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jacquescas 10-10-2004 05:34 PM

Armstrong
 
How long until either Gaffney or Bradford lose their starting spot to armstrong? I see Bradford going first because he hasn't made that many plays and is a free agent at the end of the year.

Armstrong is taking Bradfords money with each game this year.

NoBullTexan 10-10-2004 05:42 PM

Don't think Gaffney has anything to worry about, but, yeah, I would think that Armstrong is singing Bradford's swan song with this team. :thumbup

Grid 10-10-2004 06:09 PM

with the catches he keeps making.. I wish they would put him in right now.

Bradford is fast.. but apparently not fast enough cause he had a few passes come today that he just couldnt get under.

Armstrong Gaffney and Johnson just sounds great... throw in Bradford in those 4 wide receiver formations to give us another downfield threat.

blockhead83 10-10-2004 06:11 PM

Armstrong was awesome today. He can pull in some really tough passes.

TheTim5125 10-10-2004 06:28 PM

Armstrong made some amazing catches and I'm really impressed how surehanded he is... great game despite the loss

JustBonee 10-10-2004 06:40 PM

What does he have to do to get more playing time? He's great out there!!
Armstrong and Starling both impressed me early on .. however Starling sits on the practice squad and I think it's a shame.
Talent being wasted.

Grid 10-10-2004 06:46 PM

Wouldnt be surprised to see Bradford gone next season.. with Johnson Gaffney and Armstrong starting.. and Starling taking the 4th WR spot.

Starling is pretty fast isnt he? seems like he could become our new Corey Bradford.

Bradford has been great for us.. but honestly there is something wrong.

look at the last two teams we have played.

The Raiders had Joey Porter.. who required extra attention.. and so because teams have to watch Porter so closely.. Ronald Curry is having a great season.

With the Vikings.. they have Randy Moss.. one of the greatest WRs ever to play. ANd because he requires alot of attention.. Marcus Robinson is having a great season.

now look at us.. Andre Johnson is probably THE BEST young WR in the NFL.. he requires extra attention.. and because of that, bradford is having a great season... no wait that isnt right.. Gaffney is having a great season.. nooo.. that isnt right either.

We have Johnson getting alot of attention.. what we dont have is another good receiver exploiting that. I think Armstrong could be that guy.

Fiddy 10-10-2004 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid
now look at us.. Andre Johnson is probably THE BEST young WR in the NFL.. he requires extra attention.. and because of that, bradford is having a great season... no wait that isnt right.. Gaffney is having a great season.. nooo.. that isnt right either.

Well, that is not Bradford's/Gaffney's fault, the reason they arent having big years is because Davis has taken about 20 receptions...

Grid 10-10-2004 07:15 PM

but the REASON davis has taken 20 receptions is because Carr is checking down to him.. Bradford and Gaffney arent getting open.

Gaffney I have no problem with.. I see him as the 3rd WR... and probably always will be. He is steady and reliable... he is the guy you can go to once you have everyone on the defense looking at your other weapons. But bradford needs to be a playmaker and he hasnt been.

Panther5407 10-10-2004 07:20 PM

I've been saying it and I'll say it again. Bradford will not be in Houston after this year. I have nothing against him but he is just not there, and the coming out of Armstrong, and Gaffney getting stronger in the pass games is fading him out.

Fiddy 10-10-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid
but the REASON davis has taken 20 receptions is because Carr is checking down to him.. Bradford and Gaffney arent getting open.

I dont think you can say that until you have seen all the game tape. On Davis' first dump off today Carr didnt spend 3 seconds into the backfield and waited for Davis to come out so he could throw it to him. I remember because I saw it the whole way. Carr didnt look to another WR, he waited for Davis...

beerlover 10-10-2004 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther5407
I've been saying it and I'll say it again. Bradford will not be in Houston after this year. I have nothing against him but he is just not there, and the coming out of Armstrong, and Gaffney getting stronger in the pass games is fading him out.

canidate for trade deadline? see thread & feel free to pile on Ragone :idea:

TexanBacker93 10-10-2004 08:30 PM

I don't think Bradford would bring much in a trade. Teams don't seem to be willing to part with much in the way of draft picks for older players. Heck, it's hard enough with young players. Henson gets a 3rd round pick. Dillon gets a 2nd rounder (looooow 2nd rounder). I think Bradford finishes the season in Houston and then will move on unless he takes a huge pay cut.

Armstrong is looking like he can become AJ's John Taylor or Mark Duper. I think he'll start seeing more playing time and more passes thrown his way. He's got serious hands.

cuppacoffee 10-10-2004 09:23 PM

Give Real Game Experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Panther5407
I've been saying it and I'll say it again. Bradford will not be in Houston after this year. I have nothing against him but he is just not there, and the coming out of Armstrong, and Gaffney getting stronger in the pass games is fading him out.

If we are truly on a five year program then I think that Starling or Thomas should be getting Bradfords playing time. We need to see what we have in these guys. Give one a look and if he doesn't cut it take a look at the other. Its pretty obvious that Bradford should not be in the five year plan. :twocents:

Texans Fan 10-10-2004 09:43 PM

I really took notice of Armstrong at the TB preseason game. He really impressed me and then all I heard was he does this all day in practice. I think that is just a matter of time until he has Bradford's spot. While Bradford is a deep threat, Armstrong seems so strong and sure handed. They will all get PT but Armstrongs plays should go up in my opinion.

Vinny 10-10-2004 09:49 PM

AJ and Armstrong both had 100 yard days. A Texan first.

I hope we see more of him earlier. Carr seems to have found a good rythm with him.

keyfro 10-10-2004 11:13 PM

i agree with bradford probably wanting number 2 money he isn't worth re-signing with the emergence of armstrong and gaffney...i see us drafting another reciever to groom or possibly just signing one during FA...i see bradford going to baltimore who is in drastic need of a speed reciever...but as of right now i hope bradford starts finding ways to get open and get more receptions for the rest of this season

cflfan 10-10-2004 11:53 PM

Im actually from Canada where Derrick Armstrong used to play in the CFL. He played for the Saskatchewan Roughriders. I had the chance to see him play several times. He was really great when he played for the Riders. Im really happy that he is doing well in Houston. Even though us Rider Fans would like to see him back in Regina. But we have an awesome reciveing core.

blockhead83 10-11-2004 12:01 AM

I think Gaffney has developed into a solid receiver. He's had good hands, good on the field awareness, and he's shown he's got some wheels. Now that Armstrong is out here in games doing the things he's been doing all along in practice, I think we have an excellent receiving corps. Bradford has been a disappointment to me so far, and I think he'll be gone next season. Maybe Starling can make some steps next off-season and move into the #4 spot.

LiveForTheGame 10-11-2004 12:11 AM

All a team really needs is a big time receiver and solid secondary receivers that can be consistent and productive when #1 can't get the ball. It doesn't matter who the are as long as the right ones are in. Armstrong is really improving. Bradford and Gaffney aren't bad either. We have a very good group of receivers. Young ones at that


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