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Silver Oak 08-18-2007 08:34 AM

nice start
 
If last nights game with the Pats was any indicator of how the season will go for vince "I'll slap you" young, it's going to be a long painful one for him.

5/17/102 passing...well, thats about right on with last season actually, but the blindside hit from Harrison? That thing belongs on "You Got Jacked Up!" on ESPN! Then, trying to be a great "leader", he tried to score on a run play and got stuffed at the goal line with his head ending up about 3' below the Gillete Stadium turf.

Good stuff and I can't wait for it to show up on YouTube!

BattleRedToro 08-18-2007 10:19 AM

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There is no need to go to YouTube. Just go to NFL.com they have the video there. I saw it and loved every minute of it. I can't wait to see how the Texans D-Line performs against them this year.

HoustonFrog 08-18-2007 10:33 AM

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Of course Brady got beat around too and threw two interceptions so I guess he'll have a long season too. Just saying. :) Little too early for speculation.

hadaad 08-18-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog (Post 712512)
Of course Brady got beat around too and threw two interceptions so I guess he'll have a long season too. Just saying. :) Little too early for speculation.

How dare you inject that kind of reality into this discussion?! In what way does that deride the Titans or Vince Young? That kind of perspective has no place on this board. :)

Silver Oak 08-18-2007 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog (Post 712512)
Of course Brady got beat around too and threw two interceptions so I guess he'll have a long season too. Just saying. :) Little too early for speculation.

enjoyed the vince beat downs more though. :splits:

watching brady get pressured causes me concern for his fantasy value. if the titans can get to him, maybe he won't be quite as valuable as I had thought.

did I mention how much I enjoyed watching vince get beat down?

real 08-18-2007 01:58 PM

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Yeah VY looked to have a rough go at it yesterday...

Hopefully he'll look the same against us....

HoustonFrog 08-18-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Oak (Post 712612)
enjoyed the vince beat downs more though. :splits:

watching brady get pressured causes me concern for his fantasy value. if the titans can get to him, maybe he won't be quite as valuable as I had thought.

did I mention how much I enjoyed watching vince get beat down?

I wouldn't worry about it. I think he will still put up monster numbers and I really don't think they have their running game going yet with Maroney out. Hopefully he will get healthy.

Vinny 08-18-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog (Post 712512)
Of course Brady got beat around too and threw two interceptions so I guess he'll have a long season too. Just saying. :) Little too early for speculation.

yeah...it was a rainstorm....I saw the game too and thought Young looked pretty good despite the dropped passes and the penalties that killed some of his first down completions.....but I guess it helps to watch the game instead of scan the stat line. Him getting up after Harrison rang his bell was impressive....he got hammered

Noblesse Oblige 08-18-2007 02:20 PM

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It wasn't a good game at all for him, but let's not get ahead of ourselves--it was his first action this season.

It was great to see that goal line stuff though.

Silver Oak 08-18-2007 02:56 PM

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since I'm a rubbernecker at the scene of an accident, I've looked in on the titans board and the majority of posters who saw the game live, are slagging on vinces accuracy. Think I also read that Collins and their other backup didn't get sacked like vince did.


anyway, it's just preseason, but I'll stay optimistic that they keep letting him get hit like that.

Go Texans!

:fans:

Vinny 08-18-2007 03:03 PM

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well it looked like a first preseason game for him...I read all the stuff here and expected to see worse...but I watched the game and it wasn't as bad as portrayed...kinda like it always is.

mexican_texan 08-18-2007 03:39 PM

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He showed that Texas blood when he got up right after getting jacked up. You knew he was going to do something right after he got up, too. I'm sure his O-line got roughed up by VY himself.

Second Honeymoon 08-18-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 712657)
well it looked like a first preseason game for him...I read all the stuff here and expected to see worse...but I watched the game and it wasn't as bad as portrayed...kinda like it always is.

yeah. he was definitely rusty and still isn't the most accurate passer in the game, but that isn't exactly news. it was a first game but he did get a whole half to play through and really never got on track. he will probably look better the remainder of the preseason but he definitely looked pretty mortal.

teams are now going to gameplan on him more and have one or even two spys on him and just let him have man to man coverage on the outside (his weakness throwing wise). this will help against his scrambling, preventing big plays by the RB or VY, and could result in a lot of interceptions over the middle when he tries to force it. there were a few throws last night that could have easily been picked off.

at the end of the day you don't bet against VY overcoming all this and getting things right by Week One. the problem is that the rest of the team is just pretty much awful outside of their DL. can he overcome that? only time will tell.

*drinks beer* here is to hoping that he has a bad year and we can whoop up on them 2 times this year. payback is a b*tch.

TheDrifter 08-18-2007 03:58 PM

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While I dont put a whole lot of stock in preseason....

What that struck me, was how each QB handled a poor start. Vince seemed to let the adversity throw him a bit and never really settled back into his game. Brady came back out winging it and moving the ball like a pro.

And sure, that comes with experience and confidence, but it does make me wonder about Youngs ability to salvage much of a season with the roster around him, because he is certainly going to be seeing his share of adversity and uphill battles this year.

BigTimeTexanFan 08-18-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog (Post 712512)
Of course Brady got beat around too and threw two interceptions so I guess he'll have a long season too. Just saying. :) Little too early for speculation.

Unless your name is Mario Williams

The Dream 08-18-2007 04:34 PM

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well it looked like a first preseason game for him...I read all the stuff here and expected to see worse...but I watched the game and it wasn't as bad as portrayed...kinda like it always is.
as expected.............you VY haters are so funny....it's like you guys are buzzards waiting for anything to go wrong with Vince...you make yourselves look pathetic (and you'll know who you are)

HoustonFrog 08-18-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTimeTexanFan (Post 712713)
Unless your name is Mario Williams

The difference here is what someone did the year before compared to one pre-season game. But I have also said the same about Mario's first pre-season game. I think that worry comes from his college scouting..that he took off plays and didn't have a motor. People are getting a little nervous is all. I'll withhold judgement.

Blazing Arrow 08-18-2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRedToro (Post 712502)
There is no need to go to YouTube. Just go to NFL.com they have the video there. I saw it and loved every minute of it. I can't wait to see how the Texans D-Line performs against them this year.

175 rushing yards agains. 0 sacks, 2 hurries, 5 Broken tackles?

:d:

Blazing Arrow 08-18-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 712630)
yeah...it was a rainstorm....I saw the game too and thought Young looked pretty good despite the dropped passes and the penalties that killed some of his first down completions.....but I guess it helps to watch the game instead of scan the stat line. Him getting up after Harrison rang his bell was impressive....he got hammered

In regular season I think he takes his head off. :wild:

Double Barrel 08-19-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRedToro (Post 712502)
There is no need to go to YouTube. Just go to NFL.com they have the video there. I saw it and loved every minute of it. I can't wait to see how the Texans D-Line performs against them this year.

I can wait. Our defensive line looks like Swiss cheese on the running game, and they seem to dance a lot with offensive linemen on passing plays. I'd say this is, by far, the weakest squad on our team in spite of four first round picks.

VY will raise his game against the Texans, regardless of what kind of season the Titans might be having at the time. It is a fun rivalry to watch, but I'm never going to underestimate the kid. He's got the heart of a competitor, and combined with a chip on his shoulder, he'll be a thorn in our side during even our good seasons (whenever that might be).


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