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utshawn 10-20-2004 09:29 PM

Jonathan Wells or Domanick Davis
 
Any info on who is going to start?

Last I heard was Davis had a deep thigh bruise but haven't found any other info. I think Wells has performed pretty dang good and the Texans don't really lose anything when he is in.

TIA,

Just a fan of the game

TexansTrueFan 10-20-2004 09:33 PM

Well i'm sure Davis will start,,,,, this bye week is perfect to get him and EVERYBODY else healthy. Davis is still a good back he just never got completely healthy after the kansas city game ! If we used him while he still wasnt a 100% i'm sure we'll use him against the Jags when he is !! He'll get the start !

Fiddy 10-20-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan
Davis is still a good back he just never got completely healthy after the kansas city game !

No running back in this league is 100% healthy so Davis needs to learn how to play with all those nagging injuries...

texan279 10-20-2004 09:41 PM

Or we could start Wells until he screws up royally and then put Davis in.

TexansTrueFan 10-20-2004 09:42 PM

come on man this guy is only making a couple million a year give the guy a break !!! Well let him get 100% healthy and see what he can do or if he just dont have it anymore,,,not like we have a choice anyways this is or bye week so he'll and the rest of the team will get healthy !

texan279 10-20-2004 09:42 PM

Ummmm...who's making a couple of million a year? Not Davis.

aj. 10-20-2004 10:07 PM

He's on schedule to make about 1.2 in three years.

4th rounder, remember?

Jwwillis 10-20-2004 10:14 PM

Its good the have the debth so that either would be ok. I think the Texans need both RB's healthy. Wells and Davis offer contrasting styles that can keep a defense off balance. I really thought Hollings was going to make an impact this year but he also had nagging injuries. Qhen Davis is on he is the Texans best option. If Carr can learn to quit depending on him with the dump off this offense could do serious damage. Hopefully the last few games has tought Carr that he can take chances down field even thought DD is open on the 5 yrd dump off.

DominatorDavis 10-20-2004 10:54 PM

Davis is the better back. I think that after his fumbles early in the season and then being dinged up - his confidence is rattled. Wells is a little slow and does too much dancing in the hole. It is a bit aggravating. I think that both right now are not setting the world on fire and that the coaching staff would like to have one of the two (if not both) play better. Make it easier on Carr and Co. to open up the play-action and the mid/long-ranged passing game.

We will take a high running back in next years draft to remedy the run game.

Any word on Tony Hollings?

texan279 10-20-2004 11:12 PM

You say Davis is the better back? Davis has 233 yards on 80 carries for an average of 2.9 yards per carry with 3 TD's and 4 fumbles. Wells has 218 yards on 59 carries for an average of 3.7 yards per carry with 2 TD's and 1 fumble. IMO we should leave Wells in there until he royally screws up. Seems like Davis is either having problems with injuries or putting the ball on the ground. I am beginning to wonder if he was a one hit wonder.

texan279 10-21-2004 01:06 AM

Wells vs. Davis
 
Ok, I know I will catch hell for this post, but it's just my opinion. IMO I think we should start Wells for awhile. Davis has 233 yards on 80 carries for an average of 2.9 yards per carry with 3 TD's and 4 fumbles. Wells has 218 yards on 59 carries for an average of 3.7 yards per carry with 2 TD's and 1 fumble. Also, when did our passing game really open up? After Davis was injured. IMO we should leave Wells in there until he royally screws up. Seems like Davis is either having problems with injuries or putting the ball on the ground, it seems like there is always something with him. I am beginning to wonder if he was a one hit wonder. And no, I am not a Davis hater, he is a member of this team just like the other 52 men and he contributes when he is healthy, I am just thinking about what is best for our team. Think about what our team has done since Davis was injured. Just wondering what you guys thoughts on this are.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS 10-21-2004 01:49 AM

You're kidding yourself if you think Wells is a better back than Davis, and even I don't think Davis has what it takes to be a workhorse.

texan279 10-21-2004 01:58 AM

I never said Wells was a better back. I am just saying keep Wells in until he screws up royally. Who is putting up a better performance so far this season?

Week 1 vs. Chargers
Davis 21 rushes 87 yards 4.1 average 2 TD 2 fumbles

Week 2 vs. Lions
Davis 25 rushes 78 yards 3.1 average 0 TD 2 fumbles

Week 3 vs. Kansas City
Davis 10 rushes 12 yards 1.2 average
Wells 10 rushes 37 yards 3.7 average

Week 4 vs. Raiders
Wells 26 rushes 105 yards 4.0 average 1 TD

Week 5 vs. Vikings
Davis 14 rushes 31 yards 2.2 average 1 TD

Week 6 vs. Titans
Wells 22 rushes 73 yards 3.3 average 1 TD

wags 10-21-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DominatorDavis
We will take a high running back in next years draft to remedy the run game.

Won't he then fail a drug test and be suspended? :thankyou:

Tayton 10-21-2004 09:22 AM

Far too many variables to look at stats over 2 or three games and call Wells the better back. To me Wells will never be a starting caliber back in the NFL. The run blocking has come together over the last few games and have made holes that I could have run through. Wells still does not break near as many tackles as Davis. Don't know if it is because of the fumbles or the nagging injuries but Davis is not in very good form right now. If its the injuries then I am very concerned that he is just not very durable. He's missed alot of time over the last few years. If its the fumbles, then I think he will get over it and have a break out game soon.

Vinny 10-21-2004 12:51 PM

I'm not calling Wells Stephen Davis, but it took Davis 3-4 years to develop into a top NFL back and they are really the same kind of runner (same body type). To say Wells won't develop further is selling him a bit short. Personally, I am not sure Wells will develop any further but I'm not willing to say he won't. All I know is right now we have 3 backs and none of them have stepped up and clearly taken the starting job. I'm sure this will play itself out as the year unfolds. You never know, Hollings may get over his inuries and snag the job. Davis may overcome his problems. We'll see.

Quote:

Stephen Davis first 6 years

Year Team G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
1996 Washington Redskins 12 0 23 139 6.0 39 2 1 7
1997 Washington Redskins 14 6 141 567 4.0 18 3 0 31
1998 Washington Redskins 16 12 34 109 3.2 12 0 0 6
1999 Washington Redskins 14 14 290 1405 4.8 76 17 7 84
2000 Washington Redskins 15 15 332 1318 4.0 50 11 5 71
2001 Washington Redskins 16 16 356 1432 4.0 32 5 8 74
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1440

TexansTrueFan 10-21-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj.
He's on schedule to make about 1.2 in three years.

4th rounder, remember?


OK OK has noone here ever heard of sarcasim ?????? We talk about Davis or Wells and you just wanna talk about how much he makes ,,,i was just simply pointing out that he makes way mare than most people do with an easier job !

keyfro 10-21-2004 02:39 PM

i'm sorry to all the davis fans out there but Wells right now is the better back...the stats that texan279 prove it...davis to me was a one hit wonder...he had a really good rookie year but that's gonna be it...there are plenty of backs in the nfl that were the same way...while wells is not a long term answer either he is the answer for this season...we need to draft a runningback on the first day of the draft and hope for the best...but right now all signs point to us not having a franchise back

Vinny 10-21-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan
OK OK has noone here ever heard of sarcasim ?????? We talk about Davis or Wells and you just wanna talk about how much he makes ,,,i was just simply pointing out that he makes way mare than most people do with an easier job !

He was just correcting something that was not factual, and Dom doesn't make all that much money. Easier job? If you think being an NFL running back is so easy then how come we all don't do it?

Mike Malone 10-21-2004 02:56 PM

RB Quandry
 
I believe Jonathan Davis is the better choice in this game against this opponent. Although Davis is faster, he fumbles. The Texans must keep the Colts offense off of the field. A hard runner like Jonathan Wells is what is needed here. In addition, this will allow Davis one more week to heal and practice holding onto the football.


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