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TexansCanes 10-08-2004 04:35 PM

Bcs
 
With this being “Showdown Saturday” and the BCS is about to come out, I thought we should start a little discussion about the rankings. I have been a fan of the BCS because it hasn’t screwed anyone out of the title yet, and by that I mean no undefeated team in a major conference has been left out of the title game. I think that that could change this year, I could see as many as three or four teams that could go unbeaten. I could be wrong, and probably will be but if you look at the schedules it could happen:

Big XII:
OU vs. TU is tomorrow and I think who ever wins should win out, they don’t play anyone else and the winner of the north shouldn’t have a chance to beat them in the title game.

SEC:
This is the one conference that might not have an unbeaten. Most likely Auburn and Georgia will have to play each other twice and I don’t think that one of them can beat the other one twice, but I could be wrong, LSU last year.

ACC:
I think they will have one unbeaten team, either Miami or Virginia, but they both tough games left. I don’t think any one will beat Miami just because their defense is so good, probably the best in the country, they do have a potential upset next Thursday against Louisville. If Virginia can get by FSU next weekend then that should set up a showdown with Miami Nov. 13.

Pac-10:
I think, no I know, who ever wins tomorrow will go undefeated. No one is left on either one of their schedules and should breeze to a no loss season after Saturday. Who will win I have no idea, but will be rooting for Cal. If USC does win then I want to see if they really will F the BCS and not accept the bid to the Orange Bowl. I know this would never happen but then that means the shirt was just BS.

Big 10:
Purdue is the only one left and if Kyle Orten continues on his terror then I could not only see him winning the Heisman but leading the Boilermakers to an undefeated season. They still have to play UM, Wisconsin, and OSU but they are all at home so they are very winnable.

Big East:
Thankfully West Virginia lost so we don’t have to worry about them any more, now they can take their undeserved BCS automatic bid.

Now after I post this, all of them will lose it won’t matter. If this does happen then if you count their will be three teams or more with only two spots for the game in Miami, and it is the year the BCS fails and I will finally join all you that want to have a playoff, even though I don’t see it happening.

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Huge 10-09-2004 09:49 AM

How did it not fail last year? You had three teams (Oklahoma, LSU and USC) that each had one loss. One of those teams (USC) ended up with half of the MNC and they didn't even play in the BCS game.

Having 3 or more teams finish with one loss is just as bad as having 3 or more finish undefeated.

The BCS is better than the previous system so I like it in that way. But it was a colossal failure last year. So until they come up with a playoff system (it's not impossible...just a matter of getting the NCAA to be willing to give up some $$$), we'll continue to have a champion that is decided by votes.

Mistril48 10-09-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Huge
How did it not fail last year? You had three teams (Oklahoma, LSU and USC) that each had one loss. One of those teams (USC) ended up with half of the MNC and they didn't even play in the BCS game.

In my opinion there was one National Champion. LSU. The problem last year was merely that one team, USC, agreed to take the much bigger money each year generated from the BCS system and then undermined the system when the time finally came for them to show their support. USC signed on for a system where a vote of a bunch of media types was only part of the formula and then proclaimed they were entitled to a share of the National Championship because they won the vote of the media types. USC should have proclaimed loud and far that LSU had fairly won the National Championship and thanked the BCS for generating so much additional money for the member schools programs. They then could have offered recommendations as to how to improve the BCS system in the future with their honor intact.

I have no respect for someone who takes the money year after year (remember that USC took part of their conferences big pay day year after year) and then tries to undermine the system.

Shame on Coach Carroll

Huge 10-09-2004 12:29 PM

Both halves of the MNC have been decided by the media and coaches for decades. Last season for USC was no different than Nebraska/Michigan, Colorado/Washington, etc. in years past when it was split.

USC is supposed to declare LSU the national champ when they (USC) weren't even afforded the opportunity to play them? Hardly.

But this is what happens when you have a MNC game that is decided by votes and formulas.

TexansCanes 10-09-2004 03:16 PM

the only thing that you can do is win the games that are on your schedule and USC didn't. once you lose a game your fate to left to the votersand the formula, who is to say that USC was better than OU or vice versa.

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USC is supposed to declare LSU the national champ when they (USC) weren't even afforded the opportunity to play them? Hardly.
if they are so mad then don't accept a bid to a BCS bowl this year and prove a point. they agreed to this system and have to accept the results.

also it was miami who shared the title with washington in 1991, not colorado.

Huge 10-09-2004 09:35 PM

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the only thing that you can do is win the games that are on your schedule and USC didn't. once you lose a game your fate to left to the votersand the formula, who is to say that USC was better than OU or vice versa.
LSU and Oklahoma didn't win all the games on their schedule either (LSU lost at home to Florida...OU lost to KSU in the Big12 championship game). I thought LSU deserved their share last year (mainly because I got tired of listening to USC homers on internet message boards talk about how they deserved it more). But all 3 teams went into the final week with one loss.

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if they are so mad then don't accept a bid to a BCS bowl this year and prove a point. they agreed to this system and have to accept the results.
They threw a tantrum about not getting invited to the BCS title game. They accepted their alternative (Rose Bowl) because it was the best available option as well as the best way to prove they should've been in the BCS title game. Some would say this strategy paid off in a big way because the AP writers gave their share of the MNC to the Trojans.

But if anybody could point out another team that has turned down a BCS bowl invite when they weren't invited to the BCS Championship game I'd really like to see it.

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also it was miami who shared the title with washington in 1991, not colorado.
You're right...my bad. It was Colorado/Georgia Tech the year before Miami/Washington.

TexansCanes 10-10-2004 01:57 AM

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LSU and Oklahoma didn't win all the games on their schedule either (LSU lost at home to Florida...OU lost to KSU in the Big12 championship game). I thought LSU deserved their share last year (mainly because I got tired of listening to USC homers on internet message boards talk about how they deserved it more). But all 3 teams went into the final week with one loss.
thats what i mean by once you lose you leave your fate in the hands of the pollsters and the formula.

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They threw a tantrum about not getting invited to the BCS title game. They accepted their alternative (Rose Bowl) because it was the best available option as well as the best way to prove they should've been in the BCS title game. Some would say this strategy paid off in a big way because the AP writers gave their share of the MNC to the Trojans.
if they were so mad then they should have done something about it, not just throw and tantrum and print up t-shirts.

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But if anybody could point out another team that has turned down a BCS bowl invite when they weren't invited to the BCS Championship game I'd really like to see it.
i know no one has ever done this, it was used as an example, but if they did then i would have a lot of respect for them. also no college would deny a bcs bowl because of all the money they would lose.


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