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shinerbock_texas 11-03-2004 01:06 PM

Maurice Clarett
 
I am sure this topic has been duscussed before but does anyone have the slightest idea as to what happened with Maurice Claurret (sp)? WIll he get drafted next year? Will he be completely the biggest waste of oxygen on the planet? Or was he the man child who wasted the most talent ever.

V Man 11-03-2004 01:13 PM

I'm guessing early day 2, maybe late day 1. It won't suprise me to see the cowboys draft him. The tuna likes a big back, and JJ loves the pub. (seems like a perfect fit)

Blake 11-03-2004 01:28 PM

Would be a top 20 pick had he stayed in school. Now he is a round 3 flyer. Look for him to latch on to a team with a hurting run game, like The fins, or Arizona.

Andre_Johnson80 11-05-2004 12:00 PM

I can't stand MC

shinerbock_texas 11-09-2004 12:42 PM

Maurice Clarett says he received improper benefits during his time at Ohio State.
 
Ending six months of silence, former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett has told ESPN The Magazine in this week's edition that he "took the fall" for the school during a 2003 NCAA investigation and that he's talking now because he wants to "clear his name" with National Football League owners and general managers.

Clarett says that while he was at Ohio State in 2002 and 2003 head coach Jim Tressel, as well as certain members of his staff and boosters, provided him with improper benefits. He says he covered up Tressel's improprieties during the NCAA investigation and afterward, Ohio State "blackballed'' him from the football program.

According to Clarett, Tressel arranged loaner cars for him and Tressel's brother, Dick, found him lucrative landscaping jobs that he did not even have to show up for. He says members of Tressel's staff also introduced him to boosters who'd slip him thousands of dollars, and the better he played, the more cash he'd receive. He says boosters eventually began inviting him into their homes or would meet him out in the community.

"When you'd leave, [the booster] sets you straight," Clarett told The Magazine. "They say, 'You got any money in your pocket?' They make sure your money's straight."

Clarett also says he likely would have been ineligible for Ohio State's national title season of 2002 if the football staff had not "aligned'' him with an academic advisor whose goal was simply to keep him eligible. He says the academic advisor enrolled him in Independent Study courses and also put him with hand-picked teachers who would pass him whether he attended their classes or not. He says his advisor also introduced him to a tutor who prepared outlines and told him what to write for assignments.

Another former Ohio State player, linebacker Marco Cooper (2000-01; Spring 2002), corroborated many of Clarett's comments. Cooper, who was suspended from the team following two arrests for drug possession, says he also had bogus landscaping jobs, that a booster helped furnish his apartment, and that he was able to borrow cars from local Columbus dealerships in exchange for signed OSU memorabilia.

Another former Buckeyes player, current Maryland running back Sammy Maldonado, says he was placed in so many courses that did not put him on the road to graduation that only 17 of a possible 40 credits earned would transfer to his new school.

Ohio State officials have declined to comment on many of the allegations. School President Karen Holbrook, Jim Tressel and Dick Tressel refused to respond through spokespersons, while Athletic Director Andy Geiger said he would not answer questions until after the magazine story appeared, if then.

Maurice Clarett says he received improper benefits during his time at Ohio State.

"We went through a yearlong investigation of our academic programs, everything that [Clarett] has to allege,'' Geiger said. "He vowed to me that he would do something to try to get us and this may be what he's trying to do. So he's on his own.

"We dealt with this guy [Clarett] for 18 months. I just hope you've checked into the background and history of who you're dealing with.''

Clarett's former academic advisor and tutor also declined comment. The NCAA, which investigated Clarett for potential academic and financial irregularities in the summer of 2003, said it is against its policy to discuss the Clarett case.

Clarett, 21, who gained 1,237 yards and scored 18 touchdowns in 2002, his only collegiate season, says he was asked during the 2003 NCAA investigation whether he received a loaner car from Tressel, and, to protect the coach, he says, he answered no. He says when he was asked about other indiscretions, he answered, "I don't know" or "I don't remember," which was a violation of NCAA Rule 10.1, requiring forthright answers.

"What would have become of Ohio State if I said everything?'' Clarett told The Magazine. "Half the team would have been suspended, and it would have been worse for everybody. I was like, 'Why don't I just take it?'"

The school suspended him for the entire 2003 season, and when Clarett asked to be reinstated for 2004, he says the athletic department systematically "blackballed him" by taking away the teachers and tutors.

Clarett then tried applying for the 2004 NFL Draft, and was first ruled eligible and then ineligible, because he wasn't the requisite three years removed from high school. He says he was "depressed" by the court's ultimate decision to ban him, but is now working out in anticipation of the 2005 draft in April. He says he is hoping this winter to play in this winter's East-West Shrine game and the Senior Bowl, all-star invitationals that would be his first football games in two years.

Several pro executives say, as of now, the running back could go as low as the fourth or fifth round. Clarett contends he will change any negative perceptions at the NFL combine in February.

"I'm thinking, 'NFL GMs know college players take money,' " Clarett says. "It was nothing like I stole something. Nothing like I'm running from the law or I'm dragging a girl down the stairs. No domestic violence. No nothing. [But] I got to clear myself up now, because it's affecting the minds of the GMs."

wags 11-09-2004 01:03 PM

Does he seriously think this will help his draft stock?

JustBonee 11-09-2004 01:06 PM

Trouble follows this headcase around. Good Luck to whoever decides to take a chance with him.

William 11-09-2004 01:27 PM

Heres a little more reading to go along with what was posted above by shinerbock texas:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059

dan7 11-09-2004 01:54 PM

Allegations at "The" Ohio State University
 
Sounds like pretty sordid stuff was going on at OSU....but I still find it difficult to believe MC. Now if he had caught all these financial improprieties on videotape, then there would be a really big story. :shocked

P.S. I'm a little bit biased against OSU in that I'm a Pennsylvania native (Pittsburgh).

jgl35 11-09-2004 06:45 PM

Ok, let's see. A loaner car for free, A job you don't have to show up for, money any time you need it, a tutor to do school work for classes you do not have to attend but still pass, lie to the NCAA. All OSU's fault being blackballed, and everybody does it, so it's ok. "It was nothing like I stole something" How about the scholarship that could have gone to a kid who would go to school and learn something. My guess on the NFL, free agent if anybody calls after the draft.

axman40 11-09-2004 09:06 PM

The NFL is a business,can MC play in the NFL?Yes I think he can and will be drafted late 1st or early 2nd.
:BananaWav

wags 11-09-2004 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axman40
and will be drafted late 1st or early 2nd.
:BananaWav

No chance.

TexansTrueFan 11-09-2004 10:09 PM

u kidding i wouldnt draft the kid if he payed ME money ! He gets what he deserves !

LiveForTheGame 11-09-2004 10:52 PM

I'm not saying him accepting everything was right, but I am saying he does make a case for himself if he is at last telling the truth. In my oppinion it does help his draft stock. However, only in the aspect that people see he wasn't asking for any of it or pressuring for it to happen...it was offered so he took it as wrong as it is.

If he really is working out like he says he is, I hope he shows up at the combine in great shape and running like he did when he played. It shows how much he wants it and how hard he is willing to work to get some credibility back. (I saw a picture of him at the interview and wondered if he looked like he'd lost a little weight since he is trying to get down to 5% and below body fat).

He has made some big mistakes and is being childish in blaming it all on OSU...but it does take a little of the guilt and negativity of his character off of himself.

Blake 11-11-2004 11:40 AM

I think this whole debacle could have been avoided. I think a player should be able to apply for the NFL draft at the age of 18. I hate to use the same reason but,

You can go to WAR at age 18. F-ing WAR. Age 18.

Besides this isnt the NBA. You can go straight to the NBA and make an impact with pure skill. But not in the NFL. You need skill/knowledge/experience, to make an impact.

Kids will still go to College for a couple of years. Make a name for themselves, and then get drafted.

So let MC go to the draft, and see what team wants to spend a draft pick on him. My gut says teams wont take a chance on him until the 4th round.

Lucky 11-12-2004 10:07 AM

After reading this ESPN piece on Clarett, who else thinks the anonymous GM might very well be Texan GM Charley Casserly?


Quote:

The lawsuit [against the NFL] in itself, that wouldn't bother me. What bothers me is the guy thinking he's good enough to play when he's got all these other issues. And here's the thing on the injury-prone. This guy, I don't think, has ever played a full season in high school or college without missing time. So here's a guy, durability's a question on him. Work ethic is a question on the guy. So those are two big questions.
Personally, I thought Clarett was an outstanding player as a freshman at OSU. He could run inside, break it outside, catch, block. Does anyone remember Clarett running down Sean Tayor on an interception in the BCS championship? Just a very solid, all around RB. But, not everyone belongs in college, and I think Clarett proved that to be true. I may be wrong, but I still think Clarett has a chance to be a very good NFL player.

wags 11-12-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky
After reading this ESPN piece on Clarett, who else thinks the anonymous GM might very well be Texan GM Charley Casserly?

I think ESPN said it was the Colt's GM.

Vinny 11-12-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky
After reading this ESPN piece on Clarett, who else thinks the anonymous GM might very well be Texan GM Charley Casserly?

Casserly just said those same words this morning also. Almost verbatim.

texasguy346 11-12-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky
Personally, I thought Clarett was an outstanding player as a freshman at OSU. He could run inside, break it outside, catch, block. Does anyone remember Clarett running down Sean Tayor on an interception in the BCS championship? Just a very solid, all around RB. But, not everyone belongs in college, and I think Clarett proved that to be true. I may be wrong, but I still think Clarett has a chance to be a very good NFL player.

I think he's got a chance to be a pretty good RB in the NFL too, and as far as being a 'head case' that could very well describe lots of players in the NFL. If someone can get him with a late 3rd or early 4th round pick it would be a steal. I think most GMs are more comfortable drafting a player if they've got more tape on him, and a better feel for his character. Clarrett doesn't have the luxury of having an abundance of game tape, and his character isn't looking too good right now either. Combine all that with the number of good young running backs that are in the draft, and he could end up a 2nd day pick. I'd expect him to have a very good combine since he'll have plenty of time to prepare for it, and that should make his stock rise a little bit.

ArlingtonTexan 11-12-2004 05:20 PM

We all know that somebody will take a flyer on this guy...i would not touch before the 4th round. If that talented guy is sitting there in the middle of 5th round even with his baggage that's the point where I say to myself he is more physically talented than anyone else available. That 5th round pick has about 1 in 4 or 5 chance of making the roster more than a year or two and if clarrett is anything but a model citizen he is gone with minimal downside risk.


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