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OzzO 07-21-2007 11:00 AM

Guess Mac really wanted VY
 
I just noticed on my tickets there is no longer Gallery Furniture gate, it's now Amegy Bank gate. (maybe I'm a little late with this knowledge) but I found it humorous.

By golly, if I take out 2 full page ads for a player and you don't take him - I'm taking my money elsewhere. Do you know who I AM?!?!?!? </Jimmy Mac voice>

BattleRedToro 07-21-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzO (Post 695031)
I just noticed on my tickets there is no longer Gallery Furniture gate, it's now Amegy Bank gate. (maybe I'm a little late with this knowledge) but I found it humorous.

By golly, if I take out 2 full page ads for a player and you don't take him - I'm taking my money elsewhere. Do you know who I AM?!?!?!? </Jimmy Mac voice>

This is the beauty of the free market system. He can now take his money and advertise with University of Texas or however he prefers and Amegy Bank is more than happy to take his place, advertising with the Texans. He was a fool to make his thinly veiled threats of taking his advertising elsewhere if the Texans didn't take Vince Young, as if the Texans would suffer without him.

Hey, note to Mattress Mac, this is the NFL, not Houston Wrestling or the Westside Tennis Club. Your money is chump change to the NFL.

:texflag:

TEXANSTAILGATER 07-21-2007 11:18 AM

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I did hear Mattress Wac whine about being stuck for another 2 (or 3) years.

Way to go Mr. McNair. Gave him his chump change back and told him to "Have a nice day!"

I like it.

Vinny 07-21-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzO (Post 695031)
I just noticed on my tickets there is no longer Gallery Furniture gate, it's now Amegy Bank gate. (maybe I'm a little late with this knowledge) but I found it humorous.

By golly, if I take out 2 full page ads for a player and you don't take him - I'm taking my money elsewhere. Do you know who I AM?!?!?!? </Jimmy Mac voice>

That's how the free market is supposed to work. You put your money in things you want to support.

Double Barrel 07-21-2007 01:32 PM

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yep, in a free market economy, businesses can decide where to advertise that will benefit them the most. Maybe he pulled his dollars from the Texans because Texans fans haven't been shopping at his store? It could always be market forces, and I know a few people that no longer shop there because of perceived slights towards the team. Some folks bear grudges, which can go both ways.

TxDavid 07-21-2007 01:44 PM

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That's not the only one.....

The Miller Lite Gate is now the Comcast gate.

HJam72 07-21-2007 01:53 PM

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Yeah, and the David Carr jersey is now the Matt Schaub jersey....doh! :gun:

Speedy 07-21-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TxDavid (Post 695096)
That's not the only one.....

The Miller Lite Gate is now the Comcast gate.

But the parking lots are now called the Miller Lite Parking lots, the Miller Lite Yellow Lot, Miller Lite Orange Lot and so on.

Miller Lite is still backing the Texans.

As for Mac, he can load up the moving vans and take his business to 6006 I-65 north between Trinity and Ewing for all I care.

Double Barrel 07-21-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HJam72 (Post 695100)
Yeah, and the David Carr jersey is now the Matt Schaub jersey....doh! :gun:

heh, someone could cash in by selling Schaub name patches to be sewn on their number 8 jerseys. People have asked me what they should do with their YKW jerseys, and I tell them to wear them! Never be ashamed of a player that was on our team (unless he's a convicted felon). I never fault people for wearing Boselli jerseys, either.

Big deal, they're still Texans fans! :fans:

whiskeyrbl 07-21-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HJam72 (Post 695100)
Yeah, and the David Carr jersey is now the Matt Schaub jersey....doh! :gun:

LOL funny sh1t, rep coming your way.

nunusguy 07-21-2007 04:39 PM

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I don't give a damn where Mac spends his advertising dollars, but I sure wish McNair would have taken his advice about last years Draft.

Second Honeymoon 07-21-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 695156)
I don't give a damn where Mac spends his advertising dollars, but I sure wish McNair would have taken his advice about last years Draft.


QFT Quoted For Truth

If I was Mac, I would probably feel the same way. The stars aligned and McNair blew it. Mac does a lot of good stuff for this city, he gets a pass for pulling out his sponsorship imho.

powerfuldragon 07-21-2007 05:12 PM

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good riddance.

HJam72 07-21-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 695133)
heh, someone could cash in by selling Schaub name patches to be sewn on their number 8 jerseys. People have asked me what they should do with their YKW jerseys, and I tell them to wear them! Never be ashamed of a player that was on our team (unless he's a convicted felon). I never fault people for wearing Boselli jerseys, either.

Big deal, they're still Texans fans! :fans:

Good idea. :shades:

the wonger need food 07-21-2007 09:26 PM

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Boo hoooo for Mattress Mac. He's the biggest VY titty-baby in this town. Maybe he'll move his business to Tennessee to be with the object of his man-crush.

brakos82 07-21-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 695133)
heh, someone could cash in by selling Schaub name patches to be sewn on their number 8 jerseys.

You should do that.
Quote:

Never be ashamed of a player that was on our team (unless he's a convicted felon).
So what are the Bangals fans supposed to do?:shades:

Texans_Chick 07-21-2007 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon (Post 695161)
QFT Quoted For Truth

If I was Mac, I would probably feel the same way. The stars aligned and McNair blew it. Mac does a lot of good stuff for this city, he gets a pass for pulling out his sponsorship imho.

Oh pul-eeze.

Mac did his full page ad supporting VY the day before the draft. By that time, it was way to late to do anything other than being an attention ho.

The 2006 draft was a product of horrible timing and a GM who was reluctant to seriously consider unconventional players or to give up on DC.

Vince declares in January. He hires an inexperienced family friend to be his agent. Someone with no negotiating track record and someone inexperienced with shepherding someone through the draft process. The sort of agent who in the agent scheme of things is one step above Master P. His agent immediately mishandled various PR matters relating to VY. Some things football related and some things not so much.

An experienced agent, someone like a Leigh Steinberg might have made the case in JANUARY to the Texans that VY by any measure should be the first pick in the draft and as worth giving up on Carr, retraining a QB, AND foregoing the opportunity cost of not picking Bush. To take VY would have been a significantly unconventional football move based on the information that existed at the time. (The belief that Carr was an athletic QB that could be coached up if he had actual decent coaching).

Carr's option had to be picked up in March. If the Texans dumped him then, they get nothing and have no quarterbacks. (Sage was signed in mid March) If they go that route, they are basically held hostage to VY and his agent with no track record. Because as unhappy as Texans fans were last year passing VY/Bush, they would have burnt down Reliant if the Texans went QB and didn't pick VY. Or picked Bush and relied on Rosenfels. Whoever was going to end up as the QB of the Texans not named VY wasn't going to get a fair shake from fans, and this is an effect that the Texans underestimated. Of the non-VY quarterbacks, Carr was the conventional choice based on at least the promise of early 2004.

I own three "Draft Vince" shirts. I put them away after Carr's contract was picked up because it would make no sense to take VY at that point.

The Bush non-pick was also a result of some terrible timing too. (All the NCAA violation payment stuff hitting the fan right before the draft and not really realizing the seriousness of Dominick DW's knee or that Mathis was going to be out all season).

All this Vick stuff illustrates the perils of off-field stuff to your salary cap. Federal prosecutions are all about discretion. The Feds are still investigating various aspects of the Reggie Bush payment stuff. (sorta like the feds investigated that NBA ref thing for a long time before it just recently came out). If the feds have Bush on tape admitting to taking payments, it is not much of a stretch to bust someone for not paying income taxes. The Texans claim that money was not the issue, and off-field stuff was not the issue, but I can't imagine those things helped up much.

A lot of people thought San Diego was stupid when they passed up Vick. Now, not so much. Funny how time changes perceptions.

(I also think that Bush would be a Houston Texan if his agent had done a better job. Bush's pre-draft posturing that he was excited about being the first pick [but rarely saying that he was excited to come to Houston though he expressed a lot of excitement about being in New York] didn't help his stock here.)

Neither here nor there. It would be interesting seeing an alternative history where either Vince or Reggie is drafted. I can see a million different histories, some good, some not so good, and the answer is that once choices are made, you never know what would have happened in the alternative histories.

Texans_Chick 07-21-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the wonger need food (Post 695187)
Boo hoooo for Mattress Mac. He's the biggest VY titty-baby in this town. Maybe he'll move his business to Tennessee to be with the object of his man-crush.

He sat behind me during the Texans-Titans game. He sat with VY's mom.

Specnatz 07-22-2007 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick (Post 695211)
Oh pul-eeze.

Mac did his full page ad supporting VY the day before the draft. By that time, it was way to late to do anything other than being an attention ho.

I would rep you if it allowd me to.



:texflag: :texans chick:


History is a funny thing, people love to rewrite it and forget about all the facts of what happened.

brakos82 07-22-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Specnatz (Post 695222)
I would rep you if it allowd me to.

I did for you.:shades:


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