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Playoffs 06-13-2014 01:26 PM

Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
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J-Jo and Brooks Reed had sports hernia surgery in Philadelphia in the past. Now Clowney has gone there for it. J-Joe told me it’s one of best

O’Brien says Clowney has been sent to Philadelphia for sports hernia surgery. Will be ready for training camp. #Texans
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
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O'Brien says that Clowney was sent to Philadelphia for evaluation. Team felt surgery was the best option for him. #Texans

Bill O'Brien says Clowney had an issue with his groin. Had sports hernia surgery yesterday. Will be back for training camp.
Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
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#Texans' O'Brien said team decided to take care of Clowney's groin issue now. Hadn't been troubling him long. Expects him in camp. #NFL
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
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Johnathan Joseph had sports hernias a couple years ago that he waited to treat. It's usually better to surgically repair it quickly. #Texans

kingtexan 06-13-2014 01:28 PM

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Ouch ...

badboy 06-13-2014 01:29 PM

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Don't stop taking the painkillers too early.

honored82 06-13-2014 01:37 PM

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Does this surgery really have such a small recovery time ?

DX-TEX 06-13-2014 01:38 PM

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I cant WAIT for Cloaks rainbows and lollipops diagnosis.:gun:

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PDS ‏@PatDStat 10m
J.J. Watt suffered an hyper extended knee yesterday at practice. Held out today. #Texans

Great! Awesome! let the March for Mariotta begin!!

badboy 06-13-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by honored82 (Post 2350502)
Does this surgery really have such a small recovery time ?

My bi-laterals done April 4th and were still tender until later in May. I was walking but nothing like he will be doing.

cland 06-13-2014 02:19 PM

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Damnit Watt! Doing squats while holding a Mack Truck in each hand may work for you, but you should know Clowney needs to work up to that level.

DX-TEX 06-13-2014 02:23 PM

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Clowneys groin, Watts knee and newton named starter.....

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-to-Crying.gif

Todays Texans emotions in gif form.

Playoffs 06-13-2014 02:24 PM

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You don't read about Blake Bortles having hernia problems... just saying.


IDEXAN 06-13-2014 02:41 PM

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Jez, between this new announcement on JD and Quesenberry's diagnosis of lymphoma just a couple days ago, this is not an auspicious start to the 2014 season.

CloakNNNdagger 06-13-2014 04:07 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
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Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2350503)
I cant WAIT for Cloaks rainbows and lollipops diagnosis.:gun:



Great! Awesome! let the March for Mariotta begin!!

It is unlikely that Clowney has been dealing with this since only the draft. Even though there may be an acute incident that leads to this condition, it is not something that is immediately recognized. Seldom is surgery performed short of ~6 weeks of conservative treatment. Theoretically, athletes can return to play in as little as 4-6 weeks. However, it tends to be closer to 8-10 weeks. The good news is that studies have shown that ~95% of athletes will be able to return to their pre-injury performance level. There are several studies that have shown that to attain this level, it will typically take anywhere from 3 to 6 months. Many surgeons will perform a contralateral (opposite) re-inforcement in athletes, even if there is no positive findings on this side, since later in 10% of cases, players go on develop one on that side. Some surgeons are critical of this approach because it increases the risks of the surgery theoretically x 2. Johnathan Joseph underwent bilateral surgeries also by Dr. William Meyers in Philadelphia. Since this surgery, Joseph has apparently not regained his pre-injury performance for whatever reason. On the other hand, Brooks Reed had bilateral repair, again by Dr. Meyers, and seems to have regained his pre-injury performance level.

Playoffs 06-13-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2350536)
...studies have shown that ~95% of athletes will be able to return to their pre-injury performance level.

:clap:

Texian 06-13-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2350515)
You don't read about Blake Bortles having hernia problems... just saying.


MSR

CloakNNNdagger 06-13-2014 04:28 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
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Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2350503)
I cant WAIT for Cloaks rainbows and lollipops diagnosis.:gun:

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PDS ‏@PatDStat 10m
J.J. Watt suffered an hyper extended knee yesterday at practice. Held out today. #Texans

Great! Awesome! let the March for Mariotta begin!!


This injury can be caused during contact or non-contact or by an already present posterior collateral ligament (PCL) or meniscus or even ACL injury. It can also notoriously cause PCL and ACL tears (as well as meniscus damage). Studies have shown that knee hyperextensions can increase the potential risk for ACl tears by 5 times. The extent of the hyperextension will determine the recovery. Mild injury may only take several weeks. Significant collateral damage of structures may require surgery. An MRI will be performed to determine if Watt has sustained a minor sprain or a major tear. Only then is it likely that we will be able to determine his probable time of return. Hopefully this will have only been a small bump in the road for the big man.

EllisUnit 06-13-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2350542)
This injury can be caused during contact or non-contact or by an already present posterior collateral ligament (PCL) or meniscus or even ACL injury. It can also notoriously cause PCL and ACL tears (as well as meniscus damage). Studies have shown that knee hyperextensions can increase the potential risk for ACl tears by 5 times. The extent of the hyperextension will determine the recovery. Mild injury may only take several weeks. Significant collateral damage of structures may require surgery. An MRI will be performed to determine if Watt has sustained a minor sprain or a major tear. Only then is it likely that we will be able to determine his probable time of return. Hopefully this will have only been a small bump in the road for the big man.

My brother played center and had this happen to his knee, he had a partial PCL tear and his recovery time was 6 months to fully recover. Hopefully no tears occured.

Lambert 06-13-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2350536)
It is unlikely that Clowney has been dealing with this since only the draft. Even though there may be an acute incident that leads to this condition, it is not something that is immediately recognized. Seldom is surgery performed short of ~6 weeks of conservative treatment. Theoretically, athletes can return to play in as little as 4-6 weeks. However, it tends to be closer to 8-10 weeks. The good news is that studies have shown that ~95% of athletes will be able to return to their pre-injury performance level. There are several studies that have shown that to attain this level, it will typically take anywhere from 3 to 6 months. Many surgeons will perform a contralateral (opposite) re-inforcement in athletes, even if there is no positive findings on this side, since later in 10% of cases, players go on develop one on that side. Some surgeons are critical of this approach because it increases the risks of the surgery theoretically x 2. Johnathan Joseph underwent bilateral surgeries also by Dr. William Meyers in Philadelphia. Since this surgery, Joseph has apparently not regained his pre-injury performance for whatever reason. On the other hand, Brooks Reed had bilateral repair, again by Dr. Meyers, and seems to have regained his pre-injury performance level.

From what I read at the time, I don't think Brooks had bilateral surgery, one side only.

CloakNNNdagger 06-13-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambert (Post 2350573)
From what I read at the time, I don't think Brooks had bilateral surgery, one side only.

Going back, you're correct. I stand corrected. Although my source related that there was debate over performing a bilateral "repair." (rep on the way)

Hottoddie 06-13-2014 06:34 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2350542)
This injury can be caused during contact or non-contact or by an already present posterior collateral ligament (PCL) or meniscus or even ACL injury. It can also notoriously cause PCL and ACL tears (as well as meniscus damage). Studies have shown that knee hyperextensions can increase the potential risk for ACl tears by 5 times. The extent of the hyperextension will determine the recovery. Mild injury may only take several weeks. Significant collateral damage of structures may require surgery. An MRI will be performed to determine if Watt has sustained a minor sprain or a major tear. Only then is it likely that we will be able to determine his probable time of return. Hopefully this will have only been a small bump in the road for the big man.

Doc,

STOP IT!! You're starting to scare me. Losing JJ for any amount of time would be devastating to my well being. :scare:

Marshall 06-13-2014 06:44 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2350515)
You don't read about Blake Bortles having hernia problems... just saying.


I've honestly not heard ANYTHING about Blake Bortles so that's no surprise.

Lambert 06-13-2014 06:50 PM

Re: Clowney had sports hernia surgery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2350542)
This injury can be caused during contact or non-contact or by an already present posterior collateral ligament (PCL) or meniscus or even ACL injury. It can also notoriously cause PCL and ACL tears (as well as meniscus damage). Studies have shown that knee hyperextensions can increase the potential risk for ACl tears by 5 times. The extent of the hyperextension will determine the recovery. Mild injury may only take several weeks. Significant collateral damage of structures may require surgery. An MRI will be performed to determine if Watt has sustained a minor sprain or a major tear. Only then is it likely that we will be able to determine his probable time of return. Hopefully this will have only been a small bump in the road for the big man.

On a better note, I have seen college players go down with a hyperextended knee---very painfull---go to the sidelines for a series and come back in the game seemingly ready to go.


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