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aj. 08-03-2004 09:06 PM

Tacks lose Sirmon
 
So says ESPN

blockhead83 08-03-2004 09:14 PM

Too bad about Sirmon, never like to see a player injured. The Titans are going to be a different team this year, they lost alot of starters and this will probably only make matters worse. Alot of analysts are still predicting the Titans to end up in 2nd behind the Colts, but with all the turn over in personnel I think it's going to make for an interesting battle for 2nd.

titan21 08-05-2004 04:11 AM

we really didnt lose much that hurt us, however even if we had lost nothing i think the texans proved last season that they are no easy team to beat, and with good blocking carr will make a great qb... our running game will be stronger without eddie, kearse never really played for us because he was always injured, wycheck was injured most of last season also, so were coming back with most of the same squad...the texans will improve this season no doubt about that and i do see them finishing better than the jags...

aj. 08-05-2004 06:50 AM

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we really didnt lose much that hurt us
I guess we will find that out as the year progresses.

Kearse had 14 starts for you guys last year. I remember being all over the field when the Texans played in Nashville last year. Then there's some guy named Robaire Smith. Hall is good but your quality depth just got a lot shallower with all the rooks backing up on the DL. One or more may come through for you. Then there's Sirmon who was your starting OLB. I wouldn't say your running game got stronger without Eddie but between Brown and Smith, they should be able to match his production with no problem. Smith has never been a vocal leader (as was Eddie) so there's a few intangibles at work there as well.

Lucky 08-05-2004 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by titan21
we really didnt lose much that hurt us...

On the surface, I agree. Boiman was ready to challenge Sirmon for a starting spot and is a better pass rusher. The difference is that when an OLB goes down with an injury during the season, the replacement is now a rookie 5th round draft pick. Free agency has ravaged the depth of the Titans. If the Titans can't keep their regulars on the field for that brutal 3 game division road trip in late Nov.- early Dec. (@ Jax, @Hou, @IND), they may be in the unfamiliar position of watching the playoffs on the tube.

infantrycak 08-05-2004 09:07 AM

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we really didnt lose much that hurt us
Just to weigh in a little more on the same quote--Fisher will do a great job of minimizing the damage, but losing 3 of the starting front 7 from last year, one of whom was the undisputed best of the front 7, and none intentionally so they could be upgraded has to hurt the defense more than minimally even if everyone stays healthy and could turn into an absolute disaster if one of the replacements goes down. I doubt Tennessee matches its league best 27.7% 3rd down conversion rate allowed this year.

titan21 08-06-2004 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky
On the surface, I agree. Boiman was ready to challenge Sirmon for a starting spot and is a better pass rusher. The difference is that when an OLB goes down with an injury during the season, the replacement is now a rookie 5th round draft pick. Free agency has ravaged the depth of the Titans. If the Titans can't keep their regulars on the field for that brutal 3 game division road trip in late Nov.- early Dec. (@ Jax, @Hou, @IND), they may be in the unfamiliar position of watching the playoffs on the tube.

yes very true. but injuries will kill any teams season. i just say were not any worse off than we were last season, pending injuries which i should have mentioned... good luck this season, i think you guys will be much improved

titan21 08-06-2004 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aj.
I guess we will find that out as the year progresses.

Kearse had 14 starts for you guys last year. I remember being all over the field when the Texans played in Nashville last year. Then there's some guy named Robaire Smith. Hall is good but your quality depth just got a lot shallower with all the rooks backing up on the DL. One or more may come through for you. Then there's Sirmon who was your starting OLB. I wouldn't say your running game got stronger without Eddie but between Brown and Smith, they should be able to match his production with no problem. Smith has never been a vocal leader (as was Eddie) so there's a few intangibles at work there as well.

kearse had 9 1/2 sacks last season, good but replaceable..as for smith i dont agree he is a loss at all...look at it, every year well let a good dt go fisk, thorton, ford to name a few and we always find replacing them fairly easily.. although i think robaire is a great dt i think in our system he will be replaced fairly easy. as far as kearse goes, i would be lying if i said he is no loss, however we have played a whole season and parts of two others without him and done great...kevin carter is going in the middle to replace smith, i would say that is an excellent replacement. eddies 3.3 ypc is not worth keeping him around regardless of leadership, their are plenty of veterans that can take over that leadership role.

swisher 08-06-2004 08:14 AM

This is how all Titan fans seem to think. They justify losing players by saying they really were not that good anyway. I'm sure if McNair broke his leg they would all say Volek was a better QB anyway because they came back and beat Atlanta with him.

The Titans have had 5 good to great seasons in a row. Even the non-playoff season was not bad. So it really must feek like that when you lose quality that they will just find someone else to replace him. Eventually that doesn't happen. I just wonder how Titan fans will handle a couple of losing seasons in a row. They have been some pretty blessed NFL fans...it doesn't work that way forever.

titan21 08-07-2004 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swisher
This is how all Titan fans seem to think. They justify losing players by saying they really were not that good anyway. I'm sure if McNair broke his leg they would all say Volek was a better QB anyway because they came back and beat Atlanta with him.

The Titans have had 5 good to great seasons in a row. Even the non-playoff season was not bad. So it really must feek like that when you lose quality that they will just find someone else to replace him. Eventually that doesn't happen. I just wonder how Titan fans will handle a couple of losing seasons in a row. They have been some pretty blessed NFL fans...it doesn't work that way forever.

I dont say they werent all that good smith is a great player and will do good for you, kearse is good when healthy...wycheck was one of the greatest te ever.the rest are no loss to me. i do think we did a great job replacing them as weve done in the past...i dont think our salary cap woes will hit us until next season. i am not one of those unrealistic titans fans that thinks chirs brown will be the best running back ever, but i do think he can easily beat out what george did for us last year...i understand at some point we will have to rebuild..probably next year because the salary cap is really going to eat us up, but i think we will be fine this year/hope we will be fine

titan21 08-07-2004 12:32 AM

how is carr and the o-line looking in camp up to this point?

texasguy346 08-07-2004 12:48 AM

The O-Line is looking pretty good so far from what I've heard. Looks to be pretty massive too. Only one lineman on the roster is under 300 Lbs. Carr has been pretty impressive too. But I think Andre Johnson has looked the best after spending a lot of the offseason working on his catching. He's going to be a powerful weapon for the Texans this year. Just curious how have the rookie D-Linemen looked for the Titans? I have to admit that Schobel was one of the most interesting prospect I thought they had, but I heard he went out with a broken foot.

TEXANS84 08-07-2004 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by texasguy346
Just curious how have the rookie D-Linemen looked for the Titans?

Your answer is here...its a high bandwith link to the Titans D line against the Falcons O-line in practice...watch out for #96 though...looks pretty tough, Atkins I think is his name. Also a good fight halfway through the video.

Titans D-Line

keyfro 08-07-2004 08:07 PM

with all the changes on their team they will be a new team...they won't make the playoffs this season due to the changes and the fact that their team isn't better this season it's way worse...you can't tell me that the changes on both lines won't make a difference...let alone they are replacing proven vets with rookies...it never works

titan21 08-08-2004 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by texasguy346
The O-Line is looking pretty good so far from what I've heard. Looks to be pretty massive too. Only one lineman on the roster is under 300 Lbs. Carr has been pretty impressive too. But I think Andre Johnson has looked the best after spending a lot of the offseason working on his catching. He's going to be a powerful weapon for the Texans this year. Just curious how have the rookie D-Linemen looked for the Titans? I have to admit that Schobel was one of the most interesting prospect I thought they had, but I heard he went out with a broken foot.

the d-line isnt looking that impressive yet to be honest...the inside is doing fine but i see some problems on the outside, hopefully we will get it worked out..thanks for the info.

titan21 08-08-2004 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by keyfro
with all the changes on their team they will be a new team...they won't make the playoffs this season due to the changes and the fact that their team isn't better this season it's way worse...you can't tell me that the changes on both lines won't make a difference...let alone they are replacing proven vets with rookies...it never works


we didnt make changes on both lines we are returning all of our o-line. we will either no or one rookie starting pending on if any of the rookie de's can snag the last spot...please give accurate detail on what exactly we have lost and who we are replacing with who. if you dont know you should ask instead of assume...

texasguy346 08-08-2004 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TEXAN84
Your answer is here...its a high bandwith link to the Titans D line against the Falcons O-line in practice...watch out for #96 though...looks pretty tough, Atkins I think is his name. Also a good fight halfway through the video.

Titans D-Line

Thanks for the video clip. Number 96 and 99 both looked pretty stout on the inside. As for the Falcons, both number 70 and 77 looked like pretty good tackles. Both pretty much smothered Hall, and any other DE they faced. Anyone happen to know who any of these guys are?


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