offense, we were outcoached (see: Capers, Palmer, or whoever calling the QB sneak, and then wasting a challenge on a spot that was accurate and not overturnable due to lack of evidence to prove otherwise), and the Broncs just seemed to have better field position.

- We're still a competitor for the division. We have enough talent to be better than a .500 team right now, IMO. As has been stated a zillion times we just need to develop consistency and a solid gameplan for each opponent we face. Easier said than done, but regardless, I think if we can pull ourselves back together for the next couple games we'll be a serious contender for the division.

TexansTrueFan 11-07-2004 08:40 PM

yeah,,,we still got a shot to take the division,,Jacksonville looks to be in trouble and the colts are nearly in the same position as us !! Its not over yet

wags 11-07-2004 08:44 PM

I'm assuming that Brown was benched in favor of Earl. I thought Earl played well in the second half, especially against the run. Brown can ride the pine as far as I'm concerned.

JustBonee 11-07-2004 08:47 PM

Broncos game thoughts? .. A noon game at a lower elevation might have worked out better.
They were totally out of sync, whatever the reason.

TexansTrueFan 11-07-2004 09:04 PM

maybe they were getting over confident after the jags game,,,,, people said we lost last year cause we were over confident so maybe since we've started winning we really are !!! idonno:

Ibar_Harry 11-07-2004 09:09 PM

We have seen some very bad play calling in the last several games even though we won. I will go back to last week and mention the 3rd and 1 on the 2. They tried to pass. You run on that play and that's all there is too it. Today your team is scored against with less than two minutes on the clock and you are in disarray and you try 3 passes deep in your own territory and run no time off of the clock. That roughly two minute period before the half was the ball game despite how badly we played. If you look back over the Huston record you will see that that has occurred in the past on more than one occasion. Again as people mention, late in the 3rd you might as well run the ball or pass it when you are down that far rather than punt. That I could tolerate as they just wanted to get out of Denver without having a worse score. They had given up at that point. Some of you will be all over me, because you think I'm pass, pass, pass. However, what you are not understanding is that this coaching staff is terrible from an offensive point of view. To me its like they have no concept of what one should do when they have the ball. They really do the opposite of what they should on a lot of occasions. We have won despite their ineptness. Did the players play badly and they should have their *********ts kicked, but the coaches need theirs kicked to. They were flat ****** outcoached today.

TexansTrueFan 11-07-2004 09:19 PM

and outplayed !!!

Speedy 11-07-2004 10:21 PM

4 TD scoring drives of more than 65 yards, 3 of them 80 or more. You gotta make some stops.

TexansTrueFan 11-07-2004 10:25 PM

yeah they played bad and i was thinking the D was finally coming around i mean they have looked so good the last 2 weeks,,,what happened just a total break down !!! Werent playing smart ,and focused to much on Rod Smith and than didnt focus enough on him and he beat us !! it was horrible job by our secondary !

texansfan88 11-07-2004 10:30 PM

every team has days like this...its not just us...if we lose next week...some of you are going to go crazy i think, even tho indy is another great team

TexansTrueFan 11-07-2004 10:35 PM

yeah it sucks but we'll lose a few and win a few !! as long as we have a better record than the cardnals at the end idonno:

SC23 11-07-2004 11:43 PM

I totally agree with you Blockhead.. we were "Schooled" today in every way. I really thought we were better than the whipping we got today.

phan1 11-08-2004 12:09 AM

Yeah, it's hard to know what the heck happened when your being dominated. I mean, where do you want to start? The run defense? The pass protection? We just got pounded today. It's just kinda sucks because we haven't blown out like this since early last season.

dalemurphy 11-08-2004 08:18 AM

Glenn Earl looked very good.
Babin was very good.
Gaffney was good.
It's also quite encouraging that when Carr has an off day, he completed almost 60%, 250 yards, and no interceptions.

Also, the Broncos didn't earn a scoring drive until their third touchdown:

1. horrible interference call against Glenn
2. gift from Texans going for it on 4th down at midfield
3. totally bogus roughing the passer call against Deloach.

remove those and add the field goal miss in the first half and things could have been quite different. the team still played poorly and got their butts whipped, but that often happens to teams on the road when a series of breaks go against them.

brickmantexanfan 11-08-2004 08:24 AM

ummm,we got our butts kicked

dan7 11-08-2004 08:32 AM

Long Term Perspective
Look at it this way....it could be a whole lot worse. I'm glad the Texans aren't in the AFC West; then they would have to play in Denver at least once every year. :thumbdown .

WWJD 11-08-2004 08:34 AM

Not a good day at the office.

JustBonee 11-08-2004 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by dalemurphy
1. horrible interference call against Glenn

3. totally bogus roughing the passer call against Deloach..

Are complaints about things like that turned into the league? .. for the sole purpose of getting bad marks against those refs, so that they won't be officiating in any championship playoff games.

infantrycak 11-08-2004 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by SassyTexan
Are complaints about things like that turned into the league? .. for the sole purpose of getting bad marks against those refs, so that they won't be officiating in any championship playoff games.

Most teams send in a tape of plays they think were wrongly decided each week. The plays are reviewed and the team is given feedback on whether the plays were correctly called. Some of the time the results of those reviews will sneak out to the press and fans will hear what should have happened.

Blake 11-08-2004 11:07 AM

I think the blame lies on the Defense this game. We both had plenty of 1st downs. We both had 300 plus yards of offense. But where I see the game being lost is with these stats.

Penalties-Yards: Texans 9-109 Broncos 4-50

Rushing Texans 2 Broncos 0
Passing Texans 0 Broncos 4

Net Yards Passing 228 225
Comp.-Att. Texans 22-41 Broncos 16-24

***The broncos had 225 passing yards on 16 completions. And 4 went for Touchdowns. Which means poor coverage, and bad tackling.

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