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thunderkyss 05-25-2014 12:21 AM

Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Which would you pick & why?

Peterson kicked off the debate saying:
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"I don't want to get in a debate as far as stats that he has and things like that," Peterson said during an interview on KMVP-FM. "Obviously his job is definitely much easier than mine. But if you look at their scheme and at our scheme, he's a Cover 3 corner. Period.

"A lot of guys say he's a shutdown corner. But if you look at film and guys who understand the game, go back and look at film and see how his defense is. I believe that if you put him in our system, I don't believe he'll be able to last, honestly. Because I actually do much more than he is (doing)."
What do you think, who's the better corner?

Ryan 05-25-2014 01:50 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
I like Patrick Peterson for the versatility. Maybe it's just me but I don't see Sherman shutting down premiere WRs like Revis does, but he's definitely an elite at his job.

NastyNate 05-25-2014 01:53 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2344469)
Which would you pick & why?

Peterson kicked off the debate saying:


What do you think, who's the better corner?

Sherman is the better corner, and it ain't that close.

NastyNate 05-25-2014 01:55 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
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Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 2344471)
I like Patrick Peterson for the versatility. Maybe it's just me but I don't see Sherman shutting down premiere WRs like Revis does, but he's definitely an elite at his job.

Different utilization. Sherman mostly plays left defensive side of the field, whereas Peterson usually follows the #1. Look at how many redzone td's sherman gave up last year vs peterson. Stats aren't the whole story, but they're a lot of it.

infantrycak 05-25-2014 06:54 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Peterson, and it ain't that close.

thunderkyss 05-25-2014 07:04 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2344479)
Peterson, and it ain't that close.

Agreed.

Like Namdi, you put him in another system & Sherman will look average at best. It's a good thing for Sherman that the 'hawks also locked up Earl Thomas.


& Sherman's a little loud for my taste.

BigBull 05-25-2014 07:12 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
I believe Sherman is very good, but I don't think it's even a competition. Peterson goes up against Jones, Megatron, AJ, Green, and on and on while Sherman goes up against the second tier guys. To me it's Peterson all day every day. The stats may say Sherman, but the stats don't tell the whole story. If given the choice I want a cb that can lock down the other teams #1 wr as much as a #1 can be locked down that is.

Scooter 05-25-2014 01:36 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
most definitely peterson.

sherman's in the perfect situation and enjoying what that brings. he's got a killer pass rush, 2 best in class safeties, linebackers underneath who can cover, and he playes one side even if there's not a receiver there. really good cornerback certainly, especially if the ref's swallow their whistles. he's not the complete player that peterson is though.

thunderkyss 05-25-2014 06:02 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Reading Peterson's comments got me to thinking about how we looked at Kj as a rookie. Comparing him to Devin McCourty who had a great rookie year. 76Texan correctly identified different coaching schemes & the help that was dedicated to McCourty (that allowed him to play with confidence) where we left Kj on an island.

Pretty much the same thing. As long as Seattle can afford to play their style, Sherman is going to be fine & worth every penny. But if I'm building a team, I'd rather have Peterson.

kiwitexansfan 05-25-2014 06:08 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Without reference to scheme, I'd take Peterson everytime.

Goatcheese 05-25-2014 07:16 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Until the refs start calling pass interference, I'd take Sherman mauling receivers all the way down the field every time.

Playoffs 05-25-2014 08:12 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
A different and very thorough take, based on every qualifying CB play in 2013...

same writer/process/info, but 3 different posting formats (no idea why):

Patrick Peterson: The Numbers, The Tape, The Verdict 2014

Richard Sherman: The Numbers, The Tape, The Verdict 2014

Joe Haden: Breaking Down the High-Priced Cornerback's 2013 Season

badboy 05-25-2014 10:08 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
For Texans and that is how I look at players, I want Peterson.

NastyNate 05-25-2014 11:05 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
I'd rather have Sherman for many reasons, mainly because he's not going to give up the TD, and he's likely to intercept quite a few as well. Peterson seems to be less effective in the red zone, and that's where football games are won or lost. Points are the only stat I truly care about.

Double Barrel 05-26-2014 11:23 AM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 2344599)
Until the refs start calling pass interference, I'd take Sherman mauling receivers all the way down the field every time.

This is my take, as well. I think Peterson is probably a better pure corner, but Sherman knows how to push the boundaries of the way refs call games these days, and his style of play and mind games get into WRs heads. Plus, dude is a leader and as long as his performance can back up his mouth, it inspires his teammates and fans. He's fun to watch.

Neither are shutdown corners, though, if Deion Sanders is the standard by which we judge it.

Lucky 05-26-2014 03:28 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Peterson is the superior athlete. Sherman has better instincts for the position. Sherman will never be the athlete that Peterson is. Peterson could/should develop better instincts and close the gap on Sherman. When that happens, I'll take Peterson. Until then, I'll take Sherman.

kingtexan 05-26-2014 04:00 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Peterson ... no brainer.

Playoffs 05-27-2014 07:48 PM

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NFL's most overrated players

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Patrick Peterson, Arizona Cardinals, No. 58
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Peterson has all the physical talent in the world and uses it well for the most part, but he hasn't done it on a weekly basis like some of league's other top cornerbacks. Overall, Peterson ranked 15th among cornerbacks with a plus-5.9 coverage grade, but he did so while tracking the opposition's top wide receiver 55 percent of the time.

His assignment may be more difficult than some of the league's other corners, but he has yet to perform at a level that puts him into the top echelon at the position. He surrendered seven touchdowns into his coverage -- tying for third most in the league -- while his 1.00 yards/cover snap tied for 15th. Using interception numbers to judge a cornerback may be even worse than using tackles for a linebacker, but Peterson got his hands on only nine passes (three intercepted, six passes defensed), a number you would expect to be a little higher for a top cornerback that was targeted 90 times.

Peterson's week-to-week consistency issues, as he finished seven games with negative coverage grades, including a disastrous Week 15 performance that saw him surrender nine catches on 10 targets for 146 yards, most of which came at the hands of Tennessee Titans wide receiver Kendall Wright. While we're certainly not going to hold one game against a player, these are the types of performances that must be avoided if Peterson is going to take the next step to rank among the best cornerbacks in the league. Until then, he's a very good player who takes on assignments of above-average difficulty on a weekly basis.

eriadoc 05-27-2014 08:20 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
Peterson gave up 2 TDs to AJ when they played the Texans. Sherman didn't do that. ;)

Thorn 05-27-2014 08:22 PM

Re: Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman?
 
LOL. I don't even know who those two are.


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