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Blake 05-04-2004 10:40 AM

The NEW AND IMPROVED DETRIOT LIONS!!!
 
Although I like how they went into the draft, and got some great deals, I dont think it will be this year, or even next year, before they start gellin.

So dont think they are going to come out and start lighting people up this year.

V Man 05-04-2004 10:58 AM

The Lions have the weapons, but still don't have the line to give Joey the time to get them the ball. And the Defense is still questionable. But they should have a few big and exciting plays. :spot:

SBTexans08 05-04-2004 11:21 AM

The Lions upgraded much this off-season...a whole lot but I too see them not doing much better. I'd give them 6-7 wins. I wouldn't be surprised if they got more though. That division won't let them slip into the playoffs just yet though. The bears will give them a hard time, Packers and Vikings go without saying...

keyfro 05-04-2004 11:45 AM

detriot had in my opinion the second best draft this year next to arizona...i give arizona the edge on this one due to the fact they have had so many questionable drafts in the past and to see green walk in and change that imidiately is just good to see...but detriot got in my opinion the best back in this draft in kevin jones....don't worry about the fumbling...that can be fixed...roy and charlie will be the next holt and bruce for years to come...they helped their o-line in FA by getting woody who'll be good for them...and bryant was another solid pick up...all in all i'll give them a 7-9 record this year...and most importantly they will not be picking in the top 10 in next years draft

Porky 05-04-2004 01:54 PM

I thought the Lions had the best draft this year, and last year they had a very good draft as well. Add to that their FA acquistions, and I could see them competing for a division crown, although right now, I would say the Vikes are the favorite. I will give them an 8-8 record. Alot depends on Harrington. But, for the first time in like.....FOREVER.....the Lions are on the ascent, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them in the playoffs by next year.

Fiddy 05-04-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by V Man
The Lions have the weapons, but still don't have the line to give Joey the time to get them the ball.

This may sound stupid, but I think Harrington has taken more hits then Carr, although Carr has more sacks taken. In the games I saw, Harrington would throw and duck.

beerlover 05-04-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddy
This may sound stupid, but I think Harrington has taken more hits then Carr, although Carr has more sacks taken. In the games I saw, Harrington would throw and duck.

Thats what Ducks do with the exception of Dan Fouts who stood in there and continually had his bell rung. Everybody thinks the Lions had a great draft but yet they passed on the player they should have taken Kellen Winslow, instead they traded him for a 2nd round pick & Roy Williams.

The only thing that makes some sense to me about why they did this was uncertainty with Rogers health. They just threw a whole lot of money at the WR position when what they needed was a blocking, intermediate playmaking target like Winslow, love him or hate him I guess it made too much sense for Detroit so they got cute.

IMO Harrington will always be a Duck, a sitting Duck as long as Detroit does not address basics like blocking, salary cap managemnet and players that complement one another. At least the Texans got their #1 & #2 players, that should improve the system, compliment one another and fit within the salary cap of one top 10 WR.

One more thing for the record New England had the best draft :hehe:

Fiddy 05-04-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover
Thats what Ducks do with the exception of Dan Fouts who stood in there and continually had his bell rung. Everybody thinks the Lions had a great draft but yet they passed on the player they should have taken Kellen Winslow, instead they traded him for a 2nd round pick & Roy Williams.

And that second round pick helped them get Kevin Jones. I totally disagree that they should have taken Winslow. If they werent offered the 2nd maybe then they should have taken him. But you get a 2nd round pick and Kevin Jones just to move down one spot for the best WR in the draft. (Every other team had Roy Williams rated ahead of Fitz, except the Cards)

Blake 05-04-2004 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddy
But you get a 2nd round pick and Kevin Jones just to move down one spot for the best WR in the draft. (Every other team had Roy Williams rated ahead of Fitz, except the Cards)

Did all 32 teams give you a peek at their scorecards?

Didnt think so.

You could have said, they moved down one spot and got one of the top WR in this years draft.

:twocents:

Fiddy 05-04-2004 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DC_ROCK
Did all 32 teams give you a peek at their scorecards?

Didnt think so.

You could have said, they moved down one spot and got one of the top WR in this years draft.

:twocents:

I was basing that on the fact that I have read and heard (from people like John McClain) a lot (plus a bias feeling) that Roy Williams was higher the Fitz. But yeah I could have said "one of the top," but my feeling is that Roy Williams was better. Imagine Roy Williams have a decent QB last year?

Blake 05-04-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddy
Imagine Roy Williams have a decent QB last year?

He would have been unstopable.

Lucky 05-04-2004 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Porky
I thought the Lions had the best draft this year...

I donít see the Lions draft as appreciably better than the Texansí was. Both teams picked up what should be 2 immediate starters and both teams went for good athletes who can provide depth. Is the Lion draft rated so high due to their selection of guys who touch the ball? Or is it because they took a local fan favorite? For this team, I know Iím much happier with the players the Texans took than if they had what the Lions hauled in. Offense is exciting, but itís defense that wins championships. And you can quote me on that. ;)

I believe the Texans offense will be on a par with the Lions offense this year. If healthy, the defense will be head & shoulders above Detroitís. I question the championship caliber of the FAís the Lions have brought in to shore up the defense. I have no doubt that at the end of the season, the Texans will be a better football team than the Lions.

keyfro 05-04-2004 06:01 PM

still just waiting with anticipation for the lions vs texans game...ever since the 2002 draft i think we've all been waiting to see who will win the first battle between harrington and carr

Blake 05-04-2004 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keyfro
still just waiting with anticipation for the lions vs texans game...ever since the 2002 draft i think we've all been waiting to see who will win the first battle between harrington and carr

I may be a bit biased. But I think Carr was the better QB pick of 2002. I dont think Harrington has what it takes. I give this one to Carr and the Texans. I think they will be a more balanced team.

Fiddy 05-04-2004 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keyfro
still just waiting with anticipation for the lions vs texans game...ever since the 2002 draft i think we've all been waiting to see who will win the first battle between harrington and carr

and since last year, I have been waiting for Carr and Johnson vs. Harrington and Rogers (it might turn into Harrington and Williams)

BuffSoldier 05-04-2004 06:20 PM

Great young talent on offense, and seasoned vets on D. When you think of it, it kinda sounds like us. If our picks and theirs live up to their potential, the Texans and Lions could be the teams to beat in a couple of years. :coolb:

BuffSoldier 05-04-2004 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddy
Imagine Roy Williams have a decent QB last year?

Vince did very good to me. The only thing is that the offensive coordinator would wouldnt let him throw the ball. They made him run too much.

Fiddy 05-04-2004 06:52 PM

Young couldnt throw the ball last year, thats why against Texas Tech on the game winning drive Mock was in. Because he was the better thrower and wouldnt tuck it and run whenever he got the chance.

BigTex 05-05-2004 07:49 AM

Same here, I cannot belive they didn't play last year. . . do they play this year? I hope so I haven't looked at the schedule yet I just know a few of them such as @ Kansas City or GreenBay on sunday night football. Well back to the point I would like to see Detriot vs. Houston now that both teams have some really potential

DoCt3rJ 05-05-2004 10:32 AM

I can't wait for the lions/texans game. Dunta is gonna have to cover Roy, and Glenn is gonna have to cover Rogers....then the slot is gonna have to cover Tai Streets, whewwww. I think we'll win though cause I think we'll be having pressure on Harrington all day where he barely gets any balls out to Roy/Charles.


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